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Re: The greatest human achievement ever? [Re: BlindEye]
#19228019 - 12/04/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Spoken language trumps written language.
Spoken language taught us to communicate and moreover to think in the abstractions of words. If one invention made everything possible, its language, period.
Yeah this makes more sense. Spoken for sure. Language in general 
I always differentiated written language because it is an invention. Spoken language is evolution of animal calls.
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Re: The greatest human achievement ever? [Re: zappaisgod]
#19228034 - 12/04/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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shivas.wisdom said: to be fair, the trip to the moon is easier than the journey to the deepest part of the ocean.
to this day, only three folks have been to the bottom of the marianas trench
I don't agree. I think it could have easily been done if it had sexy. It just doesn't have the drama so they didn't put on the show. Gotta sell tickets, ya know.
"Well I don't agree with your lack of agreement," says NASA oceanographer, Gene Feldman.
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Why don't we know more about the oceans?
It's really a hard place to work. In many ways, it's easier to put a person into space than it is to send a person down to the bottom of the ocean. For one thing, the pressure exerted by the water above is enormous. It's the equivalent of one person trying to support 50 jumbo jets. It's also dark and cold. Unlike space where you can see forever, once you're down in the ocean you can't see anything because your light can't shine very far. It's a challenging place to study.
http://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/5-8/features/oceans-the-great-unknown-58_prt.htm
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Re: The greatest human achievement ever? [Re: Enjoywho]
#19228053 - 12/04/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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LittleDipster said: surprised no one has mentioned agriculture.
that's because it's the worst mistake in the history of the human race
Oh god.


it makes a pretty compelling case, but i doubt you actually read any of it
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Re: The greatest human achievement ever? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#19228073 - 12/04/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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shivas.wisdom said: to be fair, the trip to the moon is easier than the journey to the deepest part of the ocean.
to this day, only three folks have been to the bottom of the marianas trench
I don't agree. I think it could have easily been done if it had sexy. It just doesn't have the drama so they didn't put on the show. Gotta sell tickets, ya know.
"Well I don't agree with your lack of agreement," says NASA oceanographer, Gene Feldman.
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Why don't we know more about the oceans?
It's really a hard place to work. In many ways, it's easier to put a person into space than it is to send a person down to the bottom of the ocean. For one thing, the pressure exerted by the water above is enormous. It's the equivalent of one person trying to support 50 jumbo jets. It's also dark and cold. Unlike space where you can see forever, once you're down in the ocean you can't see anything because your light can't shine very far. It's a challenging place to study.
http://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/5-8/features/oceans-the-great-unknown-58_prt.htm
In space of you don't see forever there is nothing to see.
I didn't say it was easy. I said it wasn't done because it wasn't sexy. How much money was spent on each? If we spent as much time and money on the deep ocean we'd know it inside and out and thousands of people would have gone. Just not sexy enough
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Re: The greatest human achievement ever? [Re: Patlal]
#19228104 - 12/04/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said: We did put a man on the moon...
We did NOT 
Please refer to the following thread from the "conspiracies and cover-ups" sub-forum: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17008291/fpart/1/vc/1
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Re: The greatest human achievement ever? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#19228112 - 12/04/13 06:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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LittleDipster said: surprised no one has mentioned agriculture.
that's because it's the worst mistake in the history of the human race
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it makes a pretty compelling case, but i doubt you actually read any of it
I read the first paragraph and it's not hard to see where it was leading.
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Re: The greatest human achievement ever? [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
#19228128 - 12/04/13 06:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said: We did put a man on the moon...
We did NOT 
Please refer to the following thread from the "conspiracies and cover-ups" sub-forum: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17008291/fpart/1/vc/1
it would have been mass waste of money to fly some people to space, only to pretend to land on the moon.
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Re: The greatest human achievement ever? [Re: Enjoywho]
#19228162 - 12/04/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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LittleDipster said: surprised no one has mentioned agriculture.
that's because it's the worst mistake in the history of the human race
Oh god.


My bad... I didn't read all this thread before I replied.
I only read the first page of that article (maybe read rest later; tryna get work done), but I didn't realize those other disadvantages of agriculture; we've all been so trained to regard it as ultra-efficient.
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Re: The greatest human achievement ever? [Re: Legend]
#19228173 - 12/04/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said: We did put a man on the moon...
We did NOT 
Please refer to the following thread from the "conspiracies and cover-ups" sub-forum: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17008291/fpart/1/vc/1
it would have been mass waste of money to fly some people to space, only to pretend to land on the moon.
At the time, there was a lot of pressure to succeed in this mission at the time. John Kennedy had been assassinated, the Vietnam war was going on, everyone was dropping acid... the political powers at be needed this to be success.
Basically they launched a spaceship into a low earth orbit, and filmed everything from there.
Some compelling points: 1. They LOST the fucking tapes! What kind of happy horse-shit is that!!? Did they tape over them with a Charlie Brown Christmas or something? 2. There is no way that the film they used would stand up to the absolute-zero temperatures on the moon. Think of plunging some old film into the cold of liquid nitrogen. At best the chemicals would freeze; at worst, it would crumble to dust. 3. The "C" rock, the lack of stars, the double-shadows.. the impossibility of passing through the Van Allen radiation belts (without shielding)... where does it end?
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Re: The greatest human achievement ever? [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
#19228221 - 12/04/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Mythbusters fired a laser at the moon, bouncing it off onew of the mirrors left on the lunar surface and collected photons of that light in the appropriate time frame.
It happened.
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Re: The greatest human achievement ever? [Re: st1llnox]
#19228229 - 12/04/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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that's because it's the worst mistake in the history of the human race
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My bad... I didn't read all this thread before I replied.
I only read the first page of that article (maybe read rest later; tryna get work done), but I didn't realize those other disadvantages of agriculture; we've all been so trained to regard it as ultra-efficient.
Its filled with cherrypicking, bullshit, and misinterpretation of available information. for the article: TLDR Hunter-gatherer society was awesome, and agriculture was the cause of how society treated women. When in actuality both barbaric and sexist cultures exist in both foraging societies and farming ones. The switch to agriculture decreased the variety of people's diets, but this is because of what people chose to grow, not what had to happen. Over time the switch to agriculture led not to abundance, but to stability. stability is where you get good things.
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Re: The greatest human achievement ever? [Re: Asante]
#19228243 - 12/04/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Spoken language, technology (mastery of tools), written language.
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Re: The greatest human achievement ever? [Re: NotTheDevil]
#19228250 - 12/04/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Being able to create fire was also pretty huge too.
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Re: The greatest human achievement ever? [Re: Moorning Due]
#19228263 - 12/04/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Moorning Due said: Being able to create fire was also pretty huge too.
Wonder who the dude that figured this out was... Maybe it was a woman?
Either way their name was probably "ugg-mugh-tuk" or something fucked up like that. I love Ugg-Mugh-Tuk for discovering how to create fire.
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Re: The greatest human achievement ever? [Re: Moorning Due]
#19228283 - 12/04/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: The greatest human achievement ever? [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
#19228335 - 12/04/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The biggesst human achievement has always been the lataset discovery.
Every day we surpass our previous acheivements.
We should be proud as a species that we are able to constantly grow and move forward.
The human brain is the biggest human achievement that will ever exist.
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Re: The greatest human achievement ever? [Re: Asante]
#19228395 - 12/04/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Spoken language trumps written language.
Spoken language taught us to communicate and moreover to think in the abstractions of words. If one invention made everything possible, its language, period.
But written language allowed for knowledge to be accurately passed from generation to generation which is essentially what allowed us to advance to more knowledgeable states
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