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OfflineD.M.T
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Re: $40,000,000.00 in Bitcoins stolen (moved) [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19223701 - 12/03/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Repertoire89 said:
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D.M.T said:
the police will find out who he is before any cartel does :ilold:




Werd, what police? Interpol?
The police aren't even looking for the guy.



I know - that's part of the joke. :grin:

though I'm sure there are multiple crimes they could charge him with if they wanted. they might go after him. may even have an investigation going on that we don't know about since sheep was advertised in a few well-known papers.


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Re: $40,000,000.00 in Bitcoins stolen (moved) [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19223760 - 12/03/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you file a complaint and say he stole your drug money maybe the police will look into it for you.


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Re: $40,000,000.00 in Bitcoins stolen (moved) [Re: Synthe]
    #19224026 - 12/03/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Synthe said:

It worked when it worked.






I hear ya. And i can understand a lot of people being affected by the shutdown of SR, and probably even a good number of dependent / desperate people. But people need to realize that SR's shutdown created a situation that is almost too good for scammers.


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Re: $40,000,000.00 in Bitcoins stolen (moved) [Re: CidneyIndole] * 1
    #19225237 - 12/04/13 03:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

On 2 November 2013, I was contacted on IRC by a pseudonymous chatter, "an
anonymous security hobbyist". He said he had some information for me if I would
swear to keep it secret. I agreed as long as it didn't involve violence like
hitmen.

He had been impressed by [my bet against Sheep &
BMR](http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkRoad/comments/1pko9y/the_bet_bmr_and_sheep_to_die_in_a_year/)
and agreed with me that the official Sheep story about `sheepmarketplace.com`
was too stupid for words, and wanted to share the info with me. He then told me
he had just finished researching Sheep Marketplace and was highly confident that
the operator was a Czech programmer by the name of "Tomáš Jiřikovský", and
further, earlier that day he had mailed off his results to the FBI. (He also
claimed credit for the BMR & PBF leaks.)

After reading through his results, checking some of the links to see if they
were as described, agreeing with him that Tomas matches the profile for the
Sheep operator uncannily well, and reflecting how stupid I was to not look
harder at sheepmarketplace.com because as soon as you see the forum posts where
Tomas complains about the problems of running a Bitcoin-using hidden service
it's completely obvious that Tomas=Sheep, I suggested he contact Tomas. He
declined, saying he didn't want to spook Tomas (he is not a big fan of drugs),
although he agreed I could release the results within 7 months. The most I
managed to get out of him was permission to [post a cryptographic hash
precommitment](http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkRoad/comments/1ptd6b/precommitment_proof_of_knowledge_about_a/):

    $ echo 'Sheep Marketplace was founded and run by Tomáš JiÅ™ikovský (random
    nonce: 19093)' | sha512sum
    43a4c3b7d0a0654e1919ad6e7cbfa6f8d41bcce8f1320fbe511b6d7c38609ce5a2d39328e02e9777b339152987ea02b3f8adb57d84377fa7ccb708658b7d2edc
    -

I was as precise as I could be at the time; saying it was a precommitment to
Tomas's identity would have clearly breached the agreement.

Anyway, I took his notes, made copies of all the webpages linked in, and
prepared a single compilation in MAFF format:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/182368464/2013-11-03-sheepmarketplace-doxxing.maff

The basic overview of the findings:

1. Tomas owns the hosting service for the sheepmarketplace.com VPS server. There
  were very few domains hosted there as well, and he controlled several of them.
2. The site itself seemed to be very closely connected to SMP, using the same
  basic technologies and possibly a non-public API
3. The official excuse does not wash as sheepmarketplace.com was set up not long after
  SMP itself
4. Tomas is the earliest known promoter of SMP (1 February 2013), and recommened SMP &
  BMR over Silk Road (11 April 2013)
5. Tomas is a C++ QT Nette Framework Czech developer who runs Ubuntu, exactly like the
  SMP developer
6. Tomas has complained about the memory demand of `bitcoind` on a VPS server, and discussed
  the difficulties of functionality like email from hidden services
7. Tomas or his girlfriend are active users of Tor, as evidenced by screenshots of their
  computer
8. it's not clear what Tomas's current job is 9. but it is clear that
  as of October, he was working on an e-commerce site which was having problems
  with buggy accounting of deposits
10. Tomas posted a .htaccess file which has the same (buggy) functionality as that of SMP
11. He is an accused Bitcoin scammer

A few of these could be explained as coincidence. But all of them? At this
point, I would rate Tomas as >75% likely to be involved with SMP in some
fashion.
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Re: $40,000,000.00 in Bitcoins stolen (moved) [Re: ilus]
    #19225304 - 12/04/13 04:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

even if the site runs away with the money, it is a very minor loss to the sellers

compared to what they risk by being busted on the streets and the cops taking all their money..

online they only lose a weeks worth, they wont even notice that small amount likely most of them

online selling is no risk, if they know what they do

I will probably try out Silkroad 2.0 when it has been up for a while, just never send to own address

the only thing cooler than online drugs, would be drugs on IRC


Edited by lessismore (12/04/13 04:24 AM)


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Re: $40,000,000.00 in Bitcoins stolen (moved) [Re: lessismore] * 1
    #19225566 - 12/04/13 07:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's a lot of money and will no doubt wipe out some vendors and users.


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Re: $40,000,000.00 in Bitcoins stolen (moved) [Re: fapjack]
    #19227310 - 12/04/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you were a reliable trustworthy vendor would you be willing to hop on next site that may or may not do the same thing? Scam vendors and scam sites are the new normal whether people want to admit it or not. Glad I call a guy for my drugs.


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Re: $40,000,000.00 in Bitcoins stolen (moved) [Re: my3rdeye]
    #19228617 - 12/04/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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my3rdeye said:
If you were a reliable trustworthy vendor would you be willing to hop on next site that may or may not do the same thing? Scam vendors and scam sites are the new normal whether people want to admit it or not. Glad I call a guy for my drugs.



But there is a place for these "Legit" sites like SR and holding onto the hope that $10,000 can be made like that will make individuals, vendors and buyers alike, jump into something not quite proven to be safe.


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Re: $40,000,000.00 in Bitcoins stolen (moved) [Re: my3rdeye]
    #19228738 - 12/04/13 08:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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my3rdeye said:
If you were a reliable trustworthy vendor would you be willing to hop on next site that may or may not do the same thing? Scam vendors and scam sites are the new normal whether people want to admit it or not. Glad I call a guy for my drugs.




Now see...from my perspective, there will always be the temptation to take the money and run. Especially if you run a staff of a very few trusted individuals, on an anonymous site that cannot be located. Further, these individuals have control of both sides of the currency via escrow. Theres no risk, and all of the advantage to a scam, lies in the hands of the site owners. Unless your name is Ross, that is.

I think that the next generation of anonymous market, needs to be more anonymous, and more decentralized. The feds haven't been able to stop torrents since they came to be. And I really think that if a marketplace could follow that idea, then it would be unstoppable.

It would be modular, self policing, and constantly evolving into a better more secure place to do business. It doesn't make any sense to centralize a marketplace, and the escrow. The temptation is just way too high.


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Re: $40,000,000.00 in Bitcoins stolen (moved) [Re: ilus] * 2
    #19231906 - 12/05/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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illustrain said:

further, earlier that day he had mailed off his results to the FBI. (He also
claimed credit for the BMR & PBF leaks.)




Rat.


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