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YAYY!! SGFC done!
    #19236545 - 12/06/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So I finally got what I needed to turn this plastic box into the awesome fruiting chamber I've always wanted haha. Any comments will be appreciated.



Also a few questions and concerns:

1) my room tends to get cold, and I was told any unnaturally moving air (mini heater thing i have) isn't too good. On the right of the pics I have a tall jar with hot water in it to help keep the terrarium's temp up. Would this cause any problems, or is it okay?

2) 4in of perlite, and the whole terrarium is about 2in off the towel. Is this enough space for FAE or do I have to raise it higher for the air to be able to pass through?

3) I know the tub is a little big, but I expect to have more cakes at a time in the future. How is their spacing? I read somewhere that they should be really close and in an appropriately sized tub.. But is what I have okay, even if not perfect?

4) lastly, as you can see, my lid is dark. It is quite transparent, but not fully clear.. Will this mess up the amount of lite they receive or should it be okay?

Thanks for your time in reading my post, and any info you may have. Also I would love to achieve perfect conditions for my babies, but my main concern is whether I am doing someone that may harm them at all.


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Re: YAYY!! SHFC done! [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #19236552 - 12/06/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

you made a spelling mistake in your title, as long as it's a small heater thats not giving off too much current i'd say it would be fine in your room, other then that your looking to be on track


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Re: YAYY!! SHFC done! [Re: cronicr]
    #19236624 - 12/06/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Wow hahaha thanks for that.. didn't notice, then I looked at it and still didn't notice, I though you were just messing with me lmao. I fixed it now :tongue: (SHFC to SGFC)

And thanks. Could the jar work too though? In case I'm not home I could just stick a warm jar in for the day. Or would it cause too much humidity in one corner and not enough in the rest..?


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Re: YAYY!! SHFC done! [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #19237925 - 12/06/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Looks good man. I wouldn't worry too much about light. Might effect the overall amount or perhaps take a little longer, but the first SGFC I ever made was out of a completely grey (non-transparent) box, and I still got roughly 3.5 grams (dry) per jar (after two flushes.) As long as you can see the mushrooms, they're getting enough light.

Looks nice though :smile: did you end up buying a drill or borrowing?


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Re: YAYY!! SHFC done! [Re: Ophi]
    #19238029 - 12/06/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Ophi said:
Looks good man.



It is a great looking fruiting chamber!  I remember the first time I made a SGFC.  After drilling one side, I got pissed off and threw the whole thing away.  Technically I never made one, just intended to.  A proper SGFC will certainly offer a lifetime of service....I didn't have the patience to make one fully lol.

As for temps, even in cooler temps these types of mushrooms will fruit, however much more slow.  IIRC swings in temps are worse than consistent temps.  I have had great luck with temps in the low to mid 60s....yes slow, but very much a working plan!

I don't know if a jar full of hot water is advisable to have in a fruiting chamber.  I think you would do better to heat the room as best you can.  They make oil filled radiant heaters which do a great job without a fan.  I picked up one the other week and paid $40 for it....only to find out that even though it is small, it puts off more heat than necessary.  Had I known, Id have found a smaller, more cost effective model.

Lighting should be sufficient, as others have pointed out.  Indirect natural sunlight is perfect!  You could also look into getting a 6500k "Sun" light if you feel that they are simply not getting enough of that.  More than a few members here get the cheapo clamp on lights with the swivel necks and use them to add some sunshine.  The Kelvin rating of the bulb is important.  5000k-6700k should provide a good full spectrum. 

You are right on track for a firsthand educational experience!


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Re: YAYY!! SHFC done! [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #19238045 - 12/06/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How cold are you talking OP? Below 65F? Because 65F is fine. I suspect you could even get away with 60F as long as it wasn't for the whole day. You might see slower growth and dense meaty fruits with cooler temps, but a lot of people prefer that anyway.

If you do need to heat, you heat the room, not the chamber, so your space heater would be fine, just don't have it right next to the SGFC.


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Re: YAYY!! SGFC done! [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #19238163 - 12/06/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Dirtygoat said:
So I finally got what I needed to turn this plastic box into the awesome fruiting chamber I've always wanted haha. Any comments will be appreciated.



Also a few questions and concerns:

1) my room tends to get cold, and I was told any unnaturally moving air (mini heater thing i have) isn't too good. On the right of the pics I have a tall jar with hot water in it to help keep the terrarium's temp up. Would this cause any problems, or is it okay?

2) 4in of perlite, and the whole terrarium is about 2in off the towel. Is this enough space for FAE or do I have to raise it higher for the air to be able to pass through?

3) I know the tub is a little big, but I expect to have more cakes at a time in the future. How is their spacing? I read somewhere that they should be really close and in an appropriately sized tub.. But is what I have okay, even if not perfect?

4) lastly, as you can see, my lid is dark. It is quite transparent, but not fully clear.. Will this mess up the amount of lite they receive or should it be okay?

Thanks for your time in reading my post, and any info you may have. Also I would love to achieve perfect conditions for my babies, but my main concern is whether I am doing someone that may harm them at all.




1. turn the heat down as it may cause your cakes and sgfc to dry out faster than usual. Having a fan for air circulation is good. But it shouldnt be pointed at teh FC. point it to the side. I have never heard of people putting a jar of water in the FC to raise temp. you may want to look into that. Seems like that would raise humidity more that it would affect temperature.

