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Invisibleteknix
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Re: been having issues with grain [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19210567 - 11/30/13 11:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You have no idea what you are talking about, sorry.


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Re: been having issues with grain [Re: tripdawg420]
    #19210580 - 11/30/13 11:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I have never boiled, simmered, etc. just a 24hr soak and into the strainer until I can run my hand through the grains and barely any stick. Never had any issues. But different things work for different people. personally I would never put verm in my grain jars... especially if it's being used for spawn.


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Re: been having issues with grain [Re: Mr.Colorado]
    #19210587 - 11/30/13 11:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No shit, grains grow just fine without a dry verm layer, lol.


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Re: been having issues with grain [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19210593 - 11/30/13 11:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Why is he trolling? Experienced people tend to know shortcuts and tricks mang.


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Re: been having issues with grain [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #19210637 - 11/30/13 11:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Sulfurshelfsean said:
Why is he trolling? Experienced people tend to know shortcuts and tricks mang.




Sure not debating that. But this forum has a lot of lurkers and new growers. The things that he is suggesting that are not fully explained are going to lead new growers down a path called fail. At any rate growing out a pf jar to inoculate grains does not seem easy or quick compared to many time tested methods.

In another thread he lays out a "tek" that he obviously threw together in 5 min, saying that one could sterilize a tray of field capacity brf mix in the oven, layered in boiled cardboard and inoculated with spawn and then cased all in one shot, as an easy way to do a tray. Sorry, but I find that inoculating a master with a clean wedge, G2G to a dozen quarts, then spawned to a proper sub in three 66 quart mono's a far easier and effective way to get mushies :shrug: I guess I just have an issue with doing things in a time tested manner, even if I was to advocate straying off the beaten path, I would have a log, explaining my hypothesis, with pics and results, done more than once, to make my point.

I'm already past it, whatever.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19210357/gonew/1#UNREAD


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Re: been having issues with grain [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19210645 - 11/30/13 11:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think you're a cop trying to milk pics along with your little buddy over there.

:cop:

Either that or someone's puppet.


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Re: been having issues with grain [Re: teknix]
    #19210671 - 11/30/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I think you're a cop trying to milk pics along with your little buddy over there.

:cop:




:lolsy:

I was thinking the same thing about you :shrug: Who's my little buddy? Maybe if people ever saw you around here they might take you more seriously. Nevermind, I have zero interest in seeing the results of your oven tek, I already got a pretty good idea how it ends.

In all seriousness, I really don't care enough to continue this lame argument. I don't know you from Adam and I'm not in the mood to start a fight. But if I start seeing people on these boards in 2 weeks complaining about how their oven brf cardboard bulk spawn tray didn't work, I'm just gonna tell them to :pm: you :thumbup:

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Re: been having issues with grain [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19210674 - 11/30/13 11:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What the hell are you talking about, I been here since 08 . You show up 4 years later thinking you know everything, rofl.

Maybe you can learn more in a year than I can in 5 years, but it doesn't seem likely considering your comments and remarks.


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Re: been having issues with grain [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19210697 - 11/30/13 11:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

True. Newcomers should be doing teks to the T in the beginning.


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Re: been having issues with grain [Re: teknix]
    #19210734 - 12/01/13 12:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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What the hell are you talking about, I been here since 08 . You show up 4 years later thinking you know everything, rofl.

Maybe you can learn more in a year than I can in 5 years, but it doesn't seem likely considering your comments and remarks.




First, the date that I signed up is not the day that I started to grow. Second, many people have a quick learning curve, I started agar after my first pf tek, well before I had an account. Third, I don't consider myself to be a mycological genius and never claimed I was one. Fourth, there are people on this site that have been around since 04 who have 40000 posts, and who have never grown a shroom in their life.

All I really ask is a little proof to some of your claims. Maybe I got a little outta hand before and for that I apologize. I really don't want to come across as a dick. I do have a hard time with some of the things you are suggesting. If your brf oven tray it really is something that you have done 100+ times and can be considered tried and true then please prove it. People would welcome something that easy. I personally like trays. They are great for little tests to see if you got a good monoculture or to do ms grows to clone from. I personally wouldn't use it, I like my agar and grains too much, but lots of other people are always on the lookout for new teks.

Anyway, sorry bout the horseshit, I probably should cut back on the liquor.
*attempts to bury hatchet*

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Re: been having issues with grain [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19210775 - 12/01/13 12:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't post incriminating pics, sorry.

*Considers hatchet buried*


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Re: been having issues with grain [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19231220 - 12/05/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

my lc were started from spore syringes from a trusted sponsor. i got to thinking it was from my lc's and tossed them. luckily i had back ups.


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Re: been having issues with grain [Re: teknix]
    #19231264 - 12/05/13 01:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i may try this with some of my cakes. i was just trying to work with grain. and i am used to working with lc, it just seems cleaner. since i dont have a flow hood or like working with glove boxes the cake to grain transfers or even g2g seem risky to me. and i hope i havent mislead anyone with my verm to over moist grain idea. i realize now i was trying to fix a problem that i myself created.


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