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NSA tracks hundreds of millions of cell phones worldwide
#19227602 - 12/04/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can add location tracking to the surveillance activities carried out by the secretive US agency, The Washington Post reports. And though the NSA says Americans aren't targets, data on some does get sucked up.
Where's Waldo? Ask the NSA. That's right, you can add location tracking to the list of surveillance activities being carried out by the secretive US National Security Agency.
Citing documents from the trove leaked by former agency contractor Edward Snowden, as well as statements from US intelligence officials, The Washington Post reports that the agency is sucking up "5 billion records a day on the whereabouts of cell phones around the world" and storing location info on "at least hundreds of millions of devices."
And though US citizens aren't targeted by the program (according to the NSA, which also says the program is legal), location data on an unspecified number of Americans in the states does get captured, the Post reports.
"Analysts can find cell phones anywhere in the world, retrace their movements, and expose hidden relationships among individuals using them," the Post writes, adding later that the most basic analytic tools used in the program "map the date, time, and location of cell phones to look for patterns or significant moments of overlap. Other tools compute speed and trajectory for large numbers of mobile devices, overlaying the electronic data on transportation maps to compute the likely travel time and determine which devices might have intersected." Though it's perhaps alarming, news of such a program isn't necessarily surprising.
In October, The New York Times revealed that the NSA had tested, in 2010 and 2011, its systems' ability to handle bulk data on the location of Americans' cell phones. Both Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and NSA chief Keith Alexander told Congress then that the data was used only for the test and "was not used for any other purpose and was never available for intelligence analysis purposes." Alexander added that location tracking "may be something that is a future requirement for the country."
However, Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), who's privy to classified info as a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee and has been critical of domestic surveillance programs, hinted that tracking might well be taking place. "Once again, the intelligence leadership has decided to leave most of the real story secret -- even when the truth would not compromise national security," he said at the time.
The newly revealed program -- which involves analytic tools collectively known as CO-TRAVELER -- nabs location data, i.e., cell tower identifiers, by tapping into the cables that tie together mobile networks around the world, the Post reports.
The Post mentions two corporate partners involved in the collection, which are identified in the Snowden documents only as ARTIFICE and WOLFPOINT. But the paper quotes Matt Blaze, an associate professor of computer and information science at the University of Pennsylvania, as saying that an intelligence agency can "get 'one stop shopping' to an expansive range of subscriber data just by compromising a few carriers." That's because carriers share entire databases of customer info to handle situations like roaming, so a carrier could have access to data about other carriers' customers.
The general counsel for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which oversees the NSA, told the Post that phones in the US are not the quarry. "There is no element of the intelligence community that under any authority is intentionally collecting bulk cell phone location information about cell phones in the United States," Robert Litt said.
You can check out the Post's full report, including detailed info graphics, here.
Edited by klimt (12/04/13 04:34 PM)
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Re: NSA tracks hundreds of millions of cell phones worldwide [Re: klimt]
#19227846 - 12/04/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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In before Alan transfers post to Security and Safety because it has nothing to do with mushrooms or drugs.
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Re: NSA tracks hundreds of millions of cell phones worldwide [Re: mylfgur]
#19227872 - 12/04/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lol @ people who need to be told by the news. If you get a pre-paid phone and don't activate it, use google voice and groove IP you can make your own phone number and have a wifi phone that the NSA doesn't know who it is. Oh and no monthly bill, but you have to have access to wifi to use it for calls. If you root it and use dsploit then your pretty golden because you can just crack into random wifi's.
Edited by teknix (12/04/13 05:46 PM)
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Re: NSA tracks hundreds of millions of cell phones worldwide [Re: teknix]
#19227892 - 12/04/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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3 words for the NSA (you ready?): Suck my cock!
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Re: NSA tracks hundreds of millions of cell phones worldwide [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
#19227911 - 12/04/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I paid $80 dollars for an HTC oneV smart phone and that's all I'll ever have to pay to use the phone. One of your monthly payments is a lifetime of phone for me.
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Re: NSA tracks hundreds of millions of cell phones worldwide [Re: teknix]
#19227922 - 12/04/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's a good setup to have. The previous comment wasn't directed at you, just at the NSA.
