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Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders
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For the crime of being difficult to shoot, a Manhattan grand jury has charged an unarmed, mentally unstable man with assault after police officers opened fire at him, missed, and wounded two bystanders as the man was blocking traffic last September in Times Square.
On September 14, Glenn Broadnax walked into the crowded streets of Times Square and jumped in front of several oncoming cars, apparently in an attempt to get run over. NYPD officers tried to take the 250-lb Broadnax into custody, but he resisted and, according to police, reached into his pocket. Two NYPD officers thought he might be reaching for a gun, and, in order to protect the thousands of innocent bystanders in Times Square, fired their service weapons at Broadnax. But the officers missed and wounded two innocent bystanders instead. Broadnax was eventually subdued with a Taser.
At first, police charged Broadnax with menacing, drug possession, and resisting arrest, but the Manhattan District Attorney pushed for assault charges because Broadnax "recklessly engaged in conduct which created a grave risk of death."
"The defendant is the one that created the situation that injured innocent bystanders," assistant district attorney, Shannon Lucey, told the New York Times.
That's one way to look at it. Here's another, from Mariann Wang, the lawyer representing one of the woman shot by the NYPD. "It's an incredibly unfortunate use of prosecutorial discretion to be prosecuting a man who didn't even injure my client," Wang said. "It's the police who injured my client."
Broadnax, who, at the time of the incident, believed he was talking to dead relatives, according to the statement he gave police, is being held on $100,000 bail and faces a maximum sentence of 25 years. "Mr. Broadnax never imagined his behavior would ever cause the police to shoot at him," Rigodis Appling, his attorney, said, adding that a disoriented Broadnax was reaching for his wallet, not a gun, when the officers opened fire.
"The only thing the individual had on his person was a wallet which was recovered from his right rear pocket," Police Commissioner Ray Kelly told reporters after the shooting.
The two officers have been placed on administrative leave pending separate investigations from the NYPD and the District Attorney.
http://gawker.com/unarmed-man-charged-with-assault-after-nypd-shoots-two-1477036868
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Synthe]
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What the fuck is up with New York lately.
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: VivaLaMushie]
#19232905 - 12/05/13 05:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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VivaLaMushie said: What the fuck is up with New York lately.
new york isnt doing anything that other states/cities arent doing. it's not an unusual charge, if you and a friend are walking one night, your friend decides to rob a house and you dont make a reasonable attempt to stop him, the home owner shoots your friend, even though you were never armed and never entered the house, you can be charged with the death of your friend
this happened just a few years ago
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
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VivaLaMushie said: What the fuck is up with New York lately.
new york isnt doing anything that other states/cities arent doing. it's not an unusual charge, if you and a friend are walking one night, your friend decides to rob a house and you dont make a reasonable attempt to stop him, the home owner shoots your friend, even though you were never armed and never entered the house, you can be charged with the death of your friend
this happened just a few years ago
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Mush4Brains]
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VivaLaMushie said: What the fuck is up with New York lately.
new york isnt doing anything that other states/cities arent doing. it's not an unusual charge, if you and a friend are walking one night, your friend decides to rob a house and you dont make a reasonable attempt to stop him, the home owner shoots your friend, even though you were never armed and never entered the house, you can be charged with the death of your friend
this happened just a few years ago
Link?
it was a really high profile case
http://abcnews.go.com/US/okla-mom-face-charges-victims-accomplice/story?id=15304382
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Prisoner#1]
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I'm sorry but you shouldn't be reaching in your pocket while resisting arrest after attempting suicide.
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: VivaLaMushie]
#19232953 - 12/05/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Pureless]
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Pureless said: I'm sorry but you shouldn't be reaching in your pocket while resisting arrest after attempting suicide. 
correct.
cops shouldn't miss either.
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Prisoner#1]
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it was a really high profile case
http://abcnews.go.com/US/okla-mom-face-charges-victims-accomplice/story?id=15304382
So high profile nobody heard of it. It also seems this is to a specific Oklahoma statute, so unless you can prove this is a common charge, then I'm calling B.S.
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Pureless]
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Pureless said: I'm sorry but you shouldn't be reaching in your pocket while resisting arrest after attempting suicide. 
Tell that to the 2 innocent bystanders that got shot for no reason. I'm sure they'd agree with you.
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Mush4Brains]
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If it made the news, that's pretty high profile.
Nonetheless, the situation in that case isn't exactly as Pris described.