2. 2 inch off the towel should be good. Are you sure thats 4 inch of perlite. it dosent look like it

3. NEver heard that. I would prefer to put them as far apart as usual

4. The lid is fine. Most light is abosrbed through the sides. Just have your light source as close ot the sides of the FC as possible but make sure it is not so close that it causes the FC to heat up

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Re: YAYY!! SGFC done! [Re: Zulu The Most High]
    #19238234 - 12/06/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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1. turn the heat down as it may cause your cakes and sgfc to dry out faster than usual. Having a fan for air circulation is good. But it shouldnt be pointed at teh FC. point it to the side. I have never heard of people putting a jar of water in the FC to raise temp. you may want to look into that. Seems like that would raise humidity more that it would affect temperature.



:smbfacepalm: You should not run a fan in a room with a SGFC. A SGFC works off of a rooms natural air currents and the convection currents within the tub. Running a fan will dry it out.

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3. NEver heard that. I would prefer to put them as far apart as usual




You place the cakes close together to aid in the microclimate that they individually produce. Some of the best cake grows I ever saw on here had the cakes very close together.


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Re: YAYY!! SHFC done! [Re: Ophi]
    #19243283 - 12/08/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks everyone, you all replied too quick for me haha, I just got a chance to get on again :tongue:

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Looks good man. I wouldn't worry too much about light. Might effect the overall amount or perhaps take a little longer, but the first SGFC I ever made was out of a completely grey (non-transparent) box, and I still got roughly 3.5 grams (dry) per jar (after two flushes.) As long as you can see the mushrooms, they're getting enough light.

Looks nice though :smile: did you end up buying a drill or borrowing?




And yea I borrowed from a friend, but I bought the bit, he didn't have one. It was cheep though so not a problem. :grin:


Again, thanks everyone for good advice. I got a perfectly fitting box that covers my terrarium too (you can see in the pics that it is sitting on the box), so if I need to heat up my room, I cover the SGFC while the fan is on so there is no bad air on the FC.. I hope that helps it.. If anyone has any advice on how else I could keep up my terrarium's temp I would appreciate it. Thanks guys


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Re: YAYY!! SHFC done! [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #19243950 - 12/08/13 08:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I cover the SGFC while the fan is on so there is no bad air on the FC.. I hope that helps it.. If anyone has any advice on how else I could keep up my terrarium's temp I would appreciate it. Thanks guys



I wouldn't cover the FC at all, as it would defeat the purpose entirely.  Simply don't point the heater in the direction of the chamber.  Find an easy, comfortable temp that the heater does not have to be on 24/7 to maintain.  I personally COULDN'T wait for this winter for cultivation.  The fruits popped up in my mid-60s room last winter were nothing short of spectacular.  There are pros/cons to keeping a cultivation area slightly cooler. 

If you are running a heater in the room as the cakes that circulates air, it may simply require a bit more misting/fanning to make up for the evaporation.


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Re: YAYY!! SHFC done! [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #19244021 - 12/08/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Awesome, thanks.

I'm just jealous of everyone going innoc to harvest in like a month lol.. And I know at 72 is perfect temp for them to fruit quick...  I mean I know I'm still a huge noob, as this is my first ever grow lol, and I'm very happy everything at least worked out :grin: just being on this site hours a day really shows me how far I am from the pros hahaha.


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Re: YAYY!! SHFC done! [Re: Dirtygoat]
    #19244068 - 12/08/13 09:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Awesome, thanks.

I'm just jealous of everyone going innoc to harvest in like a month lol.. And I know at 72 is perfect temp for them to fruit quick...  I mean I know I'm still a huge noob, as this is my first ever grow lol, and I'm very happy everything at least worked out :grin: just being on this site hours a day really shows me how far I am from the pros hahaha.





The best advice I can give anyone is to move from cakes and needles. 

Your success and speed with a bit of agar and a "Still air box" helps step it to the next level.  The unfortunate thing is that a pressure cooker is needed.  This is a HUGE barrier for some users due to the cost and size.  Though you can get a perfectly good 16qt presto from online outlets for less than $80, it still takes up LOTS of space in the kitchen AND it becomes one of the most frequently used items.

I messed with cakes briefly, and based on my lifestyle I simply do not have the time during a normal week to keep up with the mist/fan schedule.  Some weeks I am home 3 nights or less.  Monotubs became the obvious choice.  Before I got a cooker, I ordered a few bags of grain spawn, grew them out and fruited successfully.....And then I was hooked. 

I had a number of mistakes with grain jars and moisture content.  It takes time, and expect pitfalls and failures.  Take your time, work clean, and make each calorie you burn for the hobby a productive one.

Monotubs like being in a room with air currents...fans are recommended.  Aside from that they are literally set and forget. 

I am no pro at all either.  But The biggest thing that you need is experience.  I may not be a "Pro", but I am comfortable with the methods that I use, and since I made the still air box and switched to agar, my contamination rate dropped to zero.


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Re: YAYY!! SHFC done! [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #19244399 - 12/08/13 10:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The best advice I can give anyone is to move from cakes and needles. 




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Though I am about to start an experimental cake grow with ms solution for the first time in years, kinda feeling nostalgic about it all :lmafo:


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