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how many black people are on the shroomery?
#19234746 - 12/06/13 12:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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im just curious.
how many black people we got on here? every pick i see of a fellow shroomerite is of a white dude. even if its just there hand holding a jar or something there ALWAYS white.
any brothers in this bitch???
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001] 3
#19234748 - 12/06/13 12:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Dork]
#19234751 - 12/06/13 12:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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come on man you know I'm black
and I used to be asian
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001]
#19234753 - 12/06/13 12:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why does it matter?
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001] 16
#19234755 - 12/06/13 12:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Black people are a myth.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: LordSenate]
#19234763 - 12/06/13 12:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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as are midgets. there are no blacks or midgets on the shroomery
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: LittleDaddy]
#19234769 - 12/06/13 01:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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LittleDaddy said: Why does it matter?
I'd be interested to know how the Shroomery demographic compares to the "real world"
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: abltsandwich]
#19234774 - 12/06/13 01:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Use the search function.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: LordSenate]
#19234775 - 12/06/13 01:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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LittleDaddy said: Why does it matter?
because i wish i was this dude.
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LordSenate said: Black people are a myth.
not where i live!

as much as some can antimadate me there are some cool ass niggas out there...
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001]
#19234789 - 12/06/13 01:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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that's just weird and creepy
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001]
#19234797 - 12/06/13 01:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: LordSenate]
#19234803 - 12/06/13 01:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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black people are so righteous.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: akira_akuma]
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Konyap]
#19234820 - 12/06/13 01:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Konyap]
#19234837 - 12/06/13 01:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Black people?
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: abltsandwich]
#19234839 - 12/06/13 01:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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abltsandwich said:
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LittleDaddy said: Why does it matter?
I'd be interested to know how the Shroomery demographic compares to the "real world"
Understandable, but we should be moving away from being concerned with these demographics and move away from the conception of "race".
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: LittleDaddy] 2
#19234885 - 12/06/13 01:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Black guys to busy scowering facebook for fat white chicks to come on here.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: LittleDaddy]
#19234895 - 12/06/13 02:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Eh I think race is kinda real. We are different. The big trend has been overcoming differences and we're bombarded with pro-race-mixing pro-racial equality propaganda from Hollywood films to general advertising but I think we're being fooled, it's just less likely to cause civil unrest if we're all mixed down the track. Also the owners of the West don't want people to have an identity such as German heritage or English/Irish etc. and especially not "white" by the looks of it, because you can't control people who are loyal to something romantic like that.
The fact that mainly white people partake of psychedelics suggests white people are a more curious, adventurous race. Look at the history of European and White-US science. 
Black people have different interests in life.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: circastes]
#19234901 - 12/06/13 02:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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None of my black friends like to trip, Im not sure it's because they're black though.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: circastes]
#19234905 - 12/06/13 02:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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circastes said: Eh I think race is kinda real. We are different.
Define "we". Where is the line? Please be specific unless you admit that race is a non-scientific and poorly defined word.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Legend]
#19234910 - 12/06/13 02:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Magicman69 said: Black guys to busy scowering facebook for fat white chicks to come on here.

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circastes said: Eh I think race is kinda real. We are different. The big trend has been overcoming differences and we're bombarded with pro-race-mixing pro-racial equality propaganda from Hollywood films to general advertising but I think we're being fooled, it's just less likely to cause civil unrest if we're all mixed down the track. Also the owners of the West don't want people to have an identity such as German heritage or English/Irish etc. and especially not "white" by the looks of it, because you can't control people who are loyal to something romantic like that.
The fact that mainly white people partake of psychedelics suggests white people are a more curious, adventurous race. Look at the history of European and White-US science. 
Black people have different interests in life.
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i wonder why?
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001]
#19234916 - 12/06/13 02:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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at my old job my friend comes to the car and tells me how he's been working back there doing nothing in the warehouse and I say, "oh yeah, you climbin around back there?"
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001]
#19234921 - 12/06/13 02:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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evileye001 said:
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Legend said: None of my black friends like to trip, Im not sure it's because they're black though.
i wonder why?
Whatever the reason is probably why most of them are afraid of dogs.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#19234923 - 12/06/13 02:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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circastes said: Eh I think race is kinda real. We are different.
Define "we". Where is the line? Please be specific unless you admit that race is a non-scientific and poorly defined word.
race is a word given to humans.
race=breed
breed: A group of organisms having common ancestors and certain distinguishable characteristics, especially a group within a species
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001]
#19234935 - 12/06/13 02:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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certain distinguishable characteristics
Ok, if they are certain please list them or refer me to a good definition of "black", or "white" for that matter.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#19235005 - 12/06/13 02:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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certain distinguishable characteristics
Ok, if they are certain please list them or refer me to a good definition of "black", or "white" for that matter.
there are billions of "breeds" depending on how specific you want to get. certain is in the eye of the beholder.
are the pups of your litter a new breed?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_people
it is subjective but it comes down two weather they can be clasified as "different"
is "different" bad? no
are people "different" yes
if we didnt have different "breeds" we would have never evolved into what we are today!
is one superior to the other? in our "species" as of now every "breed" has the potential to be as "smart" as any other.
our "species" is so advance now i beleave that eventually no mater what you genetic advantage/disadvantage is everybody will one day have what ever the current "perfect" physical/mental state is/will be...
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: LittleDaddy]
#19235008 - 12/06/13 02:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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LittleDaddy said:
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abltsandwich said:
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LittleDaddy said: Why does it matter?
I'd be interested to know how the Shroomery demographic compares to the "real world"
Understandable, but we should be moving away from being concerned with these demographics and move away from the conception of "race".
"Conception" ...
How are scientific facts a concept?
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#19235015 - 12/06/13 02:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said:
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circastes said: Eh I think race is kinda real. We are different.
Define "we". Where is the line? Please be specific unless you admit that race is a non-scientific and poorly defined word.
oh and i admit that for sure!
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Thulean]
#19235018 - 12/06/13 03:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thulean said:
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LittleDaddy said:
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abltsandwich said:
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LittleDaddy said: Why does it matter?
I'd be interested to know how the Shroomery demographic compares to the "real world"
Understandable, but we should be moving away from being concerned with these demographics and move away from the conception of "race".
"Conception" ...
How are scientific facts a concept?
because a concept is a concept is a concept?
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Thulean]
#19235021 - 12/06/13 03:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thulean said:
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LittleDaddy said:
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abltsandwich said:
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LittleDaddy said: Why does it matter?
I'd be interested to know how the Shroomery demographic compares to the "real world"
Understandable, but we should be moving away from being concerned with these demographics and move away from the conception of "race".
"Conception" ...
How are scientific facts a concept?
Uhh, we haven't even finished defining our terms. Where do you get scientifically proven?
So everyone is their own race if you choose to view it like that, or we are all one race if you like. Who gets to draw the lines?
Is it like on a scale of darkness, and what other attributes are attached to darkness?
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: akira_akuma]
#19235023 - 12/06/13 03:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Calling races a concept implies that it's theoretical when it's very scientific.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Thulean]
#19235029 - 12/06/13 03:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just like me...
Just like me... Just like me

