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Question regarding visuals
    #19226148 - 12/04/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hello all. So I'm not entirely new to psychedelics but compared to some of the more seasoned trippers 'round here I guess I'm not exactly experienced either. I have about 6 mushroom trips under my belt, and have always enjoyed myself, 5 of those trips being 3.5g and the most recent being 4.5g.

Of course on shrooms there's that level of visual distortion; ie. walls breathing, things shifting/morphing around, colors changing. However, I read trip reports of similar doses where people say they've seen all sorts of crazy shit like randomly things will be covered in clocks or eyes, or something will completely "melt" or fall apart in front of them.

My question is, when these types of visuals happen to people is it like, you kind of IMAGINE seeing them in your head (the same way if I told you, sober, to imagine a wall covered in eyes. you could see it in your head, but you're not actually looking at it)? Or do you legitimately SEE these types of hallucinations in front of your eyes?


The reason I ask is because I've never "seen" these types of hallucinations before while tripping. What will happen with me generally, is something like this:

This is a picture of the music building at the university I attend. One night last summer I was tripping with some buddies walking around campus and the strange texture of the brickwork caught my eye. In my head, I could imagine the darker blocks kind of "dancing" and moving left down the line in a really weird, trippy-cartoonish kind of way but I didn't actually SEE it.

Haha hopefully this makes sense, and of course I do believe that those kind of visuals exist I just have yet to experience them. Any input is appreciated :smile:


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Re: Question regarding visuals [Re: jesslet]
    #19226199 - 12/04/13 11:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you dose high enough you will actually see the things people talk about, melting and running etc.  It's not imagination, but genuine hallucination.    For me 3.5-5g will do that, but I tend to have a low threshold for getting visuals etc.  Maybe with the way you metabolize mushrooms you want to up the dose if you want more OEVs.  The other option is to keep your dose in the 4-5g range and go the lemon-tea route.
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Also, the longer you look at something intently, the more your visuals develop, so it's good to just sit down with an art-book or something cool to look at and give it a few minutes for the visuals to start developing, then keep looking through the peak of intensity, the visuals will come in pretty predictable wave patterns and will ebb and flow as you go along in your trip.


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Re: Question regarding visuals [Re: jesslet]
    #19226206 - 12/04/13 11:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You actually see it....  With your mind. The answer is kind of both.  It's like your mind imagines it but under the influence you can't distinguish between what your mind imagines and what your eyes see. Acid always gives me more convincing visuals to where I'm not always sure what I'm actually seeing and what hallucinations my mind is creating. For example on two hits of decent blotter I was watching a scratched up dvd that was skipping. I literally couldn't tell if the movie was paused or not because the picture was still moving around so much. It was paused.


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Re: Question regarding visuals [Re: searching]
    #19226221 - 12/04/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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searching said:
You actually see it....  With your mind. The answer is kind of both.  It's like your mind imagines it but under the influence you can't distinguish between what your mind imagines and what your eyes see. Acid always gives me more convincing visuals to where I'm not always sure what I'm actually seeing and what hallucinations my mind is creating. For example on two hits of decent blotter I was watching a scratched up dvd that was skipping. I literally couldn't tell if the movie was paused or not because the picture was still moving around so much. It was paused.




Yeah, acid has way more intense visuals, more solid-state textures and etchings whereas shrooms have a lot of whirling clouds and mists and colored vapors.


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Re: Question regarding visuals [Re: RiparianZoneJunky]
    #19226271 - 12/04/13 11:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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The answer is kind of both.




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Re: Question regarding visuals [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19226314 - 12/04/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I get OEV very strongly. It is like you are literally seeing them not just imagining them. IME

I'm lucky though 3.5g has me completely visually disconnected from reality, I have a very low tolerance to any psychoactives.


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Re: Question regarding visuals [Re: Lizard Eyes]
    #19226323 - 12/04/13 11:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Lizard Eyes said:
I get OEV very strongly. It is like you are literally seeing them not just imagining them. IME

I'm lucky though 3.5g has me completely visually disconnected from reality, I have a very low tolerance to any psychoactives.





I need about 8-10 grams for that, and I rarely trip so tolerance is not a factor


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Re: Question regarding visuals [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19226330 - 12/04/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I ate 3.5g of what were labeled "Copelandia" in Amsterdam once. I definitely seen the road moving like waves. Cars had no wheels. And there were definitely colored spheres big enough for a human to stand in. I would blink to clear them and they were still there. haha Was an awesome trip for sure!!!!


