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fivepointhustla
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1st grow and its a monotub and I work! *DELETED*
#19235427 - 12/06/13 07:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't know about P.F. cakes. But bulk grain in a mono tub shouldn't need any fanning or misting if sub. has proper moisture level and tub is built correctly just my experience. Tried air pump tek once didn't work very well think it's more for cakes. I also use 50/50 casing.
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Dark76


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I imagine most of the people here work full time, so you're not in a unique situation.
The automation you describe is not advised. You can search the forums for various attempts and their ensuing discussions.
Monotubs are basically dial in, meaning that you don't have to tend to it multiple times per day.
I recommend taking a look at the following words of wisdom:
How Frank gets shit done, especially Dial in your monotubs like a boss.
Also, there's a great grow-along thread led by TbagTag that covers the inoculation of grains in a step-by-step fashion.
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Skinty
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fivepointhustla said: This is my 1st grow, I work full time and its a monotub. I ordered a syringe of B+ and spawn bags. So if what I read is true I have about 4 weeks to figure out the details of my monotub.
I work 5 days a week so I can't fan and mist during the day. I have been looking into a "no holes" tub and using an aquarium air pump with bubble tubes for the FAE. I see that ppl have had good luck with these.
Are there any insights to my thoughts or any changes I should make?
Not being funny but do you know what a "monotub" is - the way you have structured your post seems confused? If so just roll with that as it does not need fanning or misting. Forget about the no holes thing
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Re: 1st grow and its a monotub and I work! [Re: Skinty]
#19235597 - 12/06/13 09:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I work 12 hours a day do mono tubs and so yeah the mono is set and forget, on some tubs I fan and mist when I wake up and when I get home but it's really not necessary.
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fivepointhustla
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Re: 1st grow and its a monotub and I work! [Re: blueconfusion]
#19235727 - 12/06/13 10:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am slightly confused cause it seems that everybody does something different. I do understand what a monotub is. It seemed that ppl have problems with FAE and I figured with an air pump and no holes there would be plenty of fresh air to purge the tub and the humidity would stay high.
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bodhisatta 
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fivepointhustla said: I am slightly confused cause it seems that everybody does something different. I do understand what a monotub is. It seemed that ppl have problems with FAE and I figured with an air pump and no holes there would be plenty of fresh air to purge the tub and the humidity would stay high.
This will likely lower your RH dry out your sub and probably not provide as much FAE as it would if dialed in properly(click me)
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fivepointhustla
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Re: 1st grow and its a monotub and I work! [Re: bodhisatta]
#19235801 - 12/06/13 10:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Skinty
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fivepointhustla said: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18344596#18344596
he has the monotub no holes, with no probs
Why not follow his tek then 
The point is if you are short of time you want a quick simple no maintenance solution - WHICH IS A MONOTUB! I work AND I'm pretty lazy so monos are perfect for me...
BUT...if you want to waste a load of money, waste a lot of your valuable time AND get poorer results...then do what you are suggesting
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Re: 1st grow and its a monotub and I work! [Re: Skinty]
#19235930 - 12/06/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Skinty said:
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fivepointhustla said: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18344596#18344596
he has the monotub no holes, with no probs
Why not follow his tek then 
The point is if you are short of time you want a quick simple no maintenance solution - WHICH IS A MONOTUB! I work AND I'm pretty lazy so monos are perfect for me...
BUT...if you want to waste a load of money, waste a lot of your valuable time AND get poorer results...then do what you are suggesting 

also read the whole thread and all the replies telling the OP that he could have done it better for less work.
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Re: 1st grow and its a monotub and I work! [Re: bodhisatta]
#19235959 - 12/06/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Monotub should just be set and forget. Only fan and mist when you can visibly see that it needs it. Field capacity substrate and a properly constructed tub should ensure success without much maintenance.
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fivepointhustla
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Really I was worried about the polyfill and getting it right, but more oxygen is better right?
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Re: 1st grow and its a monotub and I work! [Re: bodhisatta]
#19236170 - 12/06/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said: dialed in properly(click me)
don't worry just get it right, also it's not more oxygen its more fresh air, oxygen is a small part of air.
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (12/06/13 11:46 AM)
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Just use your best judgement with the poly. I hear of people packing it so loose it almost falls out. Just make sure the holes are covered with it and you should be fine.
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fivepointhustla
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What works best for u guys...hole size and quantity?
I will be using 105qt clear tubs. I use the sterilized, hydrated fungi bags from mycopath. Then I will be using coir and verm for the substrate. I'm trying to get 8-16ozs from the tub so I have enough to hold my wife and I over between grows.
I've been copying this so far except for the monotub construction. https://www.icmag.com/modules/Journal/viewentry.php?journalid=472
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Pastywhyte
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Holes between 1-2 inches, stuff poly tight in bottom holes, loose in the top holes. Done.
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Re: 1st grow and its a monotub and I work! [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19236471 - 12/06/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Holes between 1-2 inches, stuff poly tight in bottom holes, loose in the top holes. Done.
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SpitballJedi
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fivepointhustla said: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18344596#18344596
he has the monotub no holes, with no probs
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18344596#18344596
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Mighty Bop said: ...but I was not really going for efficiency, low maintenance or even maximum yield.
All that is required is maintaining fresh air exchange, so yes, more maintenance is required. I see other people have tried it without success, so I'm not sure what's up with that. In the end, holes in tubs might actually be better but I'm more than happy with my results. I'm definitely not knocking holes in monotubs because obviously, they work.
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Dark76


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fivepointhustla said:
I've been copying this so far except for the monotub construction. https://www.icmag.com/modules/Journal/viewentry.php?journalid=472
I think you would find better advice to follow here at the Shroomery. ICMag for cannabis, for sure. Shrooms, not so much.
I just glanced at the "tek" you linked and saw several disturbing things it recommends:
- wiping a flame-sterilized needle with an alcohol pad
- injecting the entire contents of a spore syringe into a single spawn bag
- soil moist crystals to use in monotub
- hydrogen peroxide poured over substrate
- light as the only fruiting trigger
Here are some good teks for you:
Roger Rabbit's Let's Grow Mushrooms
TL's Mono Tubs Using Coir Tek. Ignore the part about taping the bottom of the tub with black tape; the need for it has been disproven.
TL's Still Air Box
And the two links I gave you above:
TbagTag's Grow Along
How Frank gets it done
These will give you the basis to do anything. If you've already bought spawn bags, the info here will guide you on spawning it to bulk.
Edited by Dark76 (12/06/13 01:42 PM)
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fivepointhustla
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Re: 1st grow and its a monotub and I work! [Re: Dark76]
#19237122 - 12/06/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hell yea...thanks u guys for the help!
Edited by fivepointhustla (12/06/13 05:21 PM)
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