Just like me Just like me....
Just like me
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#19235037 - 12/06/13 03:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said:
Uhh, we haven't even finished defining our terms. Where do you get scientifically proven?
So everyone is their own race if you choose to view it like that, or we are all one race if you like. Who gets to draw the lines?
Is it like on a scale of darkness, and what other attributes are attached to darkness?
we cant even give a concrete definition of "life" much less "race" or "bread" thats not the point.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001]
#19235047 - 12/06/13 03:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have alot easier time understanding the line between living and dead than the line between black and white. Help me.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001]
#19235056 - 12/06/13 03:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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since this thtrad has drifted far from its origins. how bout some funny pics?

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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#19235066 - 12/06/13 03:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: I have alot easier time understanding the line between living and dead than the line between black and white. Help me.
Melanin is produced by cells called melanocytes in a process called melanogenesis. Melanin is made within small membrane–bound packages called melanosomes. As they become full of melanin, they move into the slender arms of melanocytes, from where they are transferred to the keratinocytes. Under normal conditions, melanosomes cover the upper part of the keratinocytes and protect them from genetic damage. One melanocyte supplies melanin to thirty-six keranocytes according to signals from the keranocytes. They also regulate melanin production and replication of melanocytes.[6] People have different skin colors mainly because their melanocytes produce different amount and kinds of melanin. The genetic mechanism behind human skin color is mainly regulated by the enzyme tyrosinase, which creates the color of the skin, eyes, and hair shades.[9][10] Differences in skin color are also attributed to differences in size and distribution of melanosomes in the skin.[6] Melanocytes produce two types of melanin. The most common form of biological melanin is eumelanin, a brown-black polymer of dihydroxyindole carboxylic acids, and their reduced forms. Most are derived from the amino acid tyrosine. Eumelanin is found in hair, areola, and skin, and the hair colors grey, black, yellow, and brown. In humans, it is more abundant in people with dark skin. Pheomelanin, a pink to red hue is found in particularly large quantities in red hair,[11] the lips, nipples, glans of the penis, and vagina.[12]
Both the amount and type of melanin produced is controlled by a number of genes that operate under incomplete dominance. One copy of each of the various genes is inherited from each parent. Each gene can come in several alleles, resulting in the great variety of human skin tones. Melanin controls the amount of ultraviolet (UV) radiation from the sun that penetrates the skin by absorption. While UV radiation can assist in the production of vitamin D, excessive exposure to UV can damage health.
need me to explane it clearer?
thats all it it dude. you look at race much more raceistly then i do.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001]
#19235079 - 12/06/13 03:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Whaaaaat? You actually think that explains things to me. I know about melanin. I'm saying for race to be scientific you must define terms. You can't just be like black is a race but so is German and English. I made some categories and that is science yo. It makes no sense and it is non-scientific.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Thulean]
#19235090 - 12/06/13 03:43 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thulean said: Just like me...
Just like me... Just like me

Just like me Just like me....
Just like me

Yeah that about sums it up. It's all over TV and Hollywood. Like in Hollywood movies all of a sudden an interracial couple will appear in the story completely unnecessarily or the daughter of a white guy will 'happen' to be black. McDonald's ads in Australia feature this really Caucasian girl kissing her brown boyfriend. I'm not saying it's right or wrong necessarily but I am suggesting there is an agenda to suppress racial identity in our countries.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#19235102 - 12/06/13 03:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Whaaaaat? You actually think that explains things to me. I know about melanin. I'm saying for race to be scientific you must define terms. You can't just be like black is a race but so is German and English. I made some categories and that is science yo. It makes no sense and it is non-scientific.
did what i said say defined terms? once agen it is in the eye of the beholder. stop being stupid and spiting hairs.
who is white and black.
 
you can tell the difference? ok then there is a "difference" no there is no definition. stop dwelling on that. my point is that there is differnt human breeds.

is she black or white? or asian or german?
thats not the fucking point! its your perspective! its your out look! if your looking for a "definition" thats more "raciest" then anything!
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001]
#19235105 - 12/06/13 03:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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you can always divide 1 by 1/2 and divide that by 1/2 but you will try for ever to get to zero...
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001]
#19235114 - 12/06/13 04:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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thats not the fucking point! its your perspective! its your out look! if your looking for a "definition" thats more "raciest" then anything!
Oh. I thought we were talking about science not feelings. Nvm
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: moonrockmushy]
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moonrockmushy said: Whaaaaat? You actually think that explains things to me. I know about melanin. I'm saying for race to be scientific you must define terms. You can't just be like black is a race but so is German and English. I made some categories and that is science yo. It makes no sense and it is non-scientific.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#19235126 - 12/06/13 04:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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thats not the fucking point! its your perspective! its your out look! if your looking for a "definition" thats more "raciest" then anything!
Oh. I thought we were talking about science not feelings. Nvm
ok science.
THATS THE FUCKING POINT! YOU CAN NOT DEFINE BLACK AND WHITE OR ANY RACE BY SCIENCE!
you canT tell where your orgens are on this planet, what "races" you came from and the difference between one and another is purly from a abjective standpoint.
damn dude did you never read.
On the Origin of Species by Charles Darwin
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001]
#19235132 - 12/06/13 04:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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There really isn't that many races.. Quite a few times in this thread you seem to have misconstrued race for ethnicity
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: LordSenate]
#19235140 - 12/06/13 04:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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LordSenate said: There really isn't that many races.. Quite a few times in this thread you seem to have misconstrued race for ethnicity
race and ethnicity is again subjective...
just saying.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001]
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If damn near the entire world uses both of those things to describe and define a person then it's not very subjective.. If it was a few people thinking oh yeah I think this person is this then that might be understandable..
As it is humanity as a whole has chosen to define people based on these things so it's not really subjective any longer.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: LordSenate]
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Hate to break it to you guys, but race exists. Does it matter? No.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Legend]
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there are no black people on the internet
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Soulidarity]
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Soulidarity]
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Soulidarity said: there are no black people on the internet
Yea that's why there's only a white male icon like OP has.
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It doesn't really matter that race exists, we can all get along fine, but if you mix the population of a white country with non-whites you're going to get a non-white society and culture in the morning. I find it hard to believe Australia missed this one.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Legend]
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Legend said: None of my black friends like to trip, Im not sure it's because they're black though.
This. The majority of my friends are not black, mostly because I was raised in a primarily all white, Irish, catholic neighborhood, but I do have a number of friends from college who are, and none of them like to trip. Bunch of em love to roll though I feel like the shroomery attracts trippers though
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001]
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evileye001 said: how many black people are on the shroomery?
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: circastes]
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circastes said: Eh I think race is kinda real. We are different. The big trend has been overcoming differences and we're bombarded with pro-race-mixing pro-racial equality propaganda from Hollywood films to general advertising but I think we're being fooled, it's just less likely to cause civil unrest if we're all mixed down the track. Also the owners of the West don't want people to have an identity such as German heritage or English/Irish etc. and especially not "white" by the looks of it, because you can't control people who are loyal to something romantic like that.
The fact that mainly white people partake of psychedelics suggests white people are a more curious, adventurous race. Look at the history of European and White-US science. 
Black people have different interests in life.
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Thulean said: Just like me...
Just like me... Just like me

