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Differences between smoke tolerance and edible tolerance
    #19227604 - 12/04/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hey, I wanted to know if there are differences between the tolerance build up process between smoking marijuana and eating marijuana. I suppose it's the same as the cannabinoid receptors should be the same, but as I read that eating it makes you absorb cannabinoids that you don't absorb when you smoke, I was thinking that potentially there could be some differences.

Do you have to wait a certain amount of time to feel the effects of edible marijuana again if you already had some weed brownies a couple of days before or can you eat it two days in a row for example and still get high?

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Re: Differences between smoke tolerance and edible tolerance [Re: Psychoneironaut]
    #19227720 - 12/04/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'd assume that the tolerance would be exactly the same. It's all still going to the CB1 and CB2 receptors. And yeah, you could eat a brownie two days in a row and still get blazed hahaha.


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Re: Differences between smoke tolerance and edible tolerance [Re: meganthratalica]
    #19227736 - 12/04/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yeah they will noticeably boost your tolerance and I am not a huge fan, I generally eat too much or not enough.

Dabs are where its at, they build a tolerance quicker obviously but no matter how high my tolerance is a good dab will always get me there.


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Re: Differences between smoke tolerance and edible tolerance [Re: meganthratalica]
    #19227800 - 12/04/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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meganthratalica said:
I'd assume that the tolerance would be exactly the same. It's all still going to the CB1 and CB2 receptors. And yeah, you could eat a brownie two days in a row and still get blazed hahaha.




Ok I thought maybe it would be as I read it is with mushrooms and other psychedelics, where you have to wait a week or so :tongue2:

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bishlap said:
yeah they will noticeably boost your tolerance and I am not a huge fan, I generally eat too much or not enough.

Dabs are where its at, they build a tolerance quicker obviously but no matter how high my tolerance is a good dab will always get me there.




Well, I try not to smoke during the week in order to keep my tolerance more or less low haha
So in your experience they build up your tolerance quicker than smoking?

Thanks for your input!


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Re: Differences between smoke tolerance and edible tolerance [Re: Psychoneironaut]
    #19230021 - 12/05/13 04:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Weed science is definitely not my area of expertise. That said - Pretty much anyone who has done a fair share of vaping and smoking will tell you the highs are different. It makes sense to me that different cannabinoids have different vaporization/combustion temperatures. When you vape you're getting cannabinoids that would otherwise be destroyed by the higher temperature of a bowl/bong. The fact that you can smoke the the crispy remnants left over after vaping and still get an effect is proof that there's actives that aren't released at vaporization temperatures. Which sort of explains why the highs from vaporizing and combustion are different- you're getting different levels of, and possible entirely different actives. I expect that in edibles, if they're cooked properly, you're definitely getting more actives than from combustion.

So, maybe the effects of the novel cannabinoids you get in edibles aren't affected by preexisting tolerance to combustion temperature cannabinoids.

I also agree that edibles seem to kick your tolerance up faster than smoking.


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Re: Differences between smoke tolerance and edible tolerance [Re: OnePerEyeM8]
    #19231223 - 12/05/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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OnePerEyeM8 said:
Weed science is definitely not my area of expertise. That said - Pretty much anyone who has done a fair share of vaping and smoking will tell you the highs are different. It makes sense to me that different cannabinoids have different vaporization/combustion temperatures. When you vape you're getting cannabinoids that would otherwise be destroyed by the higher temperature of a bowl/bong. The fact that you can smoke the the crispy remnants left over after vaping and still get an effect is proof that there's actives that aren't released at vaporization temperatures. Which sort of explains why the highs from vaporizing and combustion are different- you're getting different levels of, and possible entirely different actives. I expect that in edibles, if they're cooked properly, you're definitely getting more actives than from combustion.

So, maybe the effects of the novel cannabinoids you get in edibles aren't affected by preexisting tolerance to combustion temperature cannabinoids.

I also agree that edibles seem to kick your tolerance up faster than smoking.




Thanks for your detailed answer. In that case I will only make edibles for special events to avoid building up my tolerance too quick.
Yeah, I know for a fact that the high you get when smoking is very different from the one you get when eating MJ :grin: and that it is due to the cannabinoids you absorb when eating, which are otherwise destroyed by the high temperatures of a joint/bong. I haven't vaped yet but I would really like to haha
Could you tell me the main differences between the high you get when using a vaporizer compared to smoking? I guess it depends a lot on the person but I would like to have a general idea :tongue2:

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Re: Differences between smoke tolerance and edible tolerance [Re: Psychoneironaut]
    #19231245 - 12/05/13 01:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

considering you can smoke vaped buds and get pretty damn high , its more the concentrations are somewhat less variable in that certain heat will vape more of the cbd your looking for in contrast to turning it to ash.

on a side note, lightly vaped buds can make very good edibles if you absolutely don't want to smoke at all any more.


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Re: Differences between smoke tolerance and edible tolerance [Re: Psychoneironaut]
    #19231878 - 12/05/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Psychoneironaut said:

Thanks for your detailed answer. In that case I will only make edibles for special events to avoid building up my tolerance too quick.
Yeah, I know for a fact that the high you get when smoking is very different from the one you get when eating MJ :grin: and that it is due to the cannabinoids you absorb when eating, which are otherwise destroyed by the high temperatures of a joint/bong. I haven't vaped yet but I would really like to haha
Could you tell me the main differences between the high you get when using a vaporizer compared to smoking? I guess it depends a lot on the person but I would like to have a general idea :tongue2:

Peace!




Sure man. I agree it depends a lot on the person, but I think in general you can expect a more "energetic" high from vaping. A lot of people online seem to lean that way, and it's definitely what my experience has been. Normally when I smoke I feel so relaxed and cozy that not moving is usually preferable, pretty much regardless of whether it's sativa or indica dominant. When I vape I don't notice that feeling quite as much. Much more inclined talk, do things, move around, etc. It seems like when I vape I'm much less likely to experience sluggish confusing thoughts than when I smoke. Kind of like vaping just gives you a clearer headspace. I sort of hate using this term to describe drug effects, but it feels "cleaner" to me.

I definitely prefer vaping to smoking for all those reasons, and the fact that it's totally easy on your throat/lungs is an added bonus.

I recommend one of these.

They're totally a rip off of the Magic Flight Launch Box, but they're a third the price and honestly work very very close to as well. I've used both and the MFLB heats up a little faster, and the device itself is a tiny bit smaller. Definitely not worth the extra 50-70 dollars though. I've had mine for a year and used it probably every other night on average and it's held up great.


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