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OfflineJK7
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How can you explain it?
    #19233122 - 12/05/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I am new to this site so take it easy. I was wondering has anyone ever had really profound psychedelic experience and wanted to tell everyone what they are missing? I have showed the way to a few friends and I loved being the guy that introduced this to them. I just want everyone to know and never can explain it to someone who has not been there. It has really changed my life for the better. Hope others can relate.


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Re: How can you explain it? [Re: JK7]
    #19233134 - 12/05/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Welcome to the Shroomery :smile:


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Re: How can you explain it? [Re: Piecefillpath247]
    #19233142 - 12/05/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you for the warm welcome! I love this site!


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Re: How can you explain it? [Re: JK7]
    #19233283 - 12/05/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

And I dropped two of some white on white right when I posted that question. How did I just type this?:smile:


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Re: How can you explain it? [Re: JK7]
    #19233345 - 12/05/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I know that feeling of wanting to be helpful and tell the whole world. But the best thing to do is be discreet and not talk about it very much. Because if you talk about it too much you could attract the wrong attention. You don't want everyone going around saying "Hey! JK7 knows how to get illegal hallucinogens!"

Just remember to keep it low-key and stay safe my friend!


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Re: How can you explain it? [Re: blckmynnse8]
    #19233386 - 12/05/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Definitely the case with me too, and man I must have been quite irritating for those of my friends who weren't as interested as I was. It was gratifying, when they finally took that first step, and afterwards unanimously sort of went 'well we can see why you kept going on about it'.


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Re: How can you explain it? [Re: Ezuma]
    #19234598 - 12/05/13 11:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yay welcome to the shroomery. I know how you feel about wanting to tell people about these wonderful life changing experiences, it sucks that so many people are closed minded and brainwashed about psychedelics. I do enjoy spreading the love to people who already know how awesome they are though.


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Re: How can you explain it? [Re: blckmynnse8]
    #19234992 - 12/06/13 02:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

blckmynnse8 said:
I know that feeling of wanting to be helpful and tell the whole world. But the best thing to do is be discreet and not talk about it very much. Because if you talk about it too much you could attract the wrong attention. You don't want everyone going around saying "Hey! JK7 knows how to get illegal hallucinogens!"

Just remember to keep it low-key and stay safe my friend!




I completely agree. When I discovered the magic of psychedelics I wanted to run around and tell the whole world about it but even many of my close friends/acquaintances and family members had a negative attitude towards my "profound revelations". I believe that this is a combination of many different societal factors. Most of society still defaults to the idea that "all drugs are evil" and that anything associated with drugs must be bad.

Therefore, people will not understand how you have benefitted from these "horrible hallucinogenic substances" because they have not done psychedelics themselves and could not possibly comprehend the experience. Which leads me to my next point -- I believe that the psychedelic experience is an extremely individualized experience; it affects everyone differently and therefore relies on the perspective of the user much more so than other "drugs".

I'm always thinking about why most people hate psychedelics or write off my spiritual experiences as drug-induced  lunacy but it's not that hard to comprehend because psychedelics have been demonized by society and are vastly misunderstood throughout most of the world.

"Believe in yourself. Create your own destiny. Don't fear failure"  :buddhism:


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Re: How can you explain it? [Re: Nihon_Hyperspace]
    #19235025 - 12/06/13 03:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Welcome to shroomery, your right too, this site is brilliant.

I sure got a buzz when I introduced my Mrs to shrooms, they fixed her migraines for good :smile: now I'm a hero for ever.  My sons loved the experience and said "yeah its something everyone should know about".

blckmynnse8 said
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I know that feeling of wanting to be helpful and tell the whole world. But the best thing to do is be discreet and not talk about it very much. Because if you talk about it too much you could attract the wrong attention. You don't want everyone going around saying "Hey! JK7 knows how to get illegal hallucinogens!"

Just remember to keep it low-key and stay safe my friend!




Its sad it has to be like this. OK we know that psycadelic inebriation can put us in physical danger due to confusion etc and some people go crazy from excessive use, or that some people have existing tendency to sykosis or sciz brought on by psykz and should never indulge in the first place.  Its all down to responsibility and common sense really, and no way should it be demonized like it has been.


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Re: How can you explain it? [Re: JK7]
    #19235103 - 12/06/13 03:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

at the beginning, sharing the magic seems the right thing to do, (maybe you think you know what it is, but can't express it exactly unless with someone else who is equally stoned, and even then...)

As for the uninitiated, this can get complicated, and even dangerous - maybe less than 5% of people even want their dreams to be that alive while they are awake.

at the beginning we are like students, learning the way.

the beginning is best. being a student is best.


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Re: How can you explain it? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19235505 - 12/06/13 08:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

redgreenvines said:
the beginning is best. being a student is best.




