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VE3HPC
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Re: Shrooms and genetic predisposition to schizophrenia [Re: Hygrocybe]
#19229173 - 12/04/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey man, I don't know many people personally who are schizophrenic or who have a predisposition to it so this may be a little off topic but I do know many people who smoke pot, have tripped on shrooms, acid, LSA, DXM, party on extacy, and to the lesser degree certain rx type drugs. Myself, my wife, family members on all sides, very close friends, each to their own level of sanity (including myself) it seems most people I hang out with or even know for that matter, view doing certain substances with a very similar set of personal conditions and values before getting, quote "phucked up". Before the event of such a phuck, we ALWAYS make sure we have each other's backs by knowing that if we end up passing out, going crazy, having a bad fucking trip, etc, we started in a very familiar place and we know that it is as safe of an environment as possible for us to be completely inebriated. Now, in my own personal experience with psychedelics amongst my circle of friends and family, if it's mushrooms your concerned about doing, honestly smoking a blunt of good chronic does way more to put me in a crazy head funk than say 3 to 4 grams of mushrooms would to me or any of my friends. I seem to be able to control the trip on mushrooms better than with any other substance! It's why it is my favorite substance! It's just nothing you can imagine, you can only get there by getting there. Just my 2 cents! Closing point, just make sure you are around people and places you trust before trying anything new. It makes all the difference in the world!
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OnePerEyeM8
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Re: Shrooms and genetic predisposition to schizophrenia [Re: VE3HPC]
#19230003 - 12/05/13 04:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just proceed as carefully as you can. No one knows your mind anywhere near as well as you do. If it were me, I would probably start with a low dose, a gram or 1.5 at most, then see how it went and pay attention to my mental state as best I could for a week or two after.
Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen any actual support for the claim that psychedelics can trigger underlying schizophrenia. Can anyone link any legit articles or anything?
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RiparianZoneJunky
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Re: Shrooms and genetic predisposition to schizophrenia [Re: OnePerEyeM8]
#19230371 - 12/05/13 08:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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OnePerEyeM8 said: Just proceed as carefully as you can. No one knows your mind anywhere near as well as you do. If it were me, I would probably start with a low dose, a gram or 1.5 at most, then see how it went and pay attention to my mental state as best I could for a week or two after.
Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen any actual support for the claim that psychedelics can trigger underlying schizophrenia. Can anyone link any legit articles or anything?
I don't think there's any study and it would probably be hard to prove that those who took drugs then had a first break wouldn't have eventually had an episode without the drugs. That said, my best friends sister in high school did a bunch of acid and got into meth and she developed severe schizophrenia and is now living on the street whacked out of her mind. Could she have been a functional human being if she hadn't gotten into drugs so young? Maybe, maybe not. It's worth being careful when your mental health is at stake.
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Vaipen
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Re: Shrooms and genetic predisposition to schizophrenia [Re: HappyHooligan]
#19230449 - 12/05/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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HappyHooligan said: My boyfriend is always chill, I am only chill sometimes. He says I say a lot of stuff that he used to think when he was tripping off shrooms. but yeah I think weed brought it back. I'm a heavy smoker though, if that matters.
Can you give examples of what you are saying?
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HappyHooligan
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Re: Shrooms and genetic predisposition to schizophrenia [Re: Vaipen]
#19230771 - 12/05/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Vaipen said:
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HappyHooligan said: My boyfriend is always chill, I am only chill sometimes. He says I say a lot of stuff that he used to think when he was tripping off shrooms. but yeah I think weed brought it back. I'm a heavy smoker though, if that matters.
Can you give examples of what you are saying?
Visuals like I everything was breathing, and nothing was completely still, it was like I could see the very slow movements of the atoms in every object.
I often become aware of my bodily actions. I could feel all my blood circulating with every heartbeat, feel my hair & nails growing, feel electrical currents slowed down in my brain... and that's when I always feel like time itself slows down, or maybe I'm so fast, nothing can catch me. I start to get really arrogant, like I'm the ONLY one who is not bound by the illusion of time. I felt like I could be in that moment forever if I wanted to. One time I was strongly convinced that I had already died, and this was all some type of purgatory. Like I can TRY to think about that now, but when I was high, there was no arguing with me. I KNEW it was real. I could really hear members of my church singing in the background of my life... it was like I knew my body was somewhere in a coffin, and this life was the place for my soul after leaving my body. I tried not to panic at that time, because then I became really upset that I was actually dead.
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