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OfflineOregonBlueShroom
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interesting species kinda looks like both Hypholoma and Panaeolus
    #19227143 - 12/04/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

My guess is that its a Hypholoma. But one ive never seen before. any thoughts? Spore prints later (im impatient and wanted to share my find)


Habitat:
woody debri with blackberrie briers throughout. for the sake of a better description i snapped a crappy cell phone pic of the habitat


Gills:
Gill color very light basically white when very immature, maturing to shades of gray/brownish. the gill color looks like an in between between normal hypholoma gill color and psilocybe gill color.



Stem:
more pale when young, turning more red when mature/picked




Cap:
hygrophanous. yellowish color.



Spore print color:
in progress will post later


Bruising:
none noted

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Re: interesting species kinda looks like both Hypholoma and Panaeolus [Re: OregonBlueShroom]
    #19227224 - 12/04/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm thinking Deconica species due to the hygrophanous caps and lack of bluing.


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Re: interesting species kinda looks like both Hypholoma and Panaeolus [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
    #19227334 - 12/04/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Those are weird man... Maybe some species of Psathyrella?


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Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus

(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: interesting species kinda looks like both Hypholoma and Panaeolus [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19227358 - 12/04/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Definitely weird,not sure what those are.


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Re: interesting species kinda looks like both Hypholoma and Panaeolus [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
    #19227366 - 12/04/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hypholoma for sure. imo

Wait, kuehneromyces?


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Re: interesting species kinda looks like both Hypholoma and Panaeolus [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
    #19227392 - 12/04/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

They remind me of multiple genus...

Hypholoma, panaeolus, deconica, Galerina even maybe.  Some of the medium sized ones look sooo much like a Deconica/psilocybe to me. At first I thought i found a small patch of P pelliculosa when i picked the first few small specimens, then i noticed more all around me some alot larger.


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Re: interesting species kinda looks like both Hypholoma and Panaeolus [Re: Ganzig]
    #19227419 - 12/04/13 03:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The gills look dark brown on my monitor.:shrug:
I'm changing my mind and agreeing with Ganzig.:stoned:
Maybe something like H.marginatum.


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Re: interesting species kinda looks like both Hypholoma and Panaeolus [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
    #19227454 - 12/04/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Blue-FunGuy said:
The gills look dark brown on my monitor.:shrug:
I'm changing my mind and agreeing with Ganzig.:stoned:
Maybe something like H.marginatum.



Why not Deconica? I think this genus needs even further revision after things have just willy-nilly been moved to it since they don't contain an active alkaloid. Some of the deconica I find have fibrous caps , while others have psilocybe-esque hygrophanating caps


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Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus

(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: interesting species kinda looks like both Hypholoma and Panaeolus [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
    #19227459 - 12/04/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah i thought they looked like Hypholoma because the yellowish shade of the cap, The gill color on all of them is like a mix of brown/gray. It doesnt really fit into the color i normally see hypholoma gills but the shade of gray definately also makes me think hypholoma.

If it is Hypholoma though its a unique looking one. Usually I know a Hypholoma as soon as i see it.


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Re: interesting species kinda looks like both Hypholoma and Panaeolus [Re: OregonBlueShroom]
    #19227510 - 12/04/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The gills say Hypholoma to me as well.


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Re: interesting species kinda looks like both Hypholoma and Panaeolus [Re: Ganzig]
    #19227551 - 12/04/13 04:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hypholoma aff. marginatum.


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Re: interesting species kinda looks like both Hypholoma and Panaeolus [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19228304 - 12/04/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Hashfinger said:
Those are weird man... Maybe some species of Psathyrella?





i'd put my wager on black [spores]

IDK Deconica, are they black spored as well?


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Re: interesting species kinda looks like both Hypholoma and Panaeolus [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #19228333 - 12/04/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hypholoma marginatum


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Re: interesting species kinda looks like both Hypholoma and Panaeolus [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19228682 - 12/04/13 08:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

thats why i don't play roulette

but i learned it likes conifer


Edited by RuralAnomaly (12/04/13 08:26 PM)


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