Just like me Just like me....
Just like me


People have such a hard time dealing with the fact that racial differences are more than skin deep. Asians and jews have higher average IQs than europeans, europeans have higher average IQs than blacks, blacks have higher average IQs than Straya'n aboriginals. Intelligence has a heavy influence on behavior and correlates with cultural and societal advancement. Deal with it. There is more to life and society than intelligence, and averages say nothing about the individual, but blinding oneself to differences between races is ignorant and intellectually dishonest.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
#19242261 - 12/07/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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People have such a hard time dealing with the fact that racial differences are more than skin deep. Asians and jews have higher average IQs than europeans, europeans have higher average IQs than blacks, blacks have higher average IQs than Straya'n aboriginals. Intelligence has a heavy influence on behavior and correlates with cultural and societal advancement. Deal with it. There is more to life and society than intelligence, and averages say nothing about the individual, but blinding oneself to differences between races is ignorant and intellectually dishonest.
That's a ridiculous thing to say. There are way more factors that go into why people have higher IQs than race, which probably has nothing to do with it. Social oppression could be a reason for statistics that you quote if you even have any. Having said that, you are the ignorant one giving way to a society that is just as oblivious as it was in its yesteryears. Aside from that how does one even define race? By a set of features in one's appearance?
How could you say race has any significant role in a society that is interracial? Especially as generations progress.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: LittleDaddy]
#19242294 - 12/07/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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People have such a hard time dealing with the fact that racial differences are more than skin deep. Asians and jews have higher average IQs than europeans, europeans have higher average IQs than blacks, blacks have higher average IQs than Straya'n aboriginals. Intelligence has a heavy influence on behavior and correlates with cultural and societal advancement. Deal with it. There is more to life and society than intelligence, and averages say nothing about the individual, but blinding oneself to differences between races is ignorant and intellectually dishonest.
That's a ridiculous thing to say. There are way more factors that go into why people have higher IQs than race, which probably has nothing to do with it. Social oppression could be a reason for statistics that you quote if you even have any. Having said that, you are the ignorant one giving way to a society that is just as oblivious as it was in its yesteryears. Aside from that how does one even define race? By a set of features in one's appearance?
How could you say race has any significant role in a society that is interracial? Especially as generations progress.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: LittleDaddy] 1
#19242323 - 12/07/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah IQ is a poor indicator of supposed racial differences because it's heavily influenced by culture.
Obviously there are visual and genetic similarities between people from neighboring regions of the world, but in much of the world "race mixing" has been happening the entire time. If a population is more isolated for a longer period the people will start to look more uniform, giving the appearance of a "pure race" even if the group initially was more diverse looking. The idea that there are these pure uncontaminated races that have somehow managed to remain static and unchanged to this day and are only now in danger of mixing is total bullshit.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: psi]
#19242331 - 12/07/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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psi said: Yeah IQ is a poor indicator of supposed racial differences because it's heavily influenced by culture.
Obviously there are visual and genetic similarities between people from neighboring regions of the world, but in much of the world "race mixing" has been happening the entire time. If a population is more isolated for a longer period the people will start to look more uniform, giving the appearance of a "pure race" even if the group initially was more diverse looking. The idea that there are these pure uncontaminated races that have somehow managed to remain static and unchanged to this day and are only now in danger of mixing is total bullshit.
Very well said.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: LittleDaddy]
#19242348 - 12/07/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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averages. averages. averages. averages.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#19242354 - 12/07/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: ChinChiller]
#19242373 - 12/07/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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too many times people will ignore what people are saying, and argue semantics, when their isn't an ongoing semantic debate.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: akira_akuma]
#19242383 - 12/07/13 07:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Should have made this a poll
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001]
#19242453 - 12/07/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Black people on the boards?
Forest Whitaker and Neil DeGrasse Tyson are actually esteemed members of our community here at the Shroomery but they don't like to reveal their true persona's because they don't want the wrong kind of attention here or the unnecessary publicity associated with a forum such as this, which is understandable.
So try to respect their wishes and don't ask them who they are if you have any suspicions as to who they might be.
Doesn't keep you from guessing, though.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Into The Woods]
#19242477 - 12/07/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Im black
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Nimpo]
#19242493 - 12/07/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Nimpo]
#19242517 - 12/07/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#19242641 - 12/07/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nimpo said: Im black
me too...
really? wow
you always seemed to give off the stereotypical "white guy" vibe to me.
just goes to show.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001]
#19242655 - 12/07/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am that black guy in your sig...
And yes me and Ariana have hooked up, multiple times...
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Into The Woods]
#19242664 - 12/07/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Into The Woods said: Black people on the boards?
Forest Whitaker and Neil DeGrasse Tyson are actually esteemed members of our community here at the Shroomery but they don't like to reveal their true persona's because they don't want the wrong kind of attention here or the unnecessary publicity associated with a forum such as this, which is understandable.
So try to respect their wishes and don't ask them who they are if you have any suspicions as to who they might be.
Doesn't keep you from guessing, though. 
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: TrentBoyett]
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mjmihalov said: I am that black guy in your sig...
And yes me and Ariana have hooked up, multiple times...
you cracker.
btw i been reading you drug use journal. very interesting and good luck!
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001]
#19242674 - 12/07/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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evileye001 said: btw i been reading you drug use journal. very interesting and good luck!
Yeah, I gave up on that, It became too much work...
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: TrentBoyett]
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evileye001 said: btw i been reading you drug use journal. very interesting and good luck!
Yeah, I gave up on that, It became too much work...

