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OfflineMrBlueYoMind
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DEA to Create Pot Concentrate Code
    #19228843 - 12/04/13 08:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

DEA to Create Pot Concentrate Code

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We knew it was too good to last. In a process that has spanned over two and a half years, this month the DEA is scheduled to create a new (Drug Enforcement) Administration Controlled Substances Code Number for "Marihuana Extract.”

This drug code number will enable the DEA and their registered entities to track cannabis concentrates – such as highly potent BHO – separately from marijuana flowers and plants. 

The concentrate-specific code was also necessary for the DEA to comply with international drug treaties – controlled by the United Nations – as there are distinctions between UN regulations for pot concentrates as opposed to marijuana and tetrahydrocannabinols, both of which the DEA has previously coded.

The DEA is proposing to create the drug code under 21 CFR 1308.11(d)(36). It will read, "Marihuana Extract meaning extracts that have been derived from any plant of the genus cannabis and which contain cannabinols and cannabidiols.” This designation will render all extracts as Schedule I drugs, defined as having no medicinal value, despite the mounting evidence that cannabidiol – CBD – besides being non-psychoactive, have proven to be highly efficacious in treating various afflictions.





I for one think its rediculous that they are scheduling CBD as it is non-psychoactive and has shown medicinal value.


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Re: DEA to Create Pot Concentrate Code [Re: MrBlueYoMind] * 10
    #19228908 - 12/04/13 09:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think that its ridiculous that the DEA has any say in the creation of policy at all.

As their very title suggests, they are an ENFORCEMENT entity. Leave the creation of policy to elected officials.


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Re: DEA to Create Pot Concentrate Code [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #19228997 - 12/04/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Lol this reminds me of when my brother gave me the ol' pot talk from his policemen's point of view. Before he knew i smoked all pot was bad end of story. Then the cat jumped out of the bag, and i was found out, and it was just the really strong stuff that's bad for you. Now he see's no problem with hemp being legal, and says marijuana should still be illegal because we have marinol, and that does exactly the same thing but it's somehow safer because it doesn't get you high. I should have asked him where he got his pharmacology degree and if he even knew the name of any brain receptors associated with pot. Also, don't smoke the strain red dragon, i hear it gives people REAL bad trips.


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Re: DEA to Create Pot Concentrate Code [Re: LuSiD enthusiast] * 2
    #19229201 - 12/04/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This sounds like the last dying gasp of a failed policy (the drug war) and a desperate attempt to criminalize that which is bound to be legal very soon.  Good luck with that DEA.


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Re: DEA to Create Pot Concentrate Code [Re: afrogus]
    #19229264 - 12/04/13 10:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

well like any business even people in the DEA must want to strangle their boss' sometimes


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Re: DEA to Create Pot Concentrate Code [Re: Konyap]
    #19229326 - 12/04/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:kaneclap:


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OfflineShroomDoom
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Re: DEA to Create Pot Concentrate Code [Re: funkerdslr]
    #19229474 - 12/04/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This is just sickening.  This law doesnt really hurt anybody but sick patients. Now patients in non mmj states who could at least obtain hemp extracted cbd oil(no thc) are shit out of luck.


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Re: DEA to Create Pot Concentrate Code [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #19229876 - 12/05/13 02:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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LuSiD enthusiast said:
Also, don't smoke the strain red dragon, i hear it gives people REAL bad trips.





:seriousthankyou:


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Re: DEA to Create Pot Concentrate Code [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19229880 - 12/05/13 02:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I do see CBD being reclassified as Sched 1 or 2, more likely 2, but this other shit?

Come on, get real.

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Invisiblebadchad
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Re: DEA to Create Pot Concentrate Code [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #19230027 - 12/05/13 04:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This has absolutely nothing to do with scheduling. 

Marijuana, THC, and cannabidiol have long been Schedule 1 substances. 

These code numbers are mainly used for tracking and collecting data.


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Re: DEA to Create Pot Concentrate Code [Re: badchad]
    #19230213 - 12/05/13 07:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Just grasping at straws to make themselves seem relevant.


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OfflineLord_McLovin
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Re: DEA to Create Pot Concentrate Code [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #19231352 - 12/05/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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wildernessjunkie said:
I think that its ridiculous that the DEA has any say in the creation of policy at all.

As their very title suggests, they are an ENFORCEMENT entity. Leave the creation of policy to elected officials.




Someone just realized that separation of powers doesn't mean shit in the US anymore.

FIGHT THE POLICE STATE!


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OfflineJesus Cristo
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Re: DEA to Create Pot Concentrate Code [Re: badchad] * 1
    #19231680 - 12/05/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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badchad said:
This has absolutely nothing to do with scheduling. 

