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'legal personhood' for chimpanzee
    #19226612 - 12/04/13 01:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

New York lawsuit seeks 'legal personhood' for chimpanzee
By Bernard Vaughan and Daniel Wiessner, Reuters
NEW YORK — A U.S. animal rights group has filed what it said is the first lawsuit seeking to establish the "legal personhood" of chimpanzees.
The non-profit Nonhuman Rights Project asked a New York state court to declare a 26-year-old chimp named Tommy "a cognitively complex autonomous legal person with the fundamental legal right not to be imprisoned."
The lawsuit filed Monday seeks a declaration that Tommy's "detention" in a "small, dank, cement cage in a cavernous dark shed" in central New York is unlawful and demands his immediate release to a primate sanctuary.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/03/21742085-new-york-lawsuit-seeks-legal-personhood-for-chimpanzee

AND be given the right to vote. HELL they can't screw things up worst then the Flea Baggers did.


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Re: 'legal personhood' for chimpanzee [Re: sweeper54]
    #19226618 - 12/04/13 01:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i believe India did something like this recently with Dolphins, Declaring them 'non human persons'


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Re: 'legal personhood' for chimpanzee [Re: psyconaught] * 1
    #19227091 - 12/04/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

if corporations are "people" then theres no reason that a chimpanzee..or for that matter..my shoe.. couldnt be considered a "person" too...


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Re: 'legal personhood' for chimpanzee [Re: sweeper54]
    #19227098 - 12/04/13 02:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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sweeper54 said:
New York lawsuit seeks 'legal personhood' for chimpanzee
By Bernard Vaughan and Daniel Wiessner, Reuters
NEW YORK — A U.S. animal rights group has filed what it said is the first lawsuit seeking to establish the "legal personhood" of chimpanzees.
The non-profit Nonhuman Rights Project asked a New York state court to declare a 26-year-old chimp named Tommy "a cognitively complex autonomous legal person with the fundamental legal right not to be imprisoned."
The lawsuit filed Monday seeks a declaration that Tommy's "detention" in a "small, dank, cement cage in a cavernous dark shed" in central New York is unlawful and demands his immediate release to a primate sanctuary.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/03/21742085-new-york-lawsuit-seeks-legal-personhood-for-chimpanzee

AND be given the right to vote. HELL they can't screw things up worst then the Flea Baggers did.



The flea baggers didn't elect Obama.


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Re: 'legal personhood' for chimpanzee [Re: Annapurna1]
    #19227116 - 12/04/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Annapurna1 said:
if corporations are "people" then theres no reason that a chimpanzee..or for that matter..my shoe.. couldnt be considered a "person" too...



the difference is that corporations are groups of humans. Chimps and shoes are not


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Re: 'legal personhood' for chimpanzee [Re: Annapurna1] * 1
    #19227138 - 12/04/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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if corporations are "people" then theres no reason that a chimpanzee..or for that matter..my shoe.. couldnt be considered a "person"...



:picard:  Do you purposely choose to be ignorant about this?  I mean, at this point you have to actively elect to be wrong.  This has been posted so many times it is becoming ridiculous.  Corporate personhood is a legal fiction that was necessary to allow people to sue corporations and enter into contracts with them.  Are unions not allowed to collectively produce political ads?  Why yes, yes they are.  Are news media entities, corporations all, not allowed to opine in print and through visual or radio media to their hearts' content?  Why yes, yes they are.  Are you and your dingbat friends not allowed to caterwaul all you can afford to caterwaul in any public media?  Why yes, yes you are.  That you argue that a collection of stock holding citizens should be constrained from expressing their viewpoint collectively speaks volumes to your intrinsic fascism and that of all of the left.