then you should probably delete that or at least post the fact.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#19242691 - 12/07/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001]
#19242695 - 12/07/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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evileye001 said: btw i been reading you drug use journal. very interesting and good luck!
Yeah, I gave up on that, It became too much work...

then you should probably delete that or at least post the fact.
I'm updating it right now...
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: LittleDaddy]
#19243249 - 12/08/13 12:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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People have such a hard time dealing with the fact that racial differences are more than skin deep. Asians and jews have higher average IQs than europeans, europeans have higher average IQs than blacks, blacks have higher average IQs than Straya'n aboriginals. Intelligence has a heavy influence on behavior and correlates with cultural and societal advancement. Deal with it. There is more to life and society than intelligence, and averages say nothing about the individual, but blinding oneself to differences between races is ignorant and intellectually dishonest.
That's a ridiculous thing to say. There are way more factors that go into why people have higher IQs than race, which probably has nothing to do with it. Social oppression could be a reason for statistics that you quote if you even have any. Having said that, you are the ignorant one giving way to a society that is just as oblivious as it was in its yesteryears. Aside from that how does one even define race? By a set of features in one's appearance?
How could you say race has any significant role in a society that is interracial? Especially as generations progress.
I'm not saying that there aren't other factors to IQ than race, or even that IQ is genetically determined by race, simply that ignoring race or arguing definition semantics is ignorance for the sake of political correctness. Yes race is generally defined as physical features and skin pigmentation. Whether you want to break it down to black, white, asian, etc or negroid, caucasoid, monogloid etc is irrelevant.
If you don't recognize the role that race plays in our interracial society you must be quite inexperienced with the workings of the world. I can say it has a significant role because I'm not. Race is a strong indicator of political leanings, religious beliefs, consumer trends, housing values, crime rates, quality of educational facilities, etc, even when taking socioeconomic factors into account.
Averages don't tell you everything you need to know about a person or a group of people, but pretending that they don't tell you anything is foolish.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
#19243365 - 12/08/13 01:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Averages don't tell you everything you need to know about a person or a group of people, but pretending that they don't tell you anything is foolish.
As far as anyone knows the issues you brought up are cultural: black man born in inner-city Detroit vs the same man brought up in an upper class suburb.
Same race and different cultures, the statistical differences could be attributed to gentrification and similar issues. As far as I've seen there's no reason to believe race is anything more than skin deep or social, the social aspect being mostly the effects of white elitism.
It would be fitting to see some peer-reviewed sources outlining (an) argument(s) for race differences which go further than that, but personally I already have reservations. As a trained musician in Classical/Jazz/etc I've seen no difference in my field between the capabilities of various races, in music (which depending on the genre, combines many different mental factors) there is no difference between races. The personal significance of that observation is telling (for me, relative to my own observation).
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People have such a hard time dealing with the fact that racial differences are more than skin deep. Asians and jews have higher average IQs than europeans, europeans have higher average IQs than blacks, blacks have higher average IQs than Straya'n aboriginals. Intelligence has a heavy influence on behavior and correlates with cultural and societal advancement. Deal with it. There is more to life and society than intelligence, and averages say nothing about the individual, but blinding oneself to differences between races is ignorant and intellectually dishonest.
That's a ridiculous thing to say. There are way more factors that go into why people have higher IQs than race, which probably has nothing to do with it. Social oppression could be a reason for statistics that you quote if you even have any. Having said that, you are the ignorant one giving way to a society that is just as oblivious as it was in its yesteryears. Aside from that how does one even define race? By a set of features in one's appearance?
How could you say race has any significant role in a society that is interracial? Especially as generations progress.
I'm not saying that there aren't other factors to IQ than race, or even that IQ is genetically determined by race, simply that ignoring race or arguing definition semantics is ignorance for the sake of political correctness. Yes race is generally defined as physical features and skin pigmentation. Whether you want to break it down to black, white, asian, etc or negroid, caucasoid, monogloid etc is irrelevant.
If you don't recognize the role that race plays in our interracial society you must be quite inexperienced with the workings of the world. I can say it has a significant role because I'm not. Race is a strong indicator of political leanings, religious beliefs, consumer trends, housing values, crime rates, quality of educational facilities, etc, even when taking socioeconomic factors into account.
Averages don't tell you everything you need to know about a person or a group of people, but pretending that they don't tell you anything is foolish.
It's that ideology that makes "race" realistic. Because people believe this and simply accept it, cultural constructions result from it and form around these ridiculous claims. People actually believe it and think that its an innate thing when race has nothing to do with anything more than your appearance.
I'm not saying I don't believe that world is affected by these constructions, I'm saying that race and all the connotations we put on them is not realistic.
Race isn't real. Racism is. It's foolish to not recognize that.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: LittleDaddy]
#19243447 - 12/08/13 02:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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People have such a hard time dealing with the fact that racial differences are more than skin deep. Asians and jews have higher average IQs than europeans, europeans have higher average IQs than blacks, blacks have higher average IQs than Straya'n aboriginals. Intelligence has a heavy influence on behavior and correlates with cultural and societal advancement. Deal with it. There is more to life and society than intelligence, and averages say nothing about the individual, but blinding oneself to differences between races is ignorant and intellectually dishonest.
That's a ridiculous thing to say. There are way more factors that go into why people have higher IQs than race, which probably has nothing to do with it. Social oppression could be a reason for statistics that you quote if you even have any. Having said that, you are the ignorant one giving way to a society that is just as oblivious as it was in its yesteryears. Aside from that how does one even define race? By a set of features in one's appearance?
How could you say race has any significant role in a society that is interracial? Especially as generations progress.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: spixce]
#19243491 - 12/08/13 02:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i had some black neighbors one time i fed some mushrooms, after that they never talked to me again, i think they thought i was the devil or something.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Captainpaps]
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I think if you just trust yourself and give it a fair go, and are perceptive and intelligent, you'll notice just that equality of the races, that there is somehow a 'human race', is just something that arose probably because Western governments wanted to immigrate from non-European countries to boost the economy, or because the the West is Christian and part of Christianity is that everyone must be equal, or because it causes less civil unrest. Racial equality is a political tool. In actuality the races will go for a different value system, a different aesthetic appeal, a different work ethic, different clothes, sayings, family atmosphere, social atmosphere, aggressiveness, friendliness, spiritual desire... overall you get a vastly different human being.
That's all I have to say. Do what thou wilt. Intermarriage is crazy popular in Australia and it seems like it's the same in America lately. You'd think however if there was something to being white or asian or black, which there obviously is, there should be some interest in preserving it.
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And racism arose out of careful and impartial observation, right? 
It is based on outdated science. The baggage that race comes with makes it completely partial from the start. It cannot be used to explain human behavior unless you prefer outdated science.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Captainpaps]
#19243743 - 12/08/13 05:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: OldHam]
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What is a black people..?
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Captainpaps]
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Captainpaps said: i had some black neighbors one time i fed some mushrooms, after that they never talked to me again, i think they thought i was the devil or something. 
Can you elaborate? What do you mean you "fed" them mushrooms?
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: circastes]
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circastes said: I think if you just trust yourself and give it a fair go, and are perceptive and intelligent, you'll notice just that equality of the races, that there is somehow a 'human race', is just something that arose probably because Western governments wanted to immigrate from non-European countries to boost the economy, or because the the West is Christian and part of Christianity is that everyone must be equal, or because it causes less civil unrest. Racial equality is a political tool. In actuality the races will go for a different value system, a different aesthetic appeal, a different work ethic, different clothes, sayings, family atmosphere, social atmosphere, aggressiveness, friendliness, spiritual desire... overall you get a vastly different human being.
That's all I have to say. Do what thou wilt. Intermarriage is crazy popular in Australia and it seems like it's the same in America lately. You'd think however if there was something to being white or asian or black, which there obviously is, there should be some interest in preserving it.
That's the thing though, nothing is lost when a dissimilar looking couple has children together. Their genetics are both passed on to the children (along with their culture and values etc., which are not genetic.)
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: moonrockmushy]
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moonrockmushy said: And racism arose out of careful and impartial observation, right? 
