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SamhainJ
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cleaning shrooms picked off a 50/50 casing?
#19230302 - 12/05/13 08:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Picked my first flush from cading, mushies have alot of 50/50 stuck to the stems.. how do you clean yours off efficently??
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Re: cleaning shrooms picked off a 50/50 casing? [Re: SamhainJ]
#19230306 - 12/05/13 08:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I use a cutting board and a sharp knife to cut off all the unwanted substrate material on the stems before putting them in the dehydrator.
You could also just dry them first and brush it off later.
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Re: cleaning shrooms picked off a 50/50 casing? [Re: PussyFart]
#19230327 - 12/05/13 08:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sounda like a good idea.. i finally smartened up and bought a dehydrator last night too!
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Re: cleaning shrooms picked off a 50/50 casing? [Re: SamhainJ]
#19230343 - 12/05/13 08:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can usually just brush it off. I hate to waste even a minuscule amount so I never cut the stems.
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Re: cleaning shrooms picked off a 50/50 casing? [Re: PussyFart]
#19230354 - 12/05/13 08:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
You could also just dry them first and brush it off later.
Toothbrush is my weapon of choice after dehydration.
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Toothbrush and a bit of water.
Only takes a few seconds per mushie. Easy for me since I'm still growing cakes. 
I may go to cutting when I get to tubs....
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SamhainJ
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Re: cleaning shrooms picked off a 50/50 casing? [Re: kratom_redmomd]
#19230419 - 12/05/13 09:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kratom, cakes are never a problem cleaning the shrooms, but with the 50/50 jiffy casing these are covered with peat/potting soil so they look dirty as hell! And i harvested quite a bit so i just filled up a paperbag and its gotten all over em lol
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Re: cleaning shrooms picked off a 50/50 casing? [Re: SamhainJ]
#19230425 - 12/05/13 09:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: cleaning shrooms picked off a 50/50 casing? [Re: SamhainJ]
#19230478 - 12/05/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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No water after dehydration. Just use a stiff toothbrush.
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Re: cleaning shrooms picked off a 50/50 casing? [Re: SamhainJ]
#19230531 - 12/05/13 09:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I always use a 50/50% mix of verm and peat for a casing layer (Coir/verm bulk), and my fruits always look like yours. I rip and pull, because I hate the blue stumps that are left after cutting. My fruits ALWAYS look like yours....rinse them off in the sink real quick to get the worst of it, and dehydrate. Once the fruits are dry, the casing mix will fall off with a bit of brushing.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19221326#19221326
Your method seems to really have delivered. If all them fruits came from a 8" x 8" you did exceptional.
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SamhainJ said: Im really surprised at the results bc alot of more advanced cultivators have said that casing will not increase yield from just fruiting cakes but this thing is covered.
Casing seems to increase total area AND total output versus straight grain/brf cake. You have more fruits from a cased "brf" than the cake would have yielded on the first flush. However I wonder how it would compare in the long haul. Will your tray fail to deliver a sizable 2nd flush? Would the cake have given similar yields kept by itself over its lifespan?
"Casing is not necessary for cubes" This is a common quote. I do respect it as fact. However this fact has caused most users to simply not use casing. Thank goodness for people like Frank Horrigan and Violet for really looking at casing methods, and compare to the current "methods".
Not a lot of users do 50/50 cased grows, and its nice to see a success. It also proves that there is more to a casing than simply a non-nutritional water bag.
Thanks for your post!
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I use a knife or scissors to gently scrape the casing off the bottom of the fruit body, typically a layer of flesh will come off along with it but that's ok. Then i just cut off the very bottom tip, maybe the bottom 1/8" or so of the fruit body.
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SamhainJ
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Whippy said: I always use a 50/50% mix of verm and peat for a casing layer (Coir/verm bulk), and my fruits always look like yours. I rip and pull, because I hate the blue stumps that are left after cutting. My fruits ALWAYS look like yours....rinse them off in the sink real quick to get the worst of it, and dehydrate. Once the fruits are dry, the casing mix will fall off with a bit of brushing.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19221326#19221326
Your method seems to really have delivered. If all them fruits came from a 8" x 8" you did exceptional.
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SamhainJ said: Im really surprised at the results bc alot of more advanced cultivators have said that casing will not increase yield from just fruiting cakes but this thing is covered.
Casing seems to increase total area AND total output versus straight grain/brf cake. You have more fruits from a cased "brf" than the cake would have yielded on the first flush. However I wonder how it would compare in the long haul. Will your tray fail to deliver a sizable 2nd flush? Would the cake have given similar yields kept by itself over its lifespan?
"Casing is not necessary for cubes" This is a common quote. I do respect it as fact. However this fact has caused most users to simply not use casing. Thank goodness for people like Frank Horrigan and Violet for really looking at casing methods, and compare to the current "methods".
Not a lot of users do 50/50 cased grows, and its nice to see a success. It also proves that there is more to a casing than simply a non-nutritional water bag.
Thanks for your post!
Yeah, ive been told it doesnt increase yield, but ive never gotten 160 grams fresh off a fruited cake, prob not even out of 4+ flushes..
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Re: cleaning shrooms picked off a 50/50 casing? [Re: SamhainJ]
#19230656 - 12/05/13 10:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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You've got a shit ton of casing on the bottom of your shrooms and you're weighing them.
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SamhainJ
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Weight is after picking as much as possible off with my hands before putting in dehydrator dude....
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Re: cleaning shrooms picked off a 50/50 casing? [Re: SamhainJ]
#19230682 - 12/05/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'll stick to my 6+ oz dehydrated & cleaned first flushes.
   