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Re: NSA tracks hundreds of millions of cell phones worldwide [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
#19227981 - 12/04/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Haha, my bad, my comment was directed more towards the readers. I didn't think you were talking to me
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Re: NSA tracks hundreds of millions of cell phones worldwide [Re: teknix]
#19228090 - 12/04/13 06:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i need to start taking more ass and dick photos of myself to save on my phone then
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Re: NSA tracks hundreds of millions of cell phones worldwide [Re: teknix]
#19228106 - 12/04/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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teknix said: I paid $80 dollars for an HTC oneV smart phone and that's all I'll ever have to pay to use the phone. One of your monthly payments is a lifetime of phone for me.

I have an HTC oneV! Could you PM me for more details into how this actually works and how I would go about doing it? I would love to use this!
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Re: NSA tracks hundreds of millions of cell phones worldwide (moved) [Re: klimt]
#19228371 - 12/04/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Shroomery News Service.
Reason: Not drug or mushroom related
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Re: NSA tracks hundreds of millions of cell phones worldwide [Re: nn-IlliniSpiralDMT]
#19229277 - 12/04/13 10:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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teknix said: I paid $80 dollars for an HTC oneV smart phone and that's all I'll ever have to pay to use the phone. One of your monthly payments is a lifetime of phone for me.

I have an HTC oneV! Could you PM me for more details into how this actually works and how I would go about doing it? I would love to use this!
It works with pretty much any and all androids. Personally I would just make entirely new accounts, but if your esid is already registered on your phone to your account through activation then you prob aren't going to be as anonymous.
Here's a video about it:
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Re: NSA tracks hundreds of millions of cell phones worldwide [Re: teknix]
#19229299 - 12/04/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh, you don't need to root your phone or anything to use the groove ip / google voice combo, that is only for dsploit, which there are a lot of video's on youtube about that as well.
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Re: NSA tracks hundreds of millions of cell phones worldwide [Re: teknix]
#19230130 - 12/05/13 06:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You don't think they can access google products? I would think Google would hand it over directly even
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Re: NSA tracks hundreds of millions of cell phones worldwide [Re: teknix]
#19231194 - 12/05/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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teknix said: Lol @ people who need to be told by the news. If you get a pre-paid phone and don't activate it, use google voice and groove IP you can make your own phone number and have a wifi phone that the NSA doesn't know who it is. Oh and no monthly bill, but you have to have access to wifi to use it for calls. If you root it and use dsploit then your pretty golden because you can just crack into random wifi's.
thanks for the info bro
hope this works out
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On May 15, 2014 Google will no longer allow XMPP based calling through Google Voice. After that date, GrooVe IP will no longer make calls through Google Voice. We are exploring alternative solutions, you can find the most up to date information on our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/snrb.labs
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gvoip&hl=en
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Edited by Yuri.Pono (12/05/13 01:17 PM)
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Re: NSA tracks hundreds of millions of cell phones worldwide [Re: Yuri.Pono]
#19231217 - 12/05/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Of course it does. And it's not going to stop, even as more and more people find out.
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Re: NSA tracks hundreds of millions of cell phones worldwide [Re: happygolucky]
#19233334 - 12/05/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh, if you want to use the same phone to activate gvoice, download Text Plus (Text+)which will give you a number a free limited number amount of calls, and I think free incoming.
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Re: NSA tracks hundreds of millions of cell phones worldwide [Re: Yuri.Pono]
#19233349 - 12/05/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yuri.Pono said:
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On May 15, 2014 Google will no longer allow XMPP based calling through Google Voice. After that date, GrooVe IP will no longer make calls through Google Voice. We are exploring alternative solutions, you can find the most up to date information on our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/snrb.labs
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gvoip&hl=en
I wonder why they decided to do that? I'm sure an alternative will pop up.
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Re: NSA tracks hundreds of millions of cell phones worldwide [Re: teknix]
#19233458 - 12/05/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So does this not work anymore??
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Re: NSA tracks hundreds of millions of cell phones worldwide [Re: nn-IlliniSpiralDMT]
#19233534 - 12/05/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yes it does work done tested if i was past 50 post i'd give tek +5 shrooms
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Re: NSA tracks hundreds of millions of cell phones worldwide [Re: Yuri.Pono]
#19233921 - 12/05/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Glad you got it figured out 
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