It is based on outdated science.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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You're going too far back. Look up Johann Friedrich Blumenbach.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: s240779]
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racism has been around far longer than that
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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To sidestep the issue of race for a second ( not that anyone even sees me but..) What's the point of multi-culturalism if you're forced to like all cultures equally?
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Prisoner#1 said: racism has been around far longer than that
Racism has been around probably since the Spanish inquisition - which further proves how outdated it is. a token of propaganda.
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circastes said: I think if you just trust yourself and give it a fair go, and are perceptive and intelligent, you'll notice just that equality of the races, that there is somehow a 'human race', is just something that arose probably because Western governments wanted to immigrate from non-European countries to boost the economy, or because the the West is Christian and part of Christianity is that everyone must be equal, or because it causes less civil unrest. Racial equality is a political tool. In actuality the races will go for a different value system, a different aesthetic appeal, a different work ethic, different clothes, sayings, family atmosphere, social atmosphere, aggressiveness, friendliness, spiritual desire... overall you get a vastly different human being.
That's all I have to say. Do what thou wilt. Intermarriage is crazy popular in Australia and it seems like it's the same in America lately. You'd think however if there was something to being white or asian or black, which there obviously is, there should be some interest in preserving it.
The "races" will go for a different value system because it's a CULTURAL CONSTRUCTION. Why should we value something that makes people that are just as genetically different as the next guy feel obligated to prove they are a superior race or feel inferior? Why should we value something that makes whites superior? Why should we value something that puts a stigma on every dark-skinned human by police officers? Why can't we embrace the culture together? "White people" have made some pretty damn good funk, jazz (Buddy Rich), and rap. "Black people" have made some amazing advances in science. Some asians are idiots.
If race didn't carry the connotations of violence, oppression, slavery, inferiority, and superiority it might be okay to preserve the good parts of culture, but even then its not because people seem to get a little uneasy when a "white guy" raps or a "black guy" has a big shirt on, which further creates a gap between "races" because now if one has an interest in what another "race" does then it's inappropriate to pursue it unless you're somehow good enough to tear the gap down, which seldom happens.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: OldHam]
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You're not forced to do anything, white people problems
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001]
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I know through PM of several ethnic, gender and sexual minority members who on the boards hold back posts that identify them as such because they don't want to deal with the hassle of being known as such.
I wish they didn't, but I understand. Theres a bit of a locker room atmosphere in The Pub lately and that isnt inviting to presenting a potential vulnerability.
Homophobic banter is fairly mild here but if you're a woman or black this place can appear hostile as all fuck.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: circastes]
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circastes said: I think if you just trust yourself and give it a fair go, and are perceptive and intelligent, you'll notice just that equality of the races, that there is somehow a 'human race', is just something that arose probably because Western governments wanted to immigrate from non-European countries to boost the economy, or because the the West is Christian and part of Christianity is that everyone must be equal, or because it causes less civil unrest. Racial equality is a political tool. In actuality the races will go for a different value system, a different aesthetic appeal, a different work ethic, different clothes, sayings, family atmosphere, social atmosphere, aggressiveness, friendliness, spiritual desire... overall you get a vastly different human being.
That's all I have to say. Do what thou wilt. Intermarriage is crazy popular in Australia and it seems like it's the same in America lately. You'd think however if there was something to being white or asian or black, which there obviously is, there should be some interest in preserving it.
Its interesting for me to see how people justify racism to themselves, where are the peer-reviewed articles and research papers outlining these supposed obvious differences?
Everything you've mentioned is cultural: clothing? sayings? work ethic? Really?
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Repertoire89]
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Homophobic banter is fairly mild here but if you're a woman or black this place can appear hostile as all fuck.
That's disappointing. It shouldn't even be relevant.
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Its interesting for me to see how people justify racism to themselves, where are the peer-reviewed articles and research papers outlining these supposed obvious differences?
Exactly, exactly, exactly.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Repertoire89]
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Averages don't tell you everything you need to know about a person or a group of people, but pretending that they don't tell you anything is foolish.
As far as anyone knows the issues you brought up are cultural: black man born in inner-city Detroit vs the same man brought up in an upper class suburb.
Same race and different cultures, the statistical differences could be attributed to gentrification and similar issues. As far as I've seen there's no reason to believe race is anything more than skin deep or social, the social aspect being mostly the effects of white elitism.
It would be fitting to see some peer-reviewed sources outlining (an) argument(s) for race differences which go further than that, but personally I already have reservations. As a trained musician in Classical/Jazz/etc I've seen no difference in my field between the capabilities of various races, in music (which depending on the genre, combines many different mental factors) there is no difference between races. The personal significance of that observation is telling (for me, relative to my own observation).
As far as anyone knows? Not really, read some Arthur Jensen and then read the rebuttals to his arguments, Richard Nisbett had the most legit criticisms of his claims imo.
Whether you want to break IQ down to cultural or genetic factors or a combination of both, the facts are that even when taking socioeconomic factors into account blacks on average commit more crime than whites and have IQs that are on average 10-15 points lower than a white person coming from a similar background. Asian people on average have IQs that are 7 points higher than whites.
That doesn't mean that there aren't black people with genius IQs or black people who can write good music, or that there aren't asian criminals or stupid white people. But take a critical look at the arguments for and against the g factor (IQ gap) and at the very least, you will have to accept that there are differences between the races. Whether they are genetic or environmental is not the point.
Society tries very hard to ingrain in us that there aren't any differences between races and that it's wrong and racist to think that there are, but it's not true.
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RiderOnTheStorm said: Whether they are genetic or environmental is not the point.
Society tries very hard to ingrain in us that there aren't any differences between races and that it's wrong and racist to think that there are, but it's not true.
When those differences are environmental, a conclusion which just about any reasonable scholar arrives on, then there ARE NO differences between the races because race isnt environment, its genetics. Insufficient genetic basis in fact to even consider it a race, according to science. Its like calling blondes a race.
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As far as anyone knows? Not really, read some Arthur Jensen and then read the rebuttals to his arguments, Richard Nisbett had the most legit criticisms of his claims imo.
Whether you want to break IQ down to cultural or genetic factors or a combination of both, the facts are that even when taking socioeconomic factors into account blacks on average commit more crime than whites and have IQs that are on average 10-15 points lower than a white person coming from a similar background. Asian people on average have IQs that are 7 points higher than whites.
That doesn't mean that there aren't black people with genius IQs or black people who can write good music, or that there aren't asian criminals or stupid white people. But take a critical look at the arguments for and against the g factor (IQ gap) and at the very least, you will have to accept that there are differences between the races. Whether they are genetic or environmental is not the point.
Society tries very hard to ingrain in us that there aren't any differences between races and that it's wrong and racist to think that there are, but it's not true.
You're justifying your claims because of another opinion, which isn't legitimate. Where are your peer-reviewed studies to back your claims? It's a social construction. Nothing genetic. No evidence backs that it's genetic.
And yes, whether it is environmental or genetic is the point because since it's environmental it shows that it's a cultural construction and something we can change. there aren't any differences between races, we choose to believe there are and accept it. that's what oppresses people.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Asante]
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RiderOnTheStorm said: Whether they are genetic or environmental is not the point.
Society tries very hard to ingrain in us that there aren't any differences between races and that it's wrong and racist to think that there are, but it's not true.
When those differences are environmental, a conclusion which just about any reasonable scholar arrives on, then there ARE NO differences between the races because race isnt environment, its genetics. Insufficient genetic basis in fact to even consider it a race, according to science. Its like calling blondes a race.
I agree with you that's they're primarily if not completely environmental, but race as a form of grouping is a valid indicator of environment, among other data.
From one of Nisbett's critiques on Jensen (pg4):
"If the Black–White IQ gap is largely hereditary, then children having one Black and one White parent should have the same IQ on average, regardless of which parent is Black. But if one assumes that mothers are particularly important to the intellectual socialization of their children and if the socialization practices of Whites are more favorable to IQ development than those of Black mothers, then children of White mothers and Black fathers should have higher IQs than children of Black mothers and White fathers. This could of course not have a plausible genetic explanation. In fact, it emerges that children of White mothers and Black fathers have IQs 9 points higher than children with Black mothers and White fathers (Willerman, Naylor, & Myrianthopoulos, 1974)."
Same source, (pg6):
