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Level5MotherFucker
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First Timer for Mushrooms
#19228170 - 12/04/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So I'm interested in trying mushrooms. I used to smoke weed everyday until it started giving me panic attacks so I quit. I have had a level 5 trip on synthetic marijuana (it was horrible, yet mind expanding) and I am very interested in how other hallucinogens may expand my mind. I want to try some cubes or gymnopilus aeruginosus (I know they grow where I live). Would you guys recommend someone with my past experiences tripping? What is a good way to prepare myself? Best setting? My purpose for tripping is pure. I'm not wanting to get high, I merely want to explore my mind, death, consciousness, and the universe through hallucinogens.
-------------------- "I don't believe in man's definition of God. I believe in a child's definition of God... I think we were all closer to the oneness of existence as a child than we are today." -Serj Tankian, System of a Down "Swimming through the void we hear the word. We lose ourselves, but we find it all...." -Aerials, System of a Down
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theRAPeutic
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5 grams dried, good settin,g have fun
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GreySatyr
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Re: First Timer for Mushrooms [Re: theRAPeutic]
#19228264 - 12/04/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Synthetic weed doesn't give you level five trips...
For that comment you should eat 5+ grams and see what a level five is.
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Level5MotherFucker
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Level 5: Total loss of visual connection with reality. The senses cease to function in the normal way. Total loss of ego. Merging with space, other objects, or the universe. The loss of reality becomes so severe that it defies explanation. The earlier levels are relatively easy to explain in terms of measureable changes in perception and thought patterns. This level is different in that the actual universe within which things are normally perceived, ceases to exist! Satori enlightenment (and other such labels).
That's what happened to me when I tripped on synthetic. It had what you call a "hotspot" which is where the chemical used is extremely concentrated in a certain area and I hit that shit. This was level 5, whether you believe me or not, I know that's what it was.
-------------------- "I don't believe in man's definition of God. I believe in a child's definition of God... I think we were all closer to the oneness of existence as a child than we are today." -Serj Tankian, System of a Down "Swimming through the void we hear the word. We lose ourselves, but we find it all...." -Aerials, System of a Down
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Smeagol
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What are you looking for . . . a level 5? Then 5 grams. just to test the waters? 2 or 3 grams.
-------------------- The road to hell is paved with good intentions, but it is not paved with clarity.” -Terence "If you're not peaking what the fuck are you doing?" Dude on facebook
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Sgt. Pepper



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Re: First Timer for Mushrooms [Re: Smeagol]
#19228658 - 12/04/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Don't take 5 grams your first time, you'll most likely freak out and break a bunch of shit. Start with 2.5, I'm sure you'll still be amazed.
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PrimalSoup
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I'm not wanting to get high, I merely want to explore my mind, death, consciousness, and the universe through hallucinogens.
They're unlikely to kill you. But they may show you things. However, you WILL get high, higher than you've ever been or ever imagined being. If you're ready for that "level5motherfucker " than do 5-7 gms and fasten the seat belt. 
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Sgt. Pepper



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Re: First Timer for Mushrooms [Re: PrimalSoup]
#19228771 - 12/04/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Everyone is saying take 5 grams for level 5, but for me that just gave me a crazy mindfuck and few visuals. It was really bad though, could that have been why I wasn't totally immersed in visuals?
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Level5MotherFucker
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Re: First Timer for Mushrooms [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19228848 - 12/04/13 08:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm merely wanting to experiment at first. I am not yet ready for another "Level5MotherFucker" trip I had about 2 years ago. Also, by explore death, I refer to Terence Mckenna and his thoughts on psychotropics and how they relate to death.
That trip though.. Damn.. I may have to post it in the reports section. It was extremely intense.
-------------------- "I don't believe in man's definition of God. I believe in a child's definition of God... I think we were all closer to the oneness of existence as a child than we are today." -Serj Tankian, System of a Down "Swimming through the void we hear the word. We lose ourselves, but we find it all...." -Aerials, System of a Down
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TheGreenBox


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I recommend starting with 2.5-3g!
-------------------- And in my darkest moment, fetal and weeping, the moon tells me a secret - my confidant. As full and bright as I am, this light is not my own and a million light reflections pass over me. Its source is bright and endless. - Tool
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PrimalSoup
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Also, by explore death, I refer to Terence Mckenna and his thoughts on psychotropics and how they relate to death.
Never heard of him.
Find out for yourself! They're about life, not about death. 
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Sgt. Pepper