People have different tolerances and reactions. I agree the longer you stare at something the more it will be effected. Physically speaking its pretty safe to up your dose. You won't OD. But it may send you off to a place you weren't ready for very easily.


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Re: Question regarding visuals [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19226336 - 12/04/13 12:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Lizard Eyes said:
I get OEV very strongly. It is like you are literally seeing them not just imagining them. IME

I'm lucky though 3.5g has me completely visually disconnected from reality, I have a very low tolerance to any psychoactives.





I need about 8-10 grams for that, and I rarely trip so tolerance is not a factor





sorry tolerance was the wrong thing to call it.... ermm I don't really know how else to put it?  I have just always needed much less than all my friends to get much further than they did? I'm a lightweight? I get fucked up really easily on very little?


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Re: Question regarding visuals [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19226348 - 12/04/13 12:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Lizard Eyes said:
I get OEV very strongly. It is like you are literally seeing them not just imagining them. IME

I'm lucky though 3.5g has me completely visually disconnected from reality, I have a very low tolerance to any psychoactives.





I need about 8-10 grams for that, and I rarely trip so tolerance is not a factor




Yeah, everybody has different thresholds for psychedelics, 3.5g cubes is a solid level 4 trip for me, 6g has me laid out on level 5.  @OP, if you're not getting to where you want to be, take a 2 week break and up the dosage.  :shrug:


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Re: Question regarding visuals [Re: RiparianZoneJunky]
    #19226440 - 12/04/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the replies everyone. It's not that I'm particularly unsatisfied with my trips cuz I'm definitely trippin lol :psychsplit: Just was curious as to how I/everyone else hallucinates :laugh:


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Re: Question regarding visuals [Re: jesslet]
    #19226563 - 12/04/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Only having 1 trip under my belt I can attest that you can see things if you look at them long enough. For me, 3.5g of cyans wasn't enough to have full time visuals. But I did stare at the ground for about 30 sec and it would start to move and morph but go away after I looked away.

Everything I looked at, especially plants looked way more "magical" not necessarily changing the original way they looked but adding a sort of magic to them. Almost exactly like alice in wonderland.


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Re: Question regarding visuals [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #19226696 - 12/04/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Only having 1 trip under my belt I can attest that you can see things if you look at them long enough. For me, 3.5g of cyans wasn't enough to have full time visuals. But I did stare at the ground for about 30 sec and it would start to move and morph but go away after I looked away.

Everything I looked at, especially plants looked way more "magical" not necessarily changing the original way they looked but adding a sort of magic to them. Almost exactly like alice in wonderland.




:eek:  3.5g cyans would have me catatonic.  :lol:


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Re: Question regarding visuals [Re: RiparianZoneJunky]
    #19226760 - 12/04/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I guess my body is different. I took 2.5 dried lemon tekked and barely felt anything until after I ate another gram in food 2 hours later. Maybe it was only a 2.5g trip with an extended come down from what I ate. I don't know but it all worked out marvelously :smile:


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Re: Question regarding visuals [Re: jesslet]
    #19226933 - 12/04/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Of course on shrooms there's that level of visual distortion; ie. walls breathing, things shifting/morphing around, colors changing. However, I read trip reports of similar doses where people say they've seen all sorts of crazy shit like randomly things will be covered in clocks or eyes, or something will completely "melt" or fall apart in front of them.




Yes, those are the true hallucinations. It's why these drugs are called hallucinogens. :lol:

I once was sure I saw Elmo sitting on a rock wall across the street in front of my neighbor's house, as I walked down my driveway to get the mail.  I became convinced after a while they had acquired some sort of outdoor sculpture and placed it there.  Halfway across the street it was clearly just shadows.  But ever after that it seems to be there.

I've had ample experience at high doses of things like the walls being covered in Mayan imagery and glyphs; once in the shower I saw the tiles covered with tiny mushrooms.  I've experienced vivid tessellations in CEV, OEV I've seen myself in the mirror as a cartoon character.  During the comeup I often see vivid tiny colorful structures on rocks in the bathroom.  And it goes on and on and on.  Mostly dose related in my experience.  High enough and you'll see this stuff in broad daylight with your eyes open. :thumbup:

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