"Under the hereditarian model, it should make relatively little difference whether Black children are adopted by Black families or by White families. Under an environmental model that assumes that White families are especially likely to intervene in their children’s socialization in ways that result in their having high IQs, it should make a substantial difference whether the Black child is raised with a Black or White family. And in fact, it does. Moore (1986) found that Black children raised by Black middle-class families had mean IQs of 104, whereas Black children raised by White middle-class families had mean IQs of 117."
If the primary factor of having a lower IQ is not genetic predisposition but, apparently, being raised by a black mother, and if being born a black kid in the US makes it far more likely that your biological father is not around as is well established in many other threads you've participated in, at what point do you not draw the connection between race and environment? It seems to me that race is a pretty good indicator of behavior and environment, as statistics repeatedly show. Therefore ignoring race for lack of genetic definition or for need to be politically correct, is ignorant.
I just don't understand how you guys can claim that there are no differences between races, there clearly are cultural, ideological, and intellectual differences that fall in line with the categorized races. If statistics meaningfully pointed to similar data for blondes vs brunettes vs gingers, I would accept it into my worldview as well. It would not matter to me what the categorization of the hair types was called, even if it was "race".
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this thread continues to dwindle into oblivion.
black people... blah blah blah... statistics... lalala... people talknig about nothing... blahlbalhalhasglsgderfsgvwersgaweyh y
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: akira_akuma]
#19245197 - 12/08/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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LittleDaddy said: You're justifying your claims because of another opinion, which isn't legitimate. Where are your peer-reviewed studies to back your claims? It's a social construction. Nothing genetic. No evidence backs that it's genetic.
And yes, whether it is environmental or genetic is the point because since it's environmental it shows that it's a cultural construction and something we can change. there aren't any differences between races, we choose to believe there are and accept it. that's what oppresses people.
Fuck off with "isn't legitimate", as if your opinion isn't influenced by anyone else's. I haven't made the claim that the differences are genetic, nice straw man though.
Do tell me, how do we make black fathers stick around and make black mothers encourage intellectual development? And what benefit do we get from pretending it's not a race issue, considering that asians and hispanics and whites don't seem to need the same intervention?
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black people... blah blah blah... statistics... lalala... people talknig about nothing... blahlbalhalhasglsgderfsgvwersgaweyh y
Oh look another award winning post by akira_akuma. There are many other threads that may entertain you more.
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yeah, you hate all of my posts. boo hoo.
have a real conversation where you aren't trying to vilify people, posting big wholly "borrowed" articles that say nothing from your own point of view; because you can't back your own bullshit up... oh and more of these wonderful posts with you raving...
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you fuck off. you don't know shit about statistical analysis, and you don't know shit about black, hispanic, or asian people.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
#19245274 - 12/08/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Do tell me, how do we make black fathers stick around and make black mothers encourage intellectual development? And what benefit do we get from pretending it's not a race issue, considering that asians and hispanics and whites don't seem to need the same intervention?
By eliminating this concept that we push onto them that race does exist and that that's how they should act. You saying that it's not genetic shows that it doesn't exist except when we make it exist.
http://wupa.wustl.edu/record_archive/1998/10-15-98/articles/races.html
It's not significant whether you believe it to be genetic or not - it's significant that you believe it exists because that's what continues this concept of "race" that pushes people into these cultural boundaries we've made for them.
And you're right on the opinion part, I suppose I didn't support my case by saying that.
You telling me to fuck off isn't cool.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: LittleDaddy]
#19245283 - 12/08/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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he's just being who he is. a glutton for punishment.
but don't worry. it's significant for HIM to believe, it's significant for YOU to believe... otherwise, you wouldn't be having this great conversation.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: akira_akuma]
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Hey guys border collies are only better sheep herders than chiwawas because of cultural differences.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Shins]
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And german shepards are only better attack dogs than yorkshire terriers because of cultural differences too.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Shins]
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differences between dog breeds are very much greater than that between human ethnic groups.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: LittleDaddy]
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So basically your view is that we should get rid of the word race for it's implication of genetic difference, and hope that everybody feels more connected?
I almost wish I was that idealistic. Almost.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Asante]
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The principle still stands.
Keep in mind that people love dogs of all kinds (myself included) for different reasons.
just because a border colly is an excellent sheep dog doesn't mean its as good of a rat hunter that a terrier is.
I prefer to embrace the differences between genetic straind and the unique properties they exhibit.
like you don't always want to smoke afghan kush, sometimes a nice sativa hits the spot.
To say that genetics play no part is just dumb and ignorant to biology and genetics. I see it like a gang of superheroes, each has his/her own unique strengths and weaknesses which can very much compliment one another when people come together.
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I almost wish I was that idealistic. Almost.
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Shins said: The principle still stands.
Keep in mind that people love dogs of all kinds (myself included) for different reasons.
just because a border colly is an excellent sheep dog doesn't mean its as good of a rat hunter that a terrier is.
I prefer to embrace the differences between genetic straind and the unique properties they exhibit.
like you don't always want to smoke afghan kush, sometimes a nice sativa hits the spot.
To say that genetics play no part is just dumb and ignorant to biology and genetics. I see it like a gang of superheroes, each has his/her own unique strengths and weaknesses which can very much compliment one another when people come together.
agreed. biodiversity is better then the arrogance in supposing that everyone has "the same skills" and that some people are "smarter then others".
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
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RiderOnTheStorm said: So basically your view is that we should get rid of the word race for it's implication of genetic difference, and hope that everybody feels more connected?
I almost wish I was that idealistic. Almost.
No. Get rid of the idea of races.
I'm not saying it's going to happen tomorrow, but over time it will.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: LittleDaddy]
#19245779 - 12/08/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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your opinion is true.
but don't let me tell you that. just give me bullshit for having another opinion.
like everyone else has, but please... remember. your opinion is right on point. Rider isn't going to be in a position to agree with you though.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#19245844 - 12/08/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma said: your opinion is true.
but don't let me tell you that. just give me bullshit for having another opinion.
like everyone else has, but please... remember. your opinion is right on point. Rider isn't going to be in a position to agree with you though.
thanks for joining in the conversation. I think that's a good indication for me to leave this thread. haha. have a good one.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: LittleDaddy] 1
#19245850 - 12/08/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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RiderOnTheStorm said: So basically your view is that we should get rid of the word race for it's implication of genetic difference, and hope that everybody feels more connected?
I almost wish I was that idealistic. Almost.
No. Get rid of the idea of races.
I'm not saying it's going to happen tomorrow, but over time it will.
sure lets get rid of mathematics too.
its not fair that 1+1 = 2 and 1+2 = 3. They should both equal 2 this isnt equality.
GET REAL GENETICS IS A BONAFIED SCIENCE AND TO SAY THAT RACE DOES NOT EXIST IS TO DENY WELL ESTABLISHED BIOLOGY.
by your line of logic the races of canine mammals should also be considered equal to humans and all animals and matter as well.
Do YOU REALIZE THAT YOU ARE DENYING WELL ESTABLISHED BIOLOGY AND GENETICS?
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Shins] 1
#19245860 - 12/08/13 04:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shins said:
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LittleDaddy said:
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RiderOnTheStorm said: So basically your view is that we should get rid of the word race for it's implication of genetic difference, and hope that everybody feels more connected?
I almost wish I was that idealistic. Almost.
No. Get rid of the idea of races.
I'm not saying it's going to happen tomorrow, but over time it will.
sure lets get rid of mathematics too.
its not fair that 1+1 = 2 and 1+2 = 3. They should both equal 2 this isnt equality.
GET REAL GENETICS IS A BONAFIED SCIENCE AND TO SAY THAT RACE DOES NOT EXIST IS TO DENY WELL ESTABLISHED BIOLOGY.
by your line of logic the races of canine mammals should also be considered equal to humans and all animals and matter as well.
Do YOU REALIZE THAT YOU ARE DENYING WELL ESTABLISHED BIOLOGY AND GENETICS?
http://wupa.wustl.edu/record_archive/1998/10-15-98/articles/races.html
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: LittleDaddy]
#19245913 - 12/08/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you believe that go buy a shitzu to defend your life in an attack.
i be over here with my german shepard living in the real world.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001]
#19245968 - 12/08/13 04:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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evileye001 said: im just curious.
how many black people we got on here? every pick i see of a fellow shroomerite is of a white dude. even if its just there hand holding a jar or something there ALWAYS white.
any brothers in this bitch???

