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Sizl's First Mono
    #19228792 - 12/04/13 08:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Welp, here is another grow for me to document.  What I did was:

I decided to try out a monotub, using coir/verm/gypsum, and I had 10 1/4 pint cakes going that were nearing full colonization, so I decided to grate them as spawn.  So I did Damion's Bucket tek for the substrate.  Built my mono with a 66qt tub.  3 days later, I see this:



That's myc, right?  It looks rhizomorphic, and looks likeTmethyl's pics in the "What it should/shouldn't look like"  I'm just paranoid on my first attempt, especially with bucket tec, but I followed it, and stayed clean.  I'm buying a 23qt pressure cooker tomorrow, so I can do proper spawn with WBS, and I plan on (probably) pasteurizing my substrate from now on, depending how this first mono rolls.  I can already tell, though that I'm gonna get hooked on bulk and I'll never look at cakes again.  Next comes isolates on agar......plans.....plans....

As always, comments are welcome, criticisms are welcome, thanks!


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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: SizlChest]
    #19228878 - 12/04/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It looks good so far.  Good luck on your first tub.  Unlike grains though you do want cakes to reach full colonization and the do need to consolidate before birthing them.  Even when working with grains the grains need to be 100% colonized before you open the jar.  I hope it works out for you.


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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: SizlChest]
    #19228879 - 12/04/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

that's what you want.


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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: fractaldill]
    #19229038 - 12/04/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's not clear in the first post, but I did let 'em consolidate.  It occurred to me as they were nearing full colonization to use them as spawn because I was getting antsy....

Thanks for easing fears a bit.  When it finally does colonize fully, do I let it consolidate, as well, or just fruit it?  Do I mist/fan?  Or is it really "set it, and forget it?"


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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: SizlChest]
    #19229078 - 12/04/13 09:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You don't need to consolidate monotubs, but some people like to wait to see pins before putting a monotub into fruiting. And you should mist and fan depending on the conditions in your tub. For example, if your fruits look long and skinny, fan more. If your substrate looks dry, mist it. You don't need to periodically mist/fan a monotub the same way you do a sgfc.


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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19229116 - 12/04/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Also if your substrate was at proper field capacity you set and forget the monotub for the most part while it is colonizing and during your first flush.  Opening the tub will release the CO2 build up and the CO2 build up helps with pin set.


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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: Willy Wonka]
    #19236534 - 12/06/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I can't wait to see what happens here. After reading every post and drooling over your pictures in the first grow I can't wait to see what you can do with a monotub. :justcantwait:

You take great pics and document your progress really well. Great work :kaneclap:


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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: V1rusH0st]
    #19236560 - 12/06/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Looks really good.  I've liked following your other growth threads, looking forward to seeing the progress with the first mono. 

Just started a couple minitubs of my own, I'll be peeking in on them in the next day or two.  Hope things look as good as yours!


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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: CliftonGK1]
    #19236679 - 12/06/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

From what I understand you don't want to consolidate cakes if spawning them (at least not for a week like you would to fruit them), you want the mycelium to remain in a colonization mode whereas consolidation will cause it too shift into a fruiting state. Looks good OP.


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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19238095 - 12/06/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I want to open it up and take pics of the progress, but I'm scared, lol!  Quess you'll just have to wait a bit longer....I plan on fruiting at ten days....any suggestions on that?


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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: SizlChest]
    #19238113 - 12/06/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Opening it for a few seconds to snap a pic ain't gonna hurt shit. I do it all the time.


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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19238162 - 12/06/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

*arm has been twisted*



There's mycelium on the wall of the tub....



OK, that'll do, tub.


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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: SizlChest]
    #19239333 - 12/07/13 01:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:whacker:Looking good Sizl.  There is nothing like that first time feeling.  Remember your first pins on your first cakes?  Do you remember how much joy and happiness it brought you when you saw your very first shrooms growing?  Well it's just as good when you get your first shrooms in a mono tub too.  In fact I think it's even better than the joy from your first cakes because once your tub starts filling in you are going to be so happy to see that tub full of shrooms. 

What is the strain?


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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19239337 - 12/07/13 01:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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You don't need to consolidate monotubs, but some people like to wait to see pins before putting a monotub into fruiting. And you should mist and fan depending on the conditions in your tub. For example, if your fruits look long and skinny, fan more. If your substrate looks dry, mist it. You don't need to periodically mist/fan a monotub the same way you do a sgfc.




a properly dialed in monotub shouldnt need hardly any misting during the first flush.

did you case your mono?


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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: twistedty]
    #19239494 - 12/07/13 03:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It looks like it. Looks like he followed damions buket tek on that too :smile:. It says to save some of the substrate for a casing layer lol. Its been around that long :smile:.

Two things about that OP:
1. A casing layer is actually suppose to be a layer of non-nutritious material. Not coir.

2. Its been found that cubes dont need a casing layer. And id recommend against it actually especially if doing a bucket tech. Reason being that while the myc is eating up the sub that you mixed it with, the false casing layer ( i say false cause of the first thing) mostly sits there being all inviting and nutritious and shit for passin by motorists (hehe) and then also takes longer for the myc to work up through it once it does get there case its only been exposed to the underside of the layer instead of throughout the medium like mixing. Time is not your friend on bulk lol. When doing a bucket tech and indead true pasteurization aswell a key strategem is to "storm the beaches" so to speak and flood the substrate with as many little myc troops as possible as quick as possible so it just overwhelmes anything left behind before it has time to recover a toe hold.

The standard ratio of spawn to sub is usually 1:2, however I know of some tc's that like to go with a 1:1 and Im gonna be tryin that cause ive had probs with contams lately.

That being said, a thin casing layer of even just verm although true that it has been found to be unneccasry for cubes to gain robustness could still be used just for a layer of protection from the top and is usefull to keep track of moisture cause it changes color when it dries out. And being that it isnt nutritous it adds no time to colonization and mushies will just push through it so I dont see a down side :smile:

Hope this helps :smile:


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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: Willy Wonka]
    #19239690 - 12/07/13 06:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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What is the strain?




Umm, blue meanie, I think.  B+ is my second cakes, so yeah, blue meanie.  I got 6 syringes of varying strains.  But, cubes are cubes, right?  I am wishing I bought one syringe of PE, but, oh well.

I really can't wait to see some action in the tub.  I know my cakes are going to be okay, and I'm looking forward to eating them, but, I want a stockpile, and some for sharing.  Can't wait!!

Thanks for the encouraging words, everyone!  I also appreciate your suggestions and insights.


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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: SizlChest]
    #19244240 - 12/08/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So, I see mycelium poking through the entire substrate,  How long should I wait to put into fruiting conditions?  I planned on ten days, and I think that's Tuesday.  Should I just be patient, or shoot the moon and go ahead and pack poly tight into the bottom holes and loose on the top?


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"Hell, shrooms have blown up from under me and kicked my ass on 2 grams once."
"I think ill eat some shrooms right about now, and ill continue to until it doesnt feel like the right thing to do."


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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: SizlChest]
    #19244340 - 12/08/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

When its fully colonized is when you put it into fruiting conditions... do not rush this hobby.


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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: SizlChest]
    #19244341 - 12/08/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Is the top all white? Or just some mycelium poking out? Wait until the top is all white for best results. Full colonization of available nutes is a primary pinning trigger.


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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19244358 - 12/08/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Is the top all white? Or just some mycelium poking out? Wait until the top is all white for best results. Full colonization of available nutes is a primary pinning trigger.




Just poking out.  I will wait as long as I need to....so, all white all over like cakes?  Is this pic (taken from "What it Should Look Like") fully colonized, or, just shy of?



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