Marijuana, THC, and cannabidiol have long been Schedule 1 substances. 

These code numbers are mainly used for tracking and collecting data.



i thought cannabidiol was unscheduled?


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Re: DEA to Create Pot Concentrate Code [Re: Jesus Cristo]
    #19232007 - 12/05/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: DEA to Create Pot Concentrate Code [Re: funkerdslr]
    #19232926 - 12/05/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

CBD is probably the best anti-psychotic around.  I really hate the dea for getting in the way of research and a healthy evolution.


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Re: DEA to Create Pot Concentrate Code [Re: Jesus Cristo]
    #19233449 - 12/05/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Jesus Cristo said:

i thought cannabidiol was unscheduled?




No, its Schedule 1.  If you follow the actual FR notice, it describes the change and ends the first paragraph with the following:  "Such extracts of marihuana would continue to be treated as schedule I controlled substances.
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The notice further concludes with:

"Consistent with the Controlled Substances Act (CSA), the schedules contained in the DEA regulations include marihuana (drug code 7360) in schedule I. 21 CFR 1308.11(d)(23). This listing includes (unless specifically excepted or unless listed in another schedule) any material, compound, mixture, or preparation, which contains any quantity of the substance, or which contains any of its salts, isomers, and salts of isomers that are possible within the specific chemical designation. Because the definition of marihuana in 21 U.S.C. 802(16) includes both derivatives and preparations of marihuana, DEA until now has used drug code 7360 for extracts of marihuana as well. In this proposed rule, DEA is proposing that the new drug code 7350 be used for extracts of marihuana."


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: DEA to Create Pot Concentrate Code [Re: badchad]
    #19233499 - 12/05/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Cannabidiol is not a tetrahydrocannabinol therefore it is unscheduled in the United States.


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Re: DEA to Create Pot Concentrate Code [Re: D.M.T]
    #19233717 - 12/05/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Wait one fucking second, wouldn't this mean that in the places that have legalized marijuana, hash and oil are now illegal again? Thats devious as hell on the DEAs part.


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Re: DEA to Create Pot Concentrate Code [Re: Dr. Funtime]
    #19233893 - 12/05/13 08:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It's perfectly OK that you can buy alcohol which ranges in content from less than .05% of the beverage (like O'Doul's) to that which has greater than 90% alcohol (Everclear). 

However, smoking cannabis related products is strictly prohibited.  It's claimed that smoking it is terrible for your health, but more concentrated products that reduce the amount you need to smoke to reach an equivalent level of intoxication are demonized.  It's better that you fuck up your lungs smoking grams of low potency cannabis than taking a few tokes of higher potency concoctions.  Because being more potent doesn't mean harm is reduced, it means that evil is increased and the cops just don't like it.  After all, if you don't go to jail for absolutely insane periods of time for victimless crimes, how do you expect all of these cops to earn a living?  God forbid you should insist that your right to not be incarcerated for victimless crimes be upheld.  There's one of our countries largest industries at stake here (private prisons), and how dare you let your right to not be wrongfully imprisoned stand in the way of the bonus the warden will receive or the salaries of the guards who imprison you without justifiable cause?  Sounds like you need to have your neck twisted until it's almost broken at the hands of an abusive guard who you can't ever hope to file a complaint against.  Serves you right.


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Re: DEA to Create Pot Concentrate Code [Re: dokunai]
    #19233970 - 12/05/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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dokunai said:
It's perfectly OK that you can buy alcohol which ranges in content from less than .05% of the beverage (like O'Doul's) to that which has greater than 90% alcohol (Everclear). 

However, smoking cannabis related products is strictly prohibited.  It's claimed that smoking it is terrible for your health, but more concentrated products that reduce the amount you need to smoke to reach an equivalent level of intoxication are demonized.  It's better that you fuck up your lungs smoking grams of low potency cannabis than taking a few tokes of higher potency concoctions.  Because being more potent doesn't mean harm is reduced, it means that evil is increased and the cops just don't like it.  After all, if you don't go to jail for absolutely insane periods of time for victimless crimes, how do you expect all of these cops to earn a living?  God forbid you should insist that your right to not be incarcerated for victimless crimes be upheld.  There's one of our countries largest industries at stake here (private prisons), and how dare you let your right to not be wrongfully imprisoned stand in the way of the bonus the warden will receive or the salaries of the guards who imprison you without justifiable cause?  Sounds like you need to have your neck twisted until it's almost broken at the hands of an abusive guard who you can't ever hope to file a complaint against.  Serves you right.



That's exactly right. :thumbup:


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