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Re: cleaning shrooms picked off a 50/50 casing? [Re: SamhainJ]
#19230684 - 12/05/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sometimes i forget i have to explain every single detail about everything i do or theres a million people waiting to mouth off
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Re: cleaning shrooms picked off a 50/50 casing? [Re: SamhainJ]
#19230710 - 12/05/13 10:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thats awesome that you get 6+ oz off your first flush, i cant eat that in a year and i dont sell any of my mushies so im content with getting a half oz off a flush
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Re: cleaning shrooms picked off a 50/50 casing? [Re: SamhainJ]
#19230718 - 12/05/13 10:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sarcasm, dude. Chill out. It's the internet, & it's not serious.

I eats lots of mushis.
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TranscendingLife said: No water after dehydration. Just use a stiff toothbrush.
Yeah, TL, I brush mine prior to drying. The only water that hits them after that is from the kettle.
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Re: cleaning shrooms picked off a 50/50 casing? [Re: kratom_redmomd]
#19231069 - 12/05/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hmm, am I alone in brushing my mushrooms off after they dry?
It's so much easier, it tends to kick up some dust though.
Like TL said, use a stiff toothbrush. Or pick up a vegetable brush from the store
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Re: cleaning shrooms picked off a 50/50 casing? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19231116 - 12/05/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I used to do that FF, but I started having some respiratory problems due to all the dust being kicked up. So now I just cut at the base of the stem.
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FrankHorrigan said: Hmm, am I alone in brushing my mushrooms off after they dry?
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Whippy said: Toothbrush is my weapon of choice after dehydration.
We are alone in here together. A few more of us, and we can start a social club.
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SamhainJ said: Yeah, ive been told it doesnt increase yield, but ive never gotten 160 grams fresh off a fruited cake, prob not even out of 4+ flushes..
I often really wonder about the nutritional benefits of coir versus peat. Both can be left out for months wet and never get any sort of contamination. Reading old stories where cultivators used coir as a casing adds to part of the mystery.
I like you am an "at-home-mycologist". I do not commercially produce large quantities of anything. I always strive for the least amount of effort, with the best returns. No matter what you put in a monotub, apparently so long as its pasteurized returns MORE THAN ENOUGH for me and all 4 of my imaginary friends.
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TranscendingLife said: I started having some respiratory problems due to all the dust being kicked up.
I am not a doctor, but that does not seem at all good.
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Nothing serious. I'd just start coughing and hacking up shit for about half an hour after cleaning. I'm also cleaning 8-12 oz at a time.
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before i dehydrate i usually take a dull knife and scrape off the substrate off my fruits. i dont like cutting the ends. it causes bruising and loss of goodies
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Re: cleaning shrooms picked off a 50/50 casing? [Re: vbug66]
#19231622 - 12/05/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I probably lose around 1-2 grams per 6 oz flush. That's minimal considering I harvest in 3/4 of the time now & when I weigh out my mushis for storage it takes me 1/3 of the time.
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TranscendingLife said: Nothing serious. I'd just start coughing and hacking up shit for about half an hour after cleaning. I'm also cleaning 8-12 oz at a time.
Sounds like someone needs to quit smoking that nasty tobacco (like I did) 
My cased PE harvests are usually around 10 ounces or so, so I wear an N95 mask for cleaning those.
I am a pretty bad asthmatic. Had to kick not just cigs, but smoking completely. I now vape exclusively and my lungs thank me everyday 
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Whippy said: We are alone in here together. A few more of us, and we can start a social club.

I can't imagine brushing them while wet. What a mess that was for me.
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Re: cleaning shrooms picked off a 50/50 casing? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19231732 - 12/05/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea, I need to quit smoking...
I'm getting around 7 oz on two flushes on my PEs, atm. I'm happy with that.
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You counting blobs as a first flush?
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Re: cleaning shrooms picked off a 50/50 casing? [Re: PussyFart]
#19231800 - 12/05/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nope. I get some blobs, probably 25-40 grams worth per tote, but I pick those whenever I feel like it. I hate running the dehydrator for 2 racks since it uses so much energy.
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I hear that....
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Re: cleaning shrooms picked off a 50/50 casing? [Re: PussyFart]
#19232074 - 12/05/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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If it's just coir and verm on the base just eat it. You'll get you some vitamins and minerals. Poo is pretty nutritious too
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