Im too black to post my picture. My babys mama migh find me. Dat bitch CrayCray
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: LittleDaddy]
#19246018 - 12/08/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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LittleDaddy said:
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akira_akuma said: your opinion is true.
but don't let me tell you that. just give me bullshit for having another opinion.
like everyone else has, but please... remember. your opinion is right on point. Rider isn't going to be in a position to agree with you though.
thanks for joining in the conversation. I think that's a good indication for me to leave this thread. haha. have a good one. 
you're saving yourself from alot of pointless rattling of swords. good for you. try again on another day when less dickholes are online.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Shins]
#19246022 - 12/08/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shins said:
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LittleDaddy said:
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RiderOnTheStorm said: So basically your view is that we should get rid of the word race for it's implication of genetic difference, and hope that everybody feels more connected?
I almost wish I was that idealistic. Almost.
No. Get rid of the idea of races.
I'm not saying it's going to happen tomorrow, but over time it will.
sure lets get rid of mathematics too.
its not fair that 1+1 = 2 and 1+2 = 3. They should both equal 2 this isnt equality.
GET REAL GENETICS IS A BONAFIED SCIENCE AND TO SAY THAT RACE DOES NOT EXIST IS TO DENY WELL ESTABLISHED BIOLOGY.
by your line of logic the races of canine mammals should also be considered equal to humans and all animals and matter as well.
Do YOU REALIZE THAT YOU ARE DENYING WELL ESTABLISHED BIOLOGY AND GENETICS?
lets make a strawman and get some pitchforks.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: akira_akuma]
#19246105 - 12/08/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Anything I say in this thread will make me automatically racist but...
I don't have any black friends. I guess that makes me a racist. Oh well, I can live with that.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Shins] 1
#19246432 - 12/08/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shins said: GET REAL GENETICS IS A BONAFIED SCIENCE AND TO SAY THAT RACE DOES NOT EXIST IS TO DENY WELL ESTABLISHED BIOLOGY.
So geneticists all agree that races are a meaningful way to categorize humans?
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lets_drive_around said: Anything I say in this thread will make me automatically racist but...
I don't have any black friends. I guess that makes me a racist. Oh well, I can live with that.
i had black friends in pre-school and grade school, but after that