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Re: First Timer for Mushrooms [Re: PrimalSoup]
#19229191 - 12/04/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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PrimalSoup said:
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Also, by explore death, I refer to Terence Mckenna and his thoughts on psychotropics and how they relate to death.
Never heard of him.
Find out for yourself! They're about life, not about death. 
PS
you've never heard of Terrance McKenna?!? And I feel I have gained a greater understanding of death through my mushroom trips. I'm certainly less scared of it, even though mushrooms are the only thing on this planet that has ever made me so sure that I was going to die, or that I was dead, or something along those lines.
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Level5MotherFucker
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Re: First Timer for Mushrooms [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19229253 - 12/04/13 10:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here is my trip report for my Level 5 trip on synthetic. IMO, this is much worse than thinking you are dying. I've felt like I was dying and it was nowhere near as terrifying as this.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19228942
-------------------- "I don't believe in man's definition of God. I believe in a child's definition of God... I think we were all closer to the oneness of existence as a child than we are today." -Serj Tankian, System of a Down "Swimming through the void we hear the word. We lose ourselves, but we find it all...." -Aerials, System of a Down
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Smeagol
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Primal why you no McKenna? I can see people being attracked to him. He do eerie s a good job talking about it and he seems pretty humble. I like he promotes people finding out what "it" for themselves and doing what works for them. Im gonna do a tune up trip and then gonna go at it McKenna style. High dose, silent darkness, lots of good smoke. But I wanna see what the mushrooms got. Push my boundaries. Not get distracted by how beautiful the patterns on the wall look with the flowing carpet haha
2 or 3 grams should let you wade in the waters. Im not experienced like some around here but out of dozen or two trips 3.5 never wrecked me except some copelandia. But different people respond different and people talk about some pretty heavy trips off 3 and 3.5
-------------------- The road to hell is paved with good intentions, but it is not paved with clarity.” -Terence "If you're not peaking what the fuck are you doing?" Dude on facebook
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Thayendanegea
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Re: First Timer for Mushrooms [Re: PrimalSoup]
#19230294 - 12/05/13 08:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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PrimalSoup said:
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Also, by explore death, I refer to Terence Mckenna and his thoughts on psychotropics and how they relate to death.
Never heard of him.
Find out for yourself! They're about life, not about death. 
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lmao ....I do believe....young'ns....that was "tongue in cheek"
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PrimalSoup
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Re: First Timer for Mushrooms [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19231027 - 12/05/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sgt. Pepper said:
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PrimalSoup said:
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Also, by explore death, I refer to Terence Mckenna and his thoughts on psychotropics and how they relate to death.
Never heard of him.
Find out for yourself! They're about life, not about death. 
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you've never heard of Terrance McKenna?!? And I feel I have gained a greater understanding of death through my mushroom trips. I'm certainly less scared of it, even though mushrooms are the only thing on this planet that has ever made me so sure that I was going to die, or that I was dead, or something along those lines.
Never. What is he, some sort of economist? 
Mushrooms teach you nothing about real death, only about death of the ego - and that only if you're really lucky. You might want to study some responsible sources for this, like Buddhism perhaps. Most of what you're talking about is ego imagination still. 
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PrimalSoup
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Re: First Timer for Mushrooms [Re: Smeagol]
#19231060 - 12/05/13 12:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Smeagol said: Primal why you no McKenna? I can see people being attracked to him. He do eerie s a good job talking about it and he seems pretty humble. I like he promotes people finding out what "it" for themselves and doing what works for them.
'Cause I've been growing and doing this shit since the 80's and I know what's up with it. 
Besides, psychedelic gurus are a dime a dozen, the hard part is not turning INTO one.
The only person I ever found helpful was John Lily, mostly because, like myself, he was an actual scientist. And he was onto the truth of it - for the idea of ECCO alone he deserves to be canonized. 
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Level5MotherFucker
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Re: First Timer for Mushrooms [Re: PrimalSoup]
#19231114 - 12/05/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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PrimalSoup said:
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Sgt. Pepper said:
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PrimalSoup said:
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Also, by explore death, I refer to Terence Mckenna and his thoughts on psychotropics and how they relate to death.
Never heard of him.
Find out for yourself! They're about life, not about death. 
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you've never heard of Terrance McKenna?!? And I feel I have gained a greater understanding of death through my mushroom trips. I'm certainly less scared of it, even though mushrooms are the only thing on this planet that has ever made me so sure that I was going to die, or that I was dead, or something along those lines.
Never. What is he, some sort of economist? 
Mushrooms teach you nothing about real death, only about death of the ego - and that only if you're really lucky. You might want to study some responsible sources for this, like Buddhism perhaps. Most of what you're talking about is ego imagination still. 
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What do you think happens when you die? You retain your ego? Not even. Experiencing ego death is indeed preparing you for the real thing, IMO.
Here is Terence Mckenna. Read up.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_McKenna
-------------------- "I don't believe in man's definition of God. I believe in a child's definition of God... I think we were all closer to the oneness of existence as a child than we are today." -Serj Tankian, System of a Down "Swimming through the void we hear the word. We lose ourselves, but we find it all...." -Aerials, System of a Down
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PrimalSoup
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You wanna learn about tripping, real tripping, well hell, then trip for god's sake. You won't learn about it by reading what somebody else has to say. It's not a product, it's an experience.
I read that trip report you posted - levels are total bullshit. Get over it. Learn by doing. Trust nothing but your own experience. Spend a couple hours on the ass side of eternity and you'll gain some new respect for the legitimate substances. 
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Edited by PrimalSoup (12/05/13 06:10 PM)
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