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the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% * 5
    #19225446 - 12/04/13 06:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

nowadays these American's own government could drone bomb apartment buildings in new york city to take out "terrorist threats" and people wouldn't do a fucking thing

as much as i hate the MSM... i gotta respect the hustle.


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: Thulean] * 1
    #19225457 - 12/04/13 06:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

They took no shit, but the colonies were basically the governed's equivalent of moving into the dorms... much easier to tell mom and dad fuck off that way :lol:

Really shows how we let our government swell into a Hobbes-ian leviathan.



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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: st1llnox] * 1
    #19225524 - 12/04/13 07:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The circumstances were drastically different during those times. Britain had to sail supplies and people over an ocean. Also, it wasn't like the entire population stood against Britain. Probably 40% wanted a revolution, 40% didn't want a revolution, and 20% didn't care. Once Britain started fucking up peoples farms that 20% started to care.


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: st1llnox]
    #19225545 - 12/04/13 07:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

source?


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: trampis]
    #19225548 - 12/04/13 07:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The circumstances were drastically different during those times. Britain had to sail supplies and people over an ocean. Also, it wasn't like the entire population stood against Britain. Probably 40% wanted a revolution, 40% didn't want a revolution, and 20% didn't care. Once Britain started fucking up peoples farms that 20% started to care.





i hope OP really doesnt think that an entire nation was born because of a 2% tea tax.


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: k00laid] * 1
    #19225586 - 12/04/13 07:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: psi]
    #19225657 - 12/04/13 08:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well somebody has been watching Sleepy Hollow


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: Patlal]
    #19225773 - 12/04/13 08:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Most americans are spineless when it comes to politics


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: Gilgamesh18] * 4
    #19225778 - 12/04/13 08:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Most Americans are like donkeys with blinders on.  The politicians use meaningless carrots to keep them moving in the direction the politicians choose.


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: mpd]
    #19225786 - 12/04/13 08:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

plus literally every person owned a gun, hatchet, and/or a knife. wouldnt be too hard to convince an already armed population to assemble under a popular cause


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: mpd]
    #19225793 - 12/04/13 08:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sadly that's true...


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: unknown1123]
    #19225852 - 12/04/13 09:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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source?




This is something I recall from a college history course I took in 2010. After looking for a source online I now remember that the professor actually stated 1/3 supported revolution, 1/3 did not, and 1/3 were indifferent. So it's more like 33.33333333333%

The actual percentage is widely disputed, so you can google all you want and find different claims, but I think you will consistently find that less than half of the population was in support of a revolution in the beginning.

The following is an exert from Wikipedia (I know, not the most academic resource)...

"In 2000 historian Robert Calhoon said the consensus of historians is that in the Thirteen Colonies between 40 and 45 percent of the white population supported the Patriots' cause, between 15 and 20% supported the Loyalists, and the remainder were neutral or kept a low profile"


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: trampis]
    #19225886 - 12/04/13 09:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Good stuff, but I was looking more for the source for the 2% tax, all I could find out was it was 25% tax or something for the brits


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: unknown1123]
    #19226081 - 12/04/13 10:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

From the way the thread title is worded I'm guessing that the 2% is supposed to be the amount that the existing tax was increased by.


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: psi] * 2
    #19226357 - 12/04/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Actually, the Boston Tea Party was a response to the Tea Act, enacted by British Parliament in 1773. It was actually meant to bail out the East Indies Trading Company...effectively a colonial times corporate bailout. In reality, it made tea way cheaper in the colonies...like 40% cheaper, or some such. The colonists that stormed the ships weren't angry about tea getting new taxes at all.


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: Nabuca]
    #19226365 - 12/04/13 12:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Check out the anonymous judge blows the whistle article and tell us what you think.


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: happygolucky]
    #19226601 - 12/04/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

and we only won because of the French.


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #19227481 - 12/04/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Americans are too complacent and scared.


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: mpd]
    #19227491 - 12/04/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Most Americans are like donkeys with blinders on.  The politicians use meaningless carrots to keep them moving in the direction the politicians choose.




Mmmm.... carrots.


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: Thulean]
    #19227776 - 12/04/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How can we celebrate July 4th as Independence Day when at the time, slavery was still fully accepted in America and racism was universal? How can we be proud of that?


