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OfflineKozzieButt
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Shall I do shroomies again?
    #19234304 - 12/05/13 10:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Okay I think it's very important to be as honest as I can about Shroomies so I will try, any thoughts from anyone more experienced on the topic would be appreciated. :smile:
The first time I took shroomies I was at Woodford folk festival in Woodford QLD, the trip was beuatiful and I found myself (because I was surrounded by a big group of established girls) crying out of lonliness, which I think was very beautiful because I generally just swallow these feelings and become numb, jelous or even bitter. The second time I tripped, it started nicely but I was overwhelmed with a horrible black almost demonic feeling that I had completely destoyed my conciousness. I was burned quite badly in a house fire, and I have facial scars, I am often stared at in situations where most people can happily stay comfortable. The bad trip started when my friend and I wandered into a campsite full of hot guys. I have in the past, when experimenting with marijuana been made to feel like a complete and utter disgusting inhumane beast. This feeling of not only being of low social value but something that does not deserve to even be looked at is something that I know is irrational but I don't really know how to deal with it. The worst part is that when I am commpletely in the depths of this darkness I feel too repulsive to reach out for help.

Question is.. I am going to Woodford on boxing day and my friends plan to take shroomies, there are times when this feels like the right thing to do wholly and completely, but say right now, as I feel quite anxious the though of doing it makes me anxious.I really still feel compelled to do it, I really want to explore myself and find the place I found on my first trip, inhabiting my body, respecting myself and knowing that the things that happen to me are not my fault and that I deserve love and that I am worthy. But if I start to feel worthless I become shallow and close off my heart and I'm not sure if I could handle another bad trip. I know that each trip is teaching each person something and if I am in a bad place it is because I need to overcome an untruthful belief, and I know that if I felt vulnerable or ostracized from my friends that I wouldn't take mushrooms, but if I did feel a sense of companionship or if I did feel good about myself (which I do sometimes haha) do you think it would be okay to take a low dose and explore this feeling?

I am a single mummy who lives alone with my child (who will not be coming to Woodford btw haha) So I think that my feelings of being alone or different are a rational adaptation to the circumstances of my life but I have not grown for the past year, I have been shallow and closed off and I do not know how to inhabit myself anymore, is it ridiculous to assume that shroomies will help me do this?

Also I am not a complete wreck as this post would suggest lol, when I am flowing with people I feel like a normal person, I feel like a normal person alot and I am merely describing a feeling that afflicts me sometimes, in situations where it is probably only human to feel this way. Any thoughts on this matter would be appreciated.
Thanks you so much shroomery community :smile::)


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Re: Shall I do shroomies again? [Re: KozzieButt]
    #19235190 - 12/06/13 04:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Before anything: if you don't feel comfortable doing it, then don't do it. Personally I wouldnt even consider it when I have a worried mind, and only do it when i'm feeling good and am in good company.

aside from that I don't really like doing mushrooms around non-users so personally I think festivals are not really the best place for it. What I think is much better is to go with some friends to an isolated place in nature on a sunny day with no non-shrooming people around. and considering your story I think this might work out better for you as well :smile:


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Re: Shall I do shroomies again? [Re: Wowbagger]
    #19235328 - 12/06/13 06:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Last time I was at Woodford it was having thoughts about the people around me that set me off onto a bad trip.
I think it would definitely be better if it was just myself and my friends but opportunities like this seldom present themselves now that I am a mother lol.
But I know exactly what you mean.

I guess I am worried that I will be overcome by worries like that, they come without warning and it's very hard to get out of thoughts like that, but I guess at the same time somtimes it doesn't bother me, so my trip depends on how much I let these things bother me.
I know I could handle it right now but other times I couldn't lol.

I guess what I am hoping is that through exploring in a higher state I can find some truth, or get some leverage over the way I think so that these mindsets (which I've known are irrational for some time now) lose their grip on me.
Ya know? haha
Or do I sound like a total basketcase? haha


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Re: Shall I do shroomies again? [Re: KozzieButt]
    #19235600 - 12/06/13 09:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If an opportunity doesn't present itself you can always create one, just ask one of your friends if he/she's up for it!

as for the festival I see no harm trying again as long as you feel comfortable. if on the moment itself you're having doubts just tell your friends you rather not join, they'll surely understand.

I always get a bit anxious as well when there are non-shroomers aroud me when i'm tripping. They appear to me as dark objects that radiate negativity and it feels like they are judging you for everything you do and are. The most important thing is not to focus on this negativity but approach it positively instead. and if that doesn't work just tell your friend you rather go somewhere else, my experience is that shroomers are generally quite easy to convince :laugh:

so basically what I mean is yes, do try it again. But now that you know what to expect you can create the right setting for a good trip.