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Re: 'legal personhood' for chimpanzee [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19227247 - 12/04/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

psyconaught said:
Quote:

Annapurna1 said:
if corporations are "people" then theres no reason that a chimpanzee..or for that matter..my shoe.. couldnt be considered a "person" too...



the difference is that corporations are groups of humans. Chimps and shoes are not




Not the first time lil'bushies trashing of the US and a Bad slate of candidates did

The second time once people saw what the fuck they did in '10
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zappaisgod said:
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sweeper54 said:
New York lawsuit seeks 'legal personhood' for chimpanzee
By Bernard Vaughan and Daniel Wiessner, Reuters
NEW YORK — A U.S. animal rights group has filed what it said is the first lawsuit seeking to establish the "legal personhood" of chimpanzees.
The non-profit Nonhuman Rights Project asked a New York state court to declare a 26-year-old chimp named Tommy "a cognitively complex autonomous legal person with the fundamental legal right not to be imprisoned."
The lawsuit filed Monday seeks a declaration that Tommy's "detention" in a "small, dank, cement cage in a cavernous dark shed" in central New York is unlawful and demands his immediate release to a primate sanctuary.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/03/21742085-new-york-lawsuit-seeks-legal-personhood-for-chimpanzee

AND be given the right to vote. HELL they can't screw things up worst then the Flea Baggers did.



The flea baggers didn't elect Obama.




Not the first time lil'bushies trashing of the US and a Bad slate of candidates did

The second time once people saw what the fuck they did in '10 electing an obstructionist party and re-elected him, bad economy and all.


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Re: 'legal personhood' for chimpanzee [Re: sweeper54]
    #19227253 - 12/04/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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sweeper54 said:
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psyconaught said:
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Annapurna1 said:
if corporations are "people" then theres no reason that a chimpanzee..or for that matter..my shoe.. couldnt be considered a "person" too...



the difference is that corporations are groups of humans. Chimps and shoes are not




Not the first time lil'bushies trashing of the US and a Bad slate of candidates did

The second time once people saw what the fuck they did in '10
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what are you talking about?


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Re: 'legal personhood' for chimpanzee [Re: psyconaught]
    #19227260 - 12/04/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

psyconaught said:
Quote:

Annapurna1 said:
if corporations are "people" then theres no reason that a chimpanzee..or for that matter..my shoe.. couldnt be considered a "person" too...



the difference is that corporations are groups of humans. Chimps and shoes are not




That would be "groups of humans" that already have a right to vote individually.


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Re: 'legal personhood' for chimpanzee [Re: sweeper54]
    #19227269 - 12/04/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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sweeper54 said:
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psyconaught said:
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Annapurna1 said:
if corporations are "people" then theres no reason that a chimpanzee..or for that matter..my shoe.. couldnt be considered a "person" too...



the difference is that corporations are groups of humans. Chimps and shoes are not




That would be "groups of humans" that already have a right to vote individually.



but acting as a group they loose rights? Why is cooperation shunned?


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Re: 'legal personhood' for chimpanzee [Re: sweeper54]
    #19227272 - 12/04/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That is correct.  Corporations are not allowed to vote.


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Re: 'legal personhood' for chimpanzee [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19227394 - 12/04/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Except maybe for American idol contestants.


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Re: 'legal personhood' for chimpanzee [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #19227403 - 12/04/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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That would be "groups of humans" that already have a right to vote individually.



Why are you so against freedom of speech?


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Re: 'legal personhood' for chimpanzee [Re: Enlil]
    #19227424 - 12/04/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Because he can't persuade


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Re: 'legal personhood' for chimpanzee [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19227446 - 12/04/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I see...Speech is not an effective tool for him, so he'd like to level the playing field by silencing everyone.

Not a bad plan, if one is unwilling to learn.


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Re: 'legal personhood' for chimpanzee [Re: Enlil]
    #19227449 - 12/04/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It's what thugs do.


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Re: 'legal personhood' for chimpanzee [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19227473 - 12/04/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thuggery can be quite effective in the short term.


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Re: 'legal personhood' for chimpanzee [Re: Enlil]
    #19266638 - 12/12/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Not much of a future in that line of work I imagine...


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