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: Synthe]
    #19227820 - 12/04/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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How can we celebrate July 4th as Independence Day when at the time, slavery was still fully accepted in America and racism was universal? How can we be proud of that?




that was hilariously off topic.


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: k00laid]
    #19227895 - 12/04/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Independance from Britian?

Baby steps bro. AA's get the whole month of february. I think there should be one whole day where we give Britian the middle finger.


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: Enjoywho]
    #19227968 - 12/04/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Lol OP, it was a little more complicated than that.

I don't think we're scared, but complacent sure. I think that really, the overwhelming majority are well off enough that they just don't care. They hear about one of the hot button issues and get riled up, maybe go to a rally. They get pissed off about taxes when they get their paycheck; but they still make enough to buy their new xbox, so who the fuck cares?

Revolutions happen because people see the king rolling around in a new gold carriage while they are forced to eat shoe leather, not because of budget differences in the legislature of a few percentage points.


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: Lynnch]
    #19227973 - 12/04/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Lol OP, it was a little more complicated than that.

I don't think we're scared, but complacent sure. I think that really, the overwhelming majority are well off enough that they just don't care. They hear about one of the hot button issues and get riled up, maybe go to a rally. They get pissed off about taxes when they get their paycheck; but they still make enough to buy their new xbox, so who the fuck cares?

Revolutions happen because people see the king rolling around in a new gold carriage while they are forced to eat shoe leather, not because of budget differences in the legislature of a few percentage points.




correcto

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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: Synthe]
    #19228028 - 12/04/13 06:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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How can we celebrate July 4th as Independence Day when at the time, slavery was still fully accepted in America and racism was universal? How can we be proud of that?



That's not the reason's you celebrate it?


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: Synthe]
    #19228049 - 12/04/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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How can we celebrate July 4th as Independence Day when at the time, slavery was still fully accepted in America and racism was universal? How can we be proud of that?




for one, racism was widely accepted everywhere in the western world. white supremacy could be equated to copernicanism in the middle ages. and while i think everyone should know our history warts and all, one thing that sticks in my craw is how spain is generally overlooked in discussions like this. those motherfuckers were brutal. the 17th - later 20th centuries were fucking bloody all around.


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: millzy]
    #19228134 - 12/04/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This thread is fucking  :tard:


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: k00laid]
    #19228181 - 12/04/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

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How can we celebrate July 4th as Independence Day when at the time, slavery was still fully accepted in America and racism was universal? How can we be proud of that?




that was hilariously off topic.



Yeah I guess it was a bit off topic, but still, the revolutionaries of the American Revolution had slaves chained up back home while they were out shooting Brits.


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: Synthe]
    #19228191 - 12/04/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

the american revolution started because you all touch yourselves at night, and because i do too


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: Thulean]
    #19228194 - 12/04/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Fuck the TEA, it was all about the rum!
And that is worth fighting for.


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: Synthe]
    #19228459 - 12/04/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

k00laid said:
Quote:

Synthe said:
How can we celebrate July 4th as Independence Day when at the time, slavery was still fully accepted in America and racism was universal? How can we be proud of that?




that was hilariously off topic.



Yeah I guess it was a bit off topic, but still, the revolutionaries of the American Revolution had slaves chained up back home while they were out shooting Brits.





they were racist

and we are species-ist

when everyone ascends to the astral plane they will say the same thing about you eating meat.


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: k00laid]
    #19228563 - 12/04/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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k00laid said:
Quote:

Synthe said:
Quote:

k00laid said:
Quote:

Synthe said:
How can we celebrate July 4th as Independence Day when at the time, slavery was still fully accepted in America and racism was universal? How can we be proud of that?




that was hilariously off topic.



Yeah I guess it was a bit off topic, but still, the revolutionaries of the American Revolution had slaves chained up back home while they were out shooting Brits.





they were racist

and we are species-ist

when everyone ascends to the astral plane they will say the same thing about you eating meat.



pahahahahah fucking dumbest shit I've read tonight.


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: unknown1123]
    #19228568 - 12/04/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:smug:


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Re: the American Revolution happened because Britain raised taxes on tea by 2% [Re: k00laid]
    #19228626 - 12/04/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Bullshit the Boston Tea Party didn't cause the American Revolution. There have been plenty of rebellions since before the tea party, a notable one being the burning of the HMS Gaspee.


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