P.S. you are on a forum for psychedelics, you'll have to try a lot harder to sound like a basketcase :laugh:


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Re: Shall I do shroomies again? [Re: KozzieButt]
    #19250678 - 12/09/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

KozzieButt said:
Last time I was at Woodford it was having thoughts about the people around me that set me off onto a bad trip.
I think it would definitely be better if it was just myself and my friends but opportunities like this seldom present themselves now that I am a mother lol.
But I know exactly what you mean.

I guess I am worried that I will be overcome by worries like that, they come without warning and it's very hard to get out of thoughts like that, but I guess at the same time somtimes it doesn't bother me, so my trip depends on how much I let these things bother me.
I know I could handle it right now but other times I couldn't lol.

I guess what I am hoping is that through exploring in a higher state I can find some truth, or get some leverage over the way I think so that these mindsets (which I've known are irrational for some time now) lose their grip on me.
Ya know? haha
Or do I sound like a total basketcase? haha




Thats gonna be hard around alot of non trippers(or one ftm), its harder to direct the trip and your thoughts with so much external worries. As someone suggested go into the woods with a couple good friends, experience the wonders of nature then go back to a comfortable place for the cosmic insights and self location. Main thing is to be happy going in, when in doubt go without.

And no you dont sound like a basket case, wether that means you arent or im one myself i dont know lol:grin:


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Re: Shall I do shroomies again? [Re: blackmilk]
    #19250682 - 12/09/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No. You should do mushrooms or shrooms like a grown-up.


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Re: Shall I do shroomies again? [Re: Me_Roy]
    #19252497 - 12/09/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Set and setting really matter. I'd avoid tripping in a situation that could get uncomfortable.

That said, you look quite nice in your picture (if you don't mind me noticing).


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Re: Shall I do shroomies again? [Re: Me_Roy]
    #19252538 - 12/09/13 08:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I can say this with confidence- tripping will give anyone, no matter how experience, at least some semblance of apprehension. It's the name of the game. It's you're brain warning you to be careful, so promise yourself just that and enjoy your ride.


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Re: Shall I do shroomies again? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #19253274 - 12/09/13 11:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sweetheart you just need a good environment to trip out with some good friends.

And if you really want to trip on the festival day, you just have to overcome that idea of you being worthless. Becuase the true fact is that, no one cares if you have scars, you are still a human. Just enjoy the ride and dont fight it. As i learn from people, once you learn not to give a shit about yourself (appearence wise) and just in general, you'll have a better trip/life. Don't let your past discourge you, in fact, use it to your advantage.

If you decide to do it, i hope you have a good trip!!


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Re: Shall I do shroomies again? [Re: experimentalkid]
    #19256022 - 12/10/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

experimentalkid said:
Sweetheart you just need a good environment to trip out with some good friends.

And if you really want to trip on the festival day, you just have to overcome that idea of you being worthless. Becuase the true fact is that, no one cares if you have scars, you are still a human. Just enjoy the ride and dont fight it. As i learn from people, once you learn not to give a shit about yourself (appearence wise) and just in general, you'll have a better trip/life. Don't let your past discourge you, in fact, use it to your advantage.

If you decide to do it, i hope you have a good trip!!




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Re: Shall I do shroomies again? [Re: Me_Roy]
    #19256799 - 12/10/13 06:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I dont do any shrooms with anybody I am not comfortable letting go in front of. Its tends to drive the anxiety and drive one down into the paradoxial place we sometimes get sucked down into. In that even I put on the headphones and blast some femal vocal dubstep and let the music take me back and feel my way out of the dark and back into the positive vibrations and beautiful colors.

I say do it if your in a good mind set and around friends you trust.


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Re: Shall I do shroomies again? [Re: 06tekos]
    #19257085 - 12/10/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hey, I have an unusual looking face as well (though very different - it's partially paralyzed and was operated on a lot of times) and it has been a reason for much insecurity for longer than I would admit.

Psychedelics have actually helped me with this. I ended up staring at myself in a mirror for a long long time on acid and the way I see myself was forever changed.

At first I could see how people would see me when they had never seen my face before. After that, my reflection started to resemble how people who have known me for a long time see me. All the scars and asymmetry diminished and I started to see a lot of expression and energy in my eyes that totally compensated the unability to move my eyebrow and mouth.

After the trip, I managed to love the uniqueness and one of a kind ways of expression of my face for the very first time.

I used to look at the asymmetry and the scars when I looked in the mirror but now I look myself in the eyes and smile.

If I were you, and you are as interested in self exploration as you mentioned, I would fly solo.

Trip alone and in a safe setting.

Shrooms are healing (although in this case it may have been acid). :heart:


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