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Re: How can you explain it? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #19235812 - 12/06/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Every one of yall make a great point. I had an epic night with a friend last night and added to the list of experiences. Every time is a great time and life changing in some way. I know exactly what yall mean by keeping it low key. Its frustrating but I have learned to keep it in because living in the south with a church on every corner is not a good place to talk about it. Its all a sad notion because around this place everyone is super closed minded and super judgmental. Has anyone found physics more appealing since you stepped over to the other side?


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Re: How can you explain it? [Re: JK7]
    #19235840 - 12/06/13 10:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I am just open about my experiences, give concrete examples of how I gained from it. Still, most people get interested but will not dive in. I don't push it on them, if they are ready, they will find you.


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Re: How can you explain it? [Re: JK7]
    #19235888 - 12/06/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I met my group of tripper friends at a house party.  I was fucked up on shrooms and was chattering about how everything is connected to myself, and they wanted to know more.  The more I tried to explain the other side, the less sense it made.  Two weeks later, I tripped with the same people, and we reached this glorious understanding together.

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JK7 said:
Has anyone found physics more appealing since you stepped over to the other side?




I've always loved space and the idea that we can look outwardly in this never ending universe where our observable universe is, while at the same time being able to look inwardly equally infinitely at the particles that make up this magical and mysterious place.

I've already begun to make plan to take a shroom trip as far from the city as possible - I want to see the band of stars across the sky.




I feel that since stepping over I've had to make some choices in life, and I have lost a couple friends along the way but I don't feel burdened by it.  I feel free, and enlightened though, I have no regrets.


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Our hero becomes trapped in his own peaceful place which immediately becomes his sanctuary.
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Re: How can you explain it? [Re: shroomy stan]
    #19236461 - 12/06/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That would be a super awesome view and bad ass pic. I would love to see the Northern lights while tripping.Tripping with friends is a great thing if handled the right way. I love talking about any and everything with a group of friends that also use it for the right reasons. I say that because I feel that some people take it to get fucked up as if it were a drug. How can it be labeled as that? Natural fungi including ergot can reveal some amazing possibilities ,and I have no business with people who do not use it as a tool. So much knowledge to be gained ,and when the mind opens so much can be taken in.


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Re: How can you explain it? [Re: JK7]
    #19236820 - 12/06/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I have no business with people who do not use it as a tool.




:whathesaid:


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Re: How can you explain it? [Re: Nihon_Hyperspace]
    #19236850 - 12/06/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Nihon_Hyperspace said:
Quote:

blckmynnse8 said:
I know that feeling of wanting to be helpful and tell the whole world. But the best thing to do is be discreet and not talk about it very much. Because if you talk about it too much you could attract the wrong attention. You don't want everyone going around saying "Hey! JK7 knows how to get illegal hallucinogens!"

Just remember to keep it low-key and stay safe my friend!




I completely agree. When I discovered the magic of psychedelics I wanted to run around and tell the whole world about it but even many of my close friends/acquaintances and family members had a negative attitude towards my "profound revelations". I believe that this is a combination of many different societal factors. Most of society still defaults to the idea that "all drugs are evil" and that anything associated with drugs must be bad.

Therefore, people will not understand how you have benefitted from these "horrible hallucinogenic substances" because they have not done psychedelics themselves and could not possibly comprehend the experience. Which leads me to my next point -- I believe that the psychedelic experience is an extremely individualized experience; it affects everyone differently and therefore relies on the perspective of the user much more so than other "drugs".

I'm always thinking about why most people hate psychedelics or write off my spiritual experiences as drug-induced  lunacy but it's not that hard to comprehend because psychedelics have been demonized by society and are vastly misunderstood throughout most of the world.

"Believe in yourself. Create your own destiny. Don't fear failure"  :buddhism:




Yes, the best way is to be a living example. If people ask you what helped you improve the quality of your life then that is a good place to begin a conversation.


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Re: How can you explain it? [Re: JK7]
    #19236884 - 12/06/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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JK7 said:
I have no business with people who do not use it as a tool



You sound like a LOT of fun. I'm going to throw everyone who doesn't use drugs like I do into a group and not associate with them... Oh wait, no I won't because that's retarded.
:zaphod:

You probably only have sex to reproduce, right?


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Re: How can you explain it? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #19236966 - 12/06/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not speaking for OP but for myself as I quoted his statement for truth.

I don't judge people that use drugs differently than I do.

I just find it very hard to trip with those who have different opinions or expectations of a drug than I do.

That is all.


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Re: How can you explain it? [Re: GoldenEye]
    #19237946 - 12/06/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You're right goldeneye. I never judge anyone for doing their thing ,but I can not be expected to hang around someone that uses it in a different way because it can distract me from my personal achievements. Modest mouse, you have it wrong because I can definitely seek pleasure with it without getting shit faced. I am saying some people are abusing what benefits me ,and that's one reason it has a bad rep.


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