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OfflineLittleDaddy
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Possible Guidelines on Personal Use of Drugs
    #19227402 - 12/04/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hello everyone, I'm relatively new to the community and I wanted to share my newfound opinion on drugs and the role they play - this is basically the guidelines that I have been abiding by.

(I'm listening to this beautiful song atm


First off, drugs that are physically dangerous should be avoided/consumption that makes them dangerous must be avoided.

Second off, drugs should primarily be utilized as a form of social interaction - not for personal use.

Third, psychedelics can only show you the door. From there it's up to you to dictate your life and move forward, not up to the drug.

Fourth, everyday consumption isn't healthy - whether it be physical or psychological.

No strict guidelines, but just being conscious of abuse and doorways to addiction.
So alcohol isn't dangerous if it's only a couple drinks every now and again. Tobacco is cool if it's like a blunt or a chew with some buds less than once a month or so - even then it's like what's the point if there are drugs that can be utilized that aren't harmful? lol. If you're bored of those drugs then maybe you're using too much.
Smoking pot everyday doesn't settle me into reality and causes anxiety - if anything it makes me desire a bowl at the end of the day, which causes me to miss out on the day; it's a great way to get friends around and to be comfortable just doing nothing but laughin and sharing stories, though. MDMA could be used to engender intimacy in a struggling relationship - like a catalyst to help each other fix one another's problems if they are having a fallout. Psychedelics could be used every once in a while to provide some introspective thought - once again like a catalyst to see where to go/view the progress.

I want to hear your guys' and girls' opinions on this because I feel like these are universal guidelines that I think everyone could abide by. I have often thought that no one can truly be happy smoking pot everyday/drinking alcohol everyday, but maybe that's because I can't (that's not the only point of this thread, though, so don't single it down to that subject).


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Re: Drugs Role in Society [Re: LittleDaddy] * 1
    #19227405 - 12/04/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Cool story bro.


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Re: Drugs Role in Society [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #19227420 - 12/04/13 03:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Fuck society.  It can go shit its fictional self in its fictional mouth


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Re: Drugs Role in Society [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #19227435 - 12/04/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What people want out of their drug use varies a lot from person to person.  How could someone abide by those guidelines if what they want from drug use is different than you?  Using drugs and the reasons why are very personal things and I wouldn't want to be subjected to someone else's idea of what I should or should not do.  That's more or less the same situation we're in now with the government and its drug war.


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Re: Drugs Role in Society [Re: abltsandwich]
    #19227444 - 12/04/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Bitter Cactus said:
Cool story bro.




There's no point in posting that. If you don't agree then post your opinion.
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Fuck society.  It can go shit its fictional self in its fictional mouth




I wrote society in the title before I wrote, and the point of it isn't directed around society, but personal use of drugs.
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What people want out of their drug use varies a lot from person to person.  How could someone abide by those guidelines if what they want from drug use is different than you?




I'm not saying that we all agree on what we want, but I'm wondering if people can genuinely be content with life while their drug use doesn't abide by those types of guidelines.


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Re: Drugs Role in Society [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #19227450 - 12/04/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You take some drugs, other people take other drugs.


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Re: Drugs Role in Society [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #19227462 - 12/04/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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LittleDaddy said:
I'm not saying that we all agree on what we want, but I'm wondering if people can genuinely be content with life while their drug use doesn't abide by those types of guidelines.




Who cares?  Drug use is a personal thing and the widely variable reasons anyone does them are their business. 


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Re: Drugs Role in Society [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #19227468 - 12/04/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Philosophically I have never heard a cogent argument that the rat that chooses cocaine over food is living a diminished life.


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Re: Drugs Role in Society [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19227498 - 12/04/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Bitter Cactus said:
You take some drugs, other people take other drugs.




Yes, but what's the point of taking drugs that are potentially harmful? If your body's a vessel for your mind, why would you want to harm it instead of taking the plenty of drugs that aren't harmful.

(If that's what you were referring to)
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LittleDaddy said:
I'm not saying that we all agree on what we want, but I'm wondering if people can genuinely be content with life while their drug use doesn't abide by those types of guidelines.




Who cares?  Drug use is a personal thing and the widely variable reasons anyone does them is their business.




Drug use is a personal thing, but the point of those guidelines is to use drugs while being content with life. If you're using them to cover up things or are addicted then there's a problem (at least for me).
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Philosophically I have never heard a cogent argument that the rat that chooses cocaine over food is living a diminished life.




Like I said, your body is a vessel for your mind. If you take drugs that drastically damage the physical channel of your mind (your brain) then why would you take it because it could possibly damage the channel? If you damage the channel then your reality is fucked, which I guess if you find a way to be happy like that then that's okay to you. Same thing with eating lots of shitty food - why - for temporary pleasure?


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Re: Drugs Role in Society [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #19227517 - 12/04/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Basically if you damage the channel then you damage your chance at happiness.


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Re: Drugs Role in Society [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #19227609 - 12/04/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Philosophically I have never heard a cogent argument that the rat that chooses cocaine over food is living a diminished life.




Like I said, your body is a vessel for your mind. If you take drugs that drastically damage the physical channel of your mind (your brain) then why would you take it because it could possibly damage the channel? If you damage the channel then your reality is fucked, which I guess if you find a way to be happy like that then that's okay to you. Same thing with eating lots of shitty food - why - for temporary pleasure?




All life is temporary.


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Re: Drugs Role in Society [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #19227667 - 12/04/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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LittleDaddy said:
Yes, but what's the point of taking drugs that are potentially harmful? If your body's a vessel for your mind, why would you want to harm it instead of taking the plenty of drugs that aren't harmful.




Dude. Every drug is harmful. Even marijuana and caffeine, two simple, popular pleasures which I admittedly enjoy as well, can have harmful effects. There's just no such thing as "harmless".


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Re: Drugs Role in Society [Re: Synthe]
    #19227683 - 12/04/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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LittleDaddy said:
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zappaisgod said:
Philosophically I have never heard a cogent argument that the rat that chooses cocaine over food is living a diminished life.




Like I said, your body is a vessel for your mind. If you take drugs that drastically damage the physical channel of your mind (your brain) then why would you take it because it could possibly damage the channel? If you damage the channel then your reality is fucked, which I guess if you find a way to be happy like that then that's okay to you. Same thing with eating lots of shitty food - why - for temporary pleasure?




All life is temporary.





Life is temporary, no debate, but the mind is eternal. I believe when you become one with your mind in life then you are released from the suffering of existence. But that can only be solidified with opinion and little physical evidence.
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Yes, but what's the point of taking drugs that are potentially harmful? If your body's a vessel for your mind, why would you want to harm it instead of taking the plenty of drugs that aren't harmful.




Dude. Every drug is harmful. Even marijuana and caffeine, two simple, popular pleasures which I admittedly enjoy as well, can have harmful effects. There's just no such thing as "harmless".




I should clarify, I mean drastically harmful. And yes, that's true, they are harmful in abuse, but not in moderate use.


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