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Enlil]
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Enlil]
#19233030 - 12/05/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: RockyRaccoon]
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Tell that to the 2 innocent bystanders that got shot for no reason. I'm sure they'd agree with you.
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Pureless]
#19233054 - 12/05/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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they were walking down the street.
a man resisted arrest and they got shot.
thats the reason
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: k00laid]
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they were walking down the street.
a man resisted arrest and they got shot.
thats the reason
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Pureless]
#19233078 - 12/05/13 06:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pureless said: I'm sorry but you shouldn't be reaching in your pocket while resisting arrest after attempting suicide. 
Are you incapable of reading? If someone is "mentally unstable" as stated in the article there is a large chance that they won't be thinking properly.. Not to mention that if someone just tried to get hit by a vehicle the fact they aren't all there, should be readily apparent.
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not.. I really hope you are.
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Prisoner#1]
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VivaLaMushie said: What the fuck is up with New York lately.
new york isnt doing anything that other states/cities arent doing. it's not an unusual charge, if you and a friend are walking one night, your friend decides to rob a house and you dont make a reasonable attempt to stop him, the home owner shoots your friend, even though you were never armed and never entered the house, you can be charged with the death of your friend
this happened just a few years ago
Link?
it was a really high profile case
http://abcnews.go.com/US/okla-mom-face-charges-victims-accomplice/story?id=15304382
It didn't happen in NYC, and NYC is totally different than other cities. NYC has an exceptionally large # of mentally unstable people, and you literally see crazy people on every other block. What this guy did happens every other day in NYC, the cops just fucked up and went crazy. He should be in a mental health hospital, but stupid pigs were trigger happy.
Cops in NYC vary from really laid back don't give a shit types, to incompetent assholes which is what happens when you have 35k cops, many of which are 140 pounds soaking wet. Its like they hire anyone that walks in the door...
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: fapjack]
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fapjack said: the cops just fucked up and went crazy.
i think it's reasonable to shoot someone who is resisting arrest, and then reaches for something in their pocket.
it's also reasonable to shoot someone who is breaking and entering your home.
now if i was shooting my gun in self defense, and i missed and hit my neighbor, would i get a paid vacation and the charges put only on the intruder?
nope.
but the cops can miss, get paid vacations, and blame the man resisting arrest for their incompetency with their firearms
i think everyone is missing the point here
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: k00laid]
#19233160 - 12/05/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's reasonable depending on the circumstances. But as is often the case, police jump at the chance to use again whether or not its justified.
If he just tried to kill himself then he obviously is having mental issues.. That in and of itself isn't reason to start shooting.. Pulling something out of his pocket might be.. But honestly that milli second it takes to even get a tiny glimpse that it might be a gun good make every big of difference.. Some people might say thats too long, well it is a hell of a lot safer then shooting at someone that MIGHT be pulling out a gun (without seeing anything), and shooting a bunch of innocent people...
But yeah, essentially other then what I said, I agree with you.. The cops are retarded for firing there weapons in a crowded area... The district attorney is even worse for even trying to do this charge... I highly doubt it will walk and either way cost tax payers money for something that is going to cost money anyways when the city pays out to the wounded civilians.
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: LordSenate]
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the circumstances seem pretty reasonable to me.
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: k00laid] 1
#19233178 - 12/05/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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*should i get involved in this threa-- NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!*
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19233181 - 12/05/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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it was a really high profile case
http://abcnews.go.com/US/okla-mom-face-charges-victims-accomplice/story?id=15304382
So high profile nobody heard of it. It also seems this is to a specific Oklahoma statute, so unless you can prove this is a common charge, then I'm calling B.S.
sweet jumping jesus... you're right, america is free of crazy charges
in most states there's a law that allows for people to be charged with murder if there's a death while you're committing a crime. it's common knowledge and the 'case no one has heard of' maybe if you spent your time reading about shit as opposed to bumpin' your gums, you might not have to try and 'disprove' something you're clueless about
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: k00laid]
#19233189 - 12/05/13 06:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Join the police force, you'll fit right in.
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Prisoner#1]
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in most states there's a law that allows for people to be charged with murder if there's a death while you're committing a crime.
While committing a crime, or while committing a felony?
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maybe if you spent your time reading about shit as opposed to bumpin' your gums
I could say the same thing about you. Some non-story from Oklahoma isn't showing up on anything I'm reading about, however.
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: LordSenate]
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Join the police force, you'll fit right in.
yeah you should always wait to see what they pull out of their pocket first.
keep straw manning.