nada
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: akira_akuma] 2
#19246633 - 12/08/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah having a black friend grants you immunity from any accusation of racism.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: psi] 2
#19247541 - 12/08/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The thing is there are no distinct groups. There is no such thing as racial purity, and we are all equally evolved as we all originate from the same point (unless you believe in aliens or religion or time travel or something else non-mainstream). The basis of race is that there are distinct groups. Maybe there are but it is soo much more complicated than black and white, or the 7 or so races that people use to group people. Those categories have no proven connection to human behavior in terms of genetics.
I have to think that people who use race to explain someone's behavior have a hard time conceptualizing the way genetics works, or they are just downright arrogant.
In my mind it does more harm than good, like so far that I don't get how other people buy into it. If anything a more limited genetic pool is a disadvantage. That is kinda a big part of how we evolve and change with our environment, trying out new and different things.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#19247563 - 12/08/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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psychedlics are rarely used by the black population according to inaba and cohen
Edited by thelanzii (12/08/13 10:21 PM)
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: psi]
#19247568 - 12/08/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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psi said: Yeah having a black friend grants you immunity from any accusation of racism.

PPPFFFTHAHAHA 
i almost lost my friendship, when i called him the Ndig.
he punched me in the gut. well deserved. still called him a *bzzz* afterwards, again, though. oh being young and racist.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: moonrockmushy] 1
#19247775 - 12/08/13 10:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: The thing is there are no distinct groups. There is no such thing as racial purity, and we are all equally evolved as we all originate from the same point (unless you believe in aliens or religion or time travel or something else non-mainstream). The basis of race is that there are distinct groups. Maybe there are but it is soo much more complicated than black and white, or the 7 or so races that people use to group people. Those categories have no proven connection to human behavior in terms of genetics.
I have to think that people who use race to explain someone's behavior have a hard time conceptualizing the way genetics works, or they are just downright arrogant.
In my mind it does more harm than good, like so far that I don't get how other people buy into it. If anything a more limited genetic pool is a disadvantage. That is kinda a big part of how we evolve and change with our environment, trying out new and different things.
Yeah it's not that there aren't going to be some identifiable trends going on correlating human genetics and geographic origin, but the borders of proposed racial divisions are always going to be arbitrary. Attempting to associate cognitive and behavioral traits directly with these broad categories of ancestry is difficult because you can't just raise babies in some perfectly neutral environment to eliminate culture as a variable. Even if you do demonstrate these things to be true on average with solid science, the variations between individuals of the same grouping are vast.
Someone made an analogy to dog breeds earlier. Looking at pedigreed dogs, the reason for the sharp distinctions is a planned aversion to outbreeding enforced by bureaucracy and paperwork. In the absence of this imposed "purity" metric it all falls apart. "Pit bulls" are often considered from a legal standpoint to be dogs that appear roughly similar to other dogs that are considered to be pit bulls. That's more or less where we're at with race. A few characteristics like skin tone, facial features, hair texture etc are considered and you are lumped in with whoever looks similar. In reality humans have always been fucking neighboring dissimilar looking people even where taboos against this exist, and someone who matches a broad visual description pretty well doesn't necessarily have a homogenous background.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Legend]
#20462306 - 08/22/14 10:02 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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not enuf, its cuz of all the racist conservutivs
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: morrowasted]
#20462319 - 08/22/14 10:03 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I said one... unless you're trying for that ban
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#20462338 - 08/22/14 10:08 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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their they go again abusing there powur n exposing theyre h8
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: morrowasted]
#20462343 - 08/22/14 10:09 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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neway i pick this 1
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: Dork]
#20496734 - 08/30/14 08:37 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dork said: as are midgets. there are no blacks or midgets on the shroomery
Let alone black midgets.
I personally think that one reason there isnt a larger amount og blacks on here is culture differences. The majority of blacks I know live in cities. They do smoke weed and some of them do cocaine/crack. Ive yet to meet one that even gives a shit about shrooms, acid, or cacti.
Though they may be starting to like mdma and other things of that sort. Just not full blown hallucinogenic substances. Possibly pcp but there has never been a lot of that in my area.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: evileye001]
#20496771 - 08/30/14 08:51 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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You can never have too many black people.
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Re: how many black people are on the shroomery? [Re: CosmicFillee]
#20496845 - 08/30/14 09:17 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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CosmicFillee said: You can never have too many black people.
Not just blacks but any race. It helps create cultural diversity.
Without it we wouldnt have a lot of the things we know and love. Just look at all the different drugs out there. If we werent culturally diverse white people wouldnt know about let alone have access to most of it. Especially those that have been used as tradition for thousands of years.
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