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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: LordSenate]
    #19233169 - 12/05/13 08:25 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

the circumstances seem pretty reasonable to me.


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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: k00laid] * 1
    #19233178 - 12/05/13 08:27 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

*should i get involved in this threa-- NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!*


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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19233181 - 12/05/13 08:28 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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it was a really high profile case

http://abcnews.go.com/US/okla-mom-face-charges-victims-accomplice/story?id=15304382





So high profile nobody heard of it.  It also seems this is to a specific Oklahoma statute, so unless you can prove this is a common charge, then I'm calling B.S.





sweet jumping jesus... you're right, america is free of crazy charges

in most states there's a law that allows for people to be charged with
murder if there's a death while you're committing a crime. it's common
knowledge and the 'case no one has heard of' maybe if you spent your time
reading about shit as opposed to bumpin' your gums, you might not have to
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: k00laid]
    #19233189 - 12/05/13 08:29 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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k00laid said:
the circumstances seem pretty reasonable to me.




Join the police force, you'll fit right in.


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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19233196 - 12/05/13 08:30 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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in most states there's a law that allows for people to be charged with murder if there's a death while you're committing a crime.




While committing a crime, or while committing a felony?

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maybe if you spent your time reading about shit as opposed to bumpin' your gums




I could say the same thing about you.  Some non-story from Oklahoma isn't showing up on anything I'm reading about, however.


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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: LordSenate]
    #19233197 - 12/05/13 08:30 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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k00laid said:
the circumstances seem pretty reasonable to me.




Join the police force, you'll fit right in.





yeah you should always wait to see what they pull out of their pocket first.


keep straw manning.


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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: k00laid]
    #19233214 - 12/05/13 08:33 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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the cops just fucked up and went crazy.




i think it's reasonable to shoot someone who is resisting arrest, and then reaches for something in their pocket.





I think it is too, but like you, I think those cops need some hand gun
training, it's not the first time that NYC cops have shot the innocent
bystanders and not the suspect


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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: k00laid]
    #19233215 - 12/05/13 08:33 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

well, when alot of ... oh no... not like this... not like this...



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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: k00laid]
    #19233227 - 12/05/13 08:35 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah.. I've been in those type of situations.. That's what I can safely say that the risk of shooting at someone before they even got close to pulling anything out is riskier then waiting like I said, a millisecond tops to see what the fuck is going on. It's not that difficult.

I guess if you're a police officer that jumps at the drop of a pin or shoots just because they can, that might fly.  But for anyone else that has any types of rules of engagement that shit won't fly.


As I said more often then not when a police officer fires at someone because they "saw" a weapon, or "thought" they were reaching for one, they usually don't have one. I also believe that the fallout from them doing those things is more costly then trying to be "safe"


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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: LordSenate]
    #19233235 - 12/05/13 08:36 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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That's what I can safely say that the risk of shooting at someone before they even got close to pulling anything out is riskier then waiting





this is beyond ANY kind of logic man has ever come up with.

please elaborate.

you're a leading us into a new era of logic.


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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: LordSenate]
    #19233239 - 12/05/13 08:37 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Military >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Police

you just have to look at the hierarchy to see that Police are like lesser gremlins; while the peeps that do the actual hard work aren't killing their homeland's people on a daily basis, based on being scared fools.


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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19233240 - 12/05/13 08:37 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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k00laid said:
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the cops just fucked up and went crazy.




i think it's reasonable to shoot someone who is resisting arrest, and then reaches for something in their pocket.





I think it is too, but like you, I think those cops need some hand gun
training, it's not the first time that NYC cops have shot the innocent
bystanders and not the suspect




Yeah, that is a good point too. If they are going to fire on someone preemptively they at least hit the fucking target and not an innocent bystander..

Call me crazy but I think firing at someone in the middle of New York is pretty idiotic, unless they obviously have a weapon and are endangering people (aside from trying to commit suicide by getting hit by a vehicle)


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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19233244 - 12/05/13 08:38 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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k00laid said:
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fapjack said:
the cops just fucked up and went crazy.




i think it's reasonable to shoot someone who is resisting arrest, and then reaches for something in their pocket.





I think it is too, but like you, I think those cops need some hand gun
training, it's not the first time that NYC cops have shot the innocent
bystanders and not the suspect




Well, they're so trigger happy that their trigger weights got jacked up so now when they actually need to shoot their weapons (unlike this situation), they end up missing because of the pull the action of pulling the trigger has.


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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: k00laid]
    #19233248 - 12/05/13 08:38 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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k00laid said:
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LordSenate said:
That's what I can safely say that the risk of shooting at someone before they even got close to pulling anything out is riskier then waiting





this is beyond ANY kind of logic man has ever come up with.

please elaborate.

you're a leading us into a new era of logic.



he just agreed with your assertions, and then you don't agree? are you postin' dirty today bra?


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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: k00laid]
    #19233257 - 12/05/13 08:40 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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k00laid said:
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LordSenate said:
That's what I can safely say that the risk of shooting at someone before they even got close to pulling anything out is riskier then waiting





this is beyond ANY kind of logic man has ever come up with.

please elaborate.

you're a leading us into a new era of logic.




Apparently you can't read..

How do you not see that its riskier? Did you not read this story?

Shoot a guy because they "thought" he had a gun... Hit two innocent civilians.. Turns out he didn't have a gun...

Does it need to be spelled out more?

This isn't an isolated case, this shit happens all the time. It might be a new era of logic, if you never use your brain to actually think through a situation. Especially making blind assumptions based on things you haven't experienced yourself. I could be jumping the gun but I have a sneaking suspicion that you've never been in a situation similar do this.


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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19233335 - 12/05/13 08:54 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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k00laid said:
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fapjack said:
the cops just fucked up and went crazy.




i think it's reasonable to shoot someone who is resisting arrest, and then reaches for something in their pocket.





I think it is too, but like you, I think those cops need some hand gun
training, it's not the first time that NYC cops have shot the innocent
bystanders and not the suspect




Neither of you live in NYC, shit works differently in this area.  They didn't even hit the fucker, and if you can't shoot for shit you better damn well make sure the guy has a gun.


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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: fapjack]
    #19233354 - 12/05/13 08:58 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Neither of you live in NYC, shit works differently in this area.  They didn't even hit the fucker, and if you can't shoot for shit you better damn well make sure the guy has a gun.




That's exactly what I'm trying to say.. Trying to save people from getting shot doesn't really work out when you end up being the one shooting them.


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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: LordSenate]
    #19233358 - 12/05/13 08:59 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

LOL yep

it's pretty obvious what the people in service to the Police forces are supposed to do... it's written on their Car's and everything.


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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19233366 - 12/05/13 09:01 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

This wouldn't have happened if the bystanders had guns to return fire on the police.


Wait...


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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #19233968 - 12/05/13 11:11 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

The Purge, coming to a state near you. Lol but really, bullets fly, people die. That's life


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