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: k00laid]
#19233214 - 12/05/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i think it's reasonable to shoot someone who is resisting arrest, and then reaches for something in their pocket.
I think it is too, but like you, I think those cops need some hand gun training, it's not the first time that NYC cops have shot the innocent bystanders and not the suspect
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: k00laid]
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well, when alot of ... oh no... not like this... not like this...
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: k00laid]
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Yeah.. I've been in those type of situations.. That's what I can safely say that the risk of shooting at someone before they even got close to pulling anything out is riskier then waiting like I said, a millisecond tops to see what the fuck is going on. It's not that difficult.
I guess if you're a police officer that jumps at the drop of a pin or shoots just because they can, that might fly. But for anyone else that has any types of rules of engagement that shit won't fly.
As I said more often then not when a police officer fires at someone because they "saw" a weapon, or "thought" they were reaching for one, they usually don't have one. I also believe that the fallout from them doing those things is more costly then trying to be "safe"
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: LordSenate]
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LordSenate said: That's what I can safely say that the risk of shooting at someone before they even got close to pulling anything out is riskier then waiting
this is beyond ANY kind of logic man has ever come up with.
please elaborate.
you're a leading us into a new era of logic.
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: LordSenate]
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Military >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Police
you just have to look at the hierarchy to see that Police are like lesser gremlins; while the peeps that do the actual hard work aren't killing their homeland's people on a daily basis, based on being scared fools.
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Prisoner#1]
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i think it's reasonable to shoot someone who is resisting arrest, and then reaches for something in their pocket.
I think it is too, but like you, I think those cops need some hand gun training, it's not the first time that NYC cops have shot the innocent bystanders and not the suspect
Yeah, that is a good point too. If they are going to fire on someone preemptively they at least hit the fucking target and not an innocent bystander..
Call me crazy but I think firing at someone in the middle of New York is pretty idiotic, unless they obviously have a weapon and are endangering people (aside from trying to commit suicide by getting hit by a vehicle)
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Prisoner#1]
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i think it's reasonable to shoot someone who is resisting arrest, and then reaches for something in their pocket.
I think it is too, but like you, I think those cops need some hand gun training, it's not the first time that NYC cops have shot the innocent bystanders and not the suspect
Well, they're so trigger happy that their trigger weights got jacked up so now when they actually need to shoot their weapons (unlike this situation), they end up missing because of the pull the action of pulling the trigger has.
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: k00laid]
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this is beyond ANY kind of logic man has ever come up with.
please elaborate.
you're a leading us into a new era of logic.
he just agreed with your assertions, and then you don't agree? are you postin' dirty today bra?
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: k00laid]
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this is beyond ANY kind of logic man has ever come up with.
please elaborate.
you're a leading us into a new era of logic.
Apparently you can't read..
How do you not see that its riskier? Did you not read this story?
Shoot a guy because they "thought" he had a gun... Hit two innocent civilians.. Turns out he didn't have a gun...
Does it need to be spelled out more?
This isn't an isolated case, this shit happens all the time. It might be a new era of logic, if you never use your brain to actually think through a situation. Especially making blind assumptions based on things you haven't experienced yourself. I could be jumping the gun but I have a sneaking suspicion that you've never been in a situation similar do this.
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: Prisoner#1]
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i think it's reasonable to shoot someone who is resisting arrest, and then reaches for something in their pocket.
I think it is too, but like you, I think those cops need some hand gun training, it's not the first time that NYC cops have shot the innocent bystanders and not the suspect
Neither of you live in NYC, shit works differently in this area. They didn't even hit the fucker, and if you can't shoot for shit you better damn well make sure the guy has a gun.
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: fapjack]
#19233354 - 12/05/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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fapjack said: Neither of you live in NYC, shit works differently in this area. They didn't even hit the fucker, and if you can't shoot for shit you better damn well make sure the guy has a gun.
That's exactly what I'm trying to say.. Trying to save people from getting shot doesn't really work out when you end up being the one shooting them.
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akira_akuma
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: LordSenate]
#19233358 - 12/05/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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LOL yep
it's pretty obvious what the people in service to the Police forces are supposed to do... it's written on their Car's and everything.
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The Ecstatic
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: akira_akuma]
#19233366 - 12/05/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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This wouldn't have happened if the bystanders had guns to return fire on the police.
Wait...
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Re: Unarmed Man Charged With Assault After NYPD Shoots 2 Bystanders [Re: The Ecstatic]
#19233968 - 12/05/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Purge, coming to a state near you. Lol but really, bullets fly, people die. That's life
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