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Does bacterial contamination prevent fruiting? *Update with good news*
    #19225188 - 12/04/13 02:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Frank mentioned in another thread (www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19222059) that a tub with what looks like bacterial contamination most likely won't fruit. Is it common for tubs with bacterial infections not to fruit? Or would the contam not cause it to try extra hard to fruit as happens with mold contams (trich and the like)?

I ask because I have a tub which is taking ages to pin. It's been 10 days and counting and, although the myc is PE and hence it is not unusual for pins to be this delayed, I am starting to get antsy and worried.

I noticed a day or two ago that two of the corners are slightly discoloured and it seems to look like what people are saying is bacteria. So now I am worried. I have searched the board and haven't found an explicit statement that bacteria prevents fruiting but instead only found hints and implications here and there as in the above thread.

So, would a bacterial infection prevent fruiting?


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Re: Does bacterial contamination prevent fruiting? [Re: 4sak3n]
    #19225303 - 12/04/13 04:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It may not prevent fruiting 100%, but it certainly won't aid it.  That tub looked pretty bad and not 100% colonized.  Give it another week, then send it to the compost pile if no pins.


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Re: Does bacterial contamination prevent fruiting? [Re: grainbrain]
    #19225398 - 12/04/13 05:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

IMO (certain) bacteria actually promote fruiting, your problem is a failed colonization of the substrate, due to what? My first guess would be improperly pasteurized substrate, but I would need more info. In my opinion I would toss it, any substrate not fully colonized within ten days of spawning usually indicates the mycelium is competing with another organism, even if it does win it can be a pyrrhic victory...


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Re: Does bacterial contamination prevent fruiting? [Re: WillSolvem]
    #19225473 - 12/04/13 06:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

To clarify: my substrate is fully colonized and has been in fruiting conditions for 10 days already. The thread I linked to is not my tub and I was merely using it as reference to the hints of bacterial related non-fruiting I mentioned later.

I am aware that this is not an unusual amount of time to wait for PE pins but am nevertheless as nervous as an expectant father ... hence obsessing about the lack of pins.


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Re: Does bacterial contamination prevent fruiting? [Re: 4sak3n]
    #19225476 - 12/04/13 06:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Put it in direct sunlight for ten minutes daily until it pins.
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Re: Does bacterial contamination prevent fruiting? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19276615 - 12/14/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hi guys.

Just an update because I feel as though I owe you guys some news since I've received such awesome help here.

Despite my anxiety, I eventually got my pins (albeit after 14 days!) and, as of this morning, my first harvest of penises. :grin: The harvest will be staggered since it is a MS grow and they are maturing at different times but all is well. I was surprised at just how meaty PE is compared to regular cubes. Well ... not that I have much experience with regulars with which to compare them. My few cubes might just have been quite hollow because of growing conditions instead of genetics. But still ... thick meaty penises! Who could want more? :shocked: :wink:

Thanks for the help and keep up the good work guys.


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Re: Does bacterial contamination prevent fruiting? [Re: 4sak3n]
    #19277931 - 12/15/13 06:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm glad to hear of your success :thumbup:

Any pictures? We love porn..


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Re: Does bacterial contamination prevent fruiting? [Re: 4sak3n]
    #19277985 - 12/15/13 07:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

As correctly said once above, bacteria is a pinning stimulant with many species, which is why we pasteurize bulk substrates rather than sterilize them.

What worked to get them pinning?  Did you try direct sunlight for a few minutes per day?
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Re: Does bacterial contamination prevent fruiting? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19278226 - 12/15/13 08:43 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I did try the direct sunlight RR. Got my first mini-chubster about 3 days after I started sunbathing them and the rest soon followed shortly after.

I'll see if I can rustle up a few shots for you guys. PE porn ftw!


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Re: Does bacterial contamination prevent fruiting? [Re: 4sak3n]
    #21899499 - 07/05/15 02:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

For whatever its worth a bulk sub getting contam the mycellium network will force fruit itself in order to project its off spring think of it kind of like emergency mode for survival just like the other guy said above thier is beneficial bacteria that helps then you just just plain bad bacteria either way if your sub can stay afloat before completely taking over you should get something i heard making a sea salt paste and isolating the infected area the sea salt paste helps stop it never tryed it so dont know if it works


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