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Re: If drugs had been legal for years... [Re: Konyap]
    #19232049 - 12/05/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Illyabo said:
It's actually pretty hard to O.D. on drugs sometimes like 90% of people fail, illegal drugs are much more useful for O.D.




Well according to this site there are more overdoses on prescription drugs than illegal drugs and this website probably supports the drug war -

xxx.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/prescription/abuse-international-statistics.html

"In 2007, the Drug Enforcement Administration found that abuse of the painkiller Fentanyl killed more than 1,000 people that year in the US. It is thirty to fifty times more powerful than heroin.

“I realized I was using more Xanax on a regular basis. I took time off work to get off it. Without the knowledge I was addicted, I went ‘cold turkey.’ For four days and nights I was bedridden. I didn’t sleep or eat. I vomited. I had hallucinations. On about the third day without Xanax I started to become uncoordinated and unbalanced and bumped into things. On about the fourth day I became really worried when I started having twitching sensations.” —Patricia"


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Re: If drugs had been legal for years... [Re: skatealex2]
    #19233549 - 12/05/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

more people die from drugs accidentally then O.D.s on drugs they aren't supposed to take


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Re: If drugs had been legal for years... [Re: Konyap]
    #19233551 - 12/05/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

it changes from year to year tho


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Re: If drugs had been legal for years... [Re: Konyap]
    #19233555 - 12/05/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

normally 3,000

once in awhile like 30,000:lol:

every year like 14,000 illegal and 3,000 legal

they don't rule illegal drug taking as suicide

but i do!


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Re: If drugs had been legal for years... [Re: skatealex2]
    #19235069 - 12/06/13 03:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If drugs had been legal for years, then everything the world has been designed to do up until now would be oblivious and the world would have changed so drastically that I'm not sure if it would be a good or a bad thing because who can really question the reasoning for why life does what it does. Maybe if drugs were legal, some body's life would have ended because instead of going to that AA meeting they drove down to the liquor store and got hit by a train. Now to most people, this probably doesn't seem like a very big issue, but think about that one life, all the life's he/she interacted with throughout the 100 years we typically live, now imagine the chain reaction over billions of years of the telephone theory. Hmm..:smile:


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Re: If drugs had been legal for years... [Re: badchad]
    #19235171 - 12/06/13 04:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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badchad said:
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still not as bad as the problems illegal heroin has caused. no ones going to end the dangers all together, but there are ways to make it safer.

 




Perhaps, although I think this depends on the metrics you're using.  For example, prescription opioids kill more people than heroin.  One might consider "death" to be a pretty serious problem.  Admittedly though, its only one outcome measure.




Well realize prescriptions are more common amongst people like high schoolers and in addition a lot of people get addicted to prescriptions because of surgeries or accidents who would otherwise not be using opioids. So yeah, there are certainly more people having issues with using prescriptions because more people are abusing them, and half the demographic are irresponsible teens.

But if you were to weigh the cost of using a street opiate strictly against the cost of using a pharmaceutical opioid the street opiate would be far more dangerous. A lot of heroin overdoses are due to fluctuating product purities. Even knowledgeable users can get fucked when they snort their regular dose if the product purity varies too much.

Also heroin has a taboo that prescriptions don't. Part of the battle is getting people educated which is really difficult when you dichotomize drugs the way we do in western society. Drugs that are given by doctors and psychiatrists are seen as not that dangerous because we rarely treat them as they should be treated. I don't know if you've ever been to a psychiatrists office, but they act like they're prescribing you vitamins. "I'm having nightma..." *leaps out of chair* "Don't worry i've got something to fix that!" (true story). And of course when you're a teen hopped up daily on addy and benzos, how much worse could messing with oxy be? They're designed by pharmacists to get you high after all. It's a cultural issue more than a legality one. DXM for example is easily available legally but not abused to the extent of prescription drugs because it still has a stigma. It's all about how people perceive the drugs around them. Part of a responsible regulation system is to be aware of how you introduce drugs into a society. You can't let drugs be a capitalist free for all. Imo even alcohol and tobacco are too poorly restricted when they're allowed to advertise and stock their products behind the check out of every convenience store so that you're forced with temptation since the day you can read


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