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MarcusFreeman



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Re: Please help me identify.... is that mold I see? Help much appreciated :) [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#19224926 - 12/03/13 11:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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maynardjameskeenan said: You have to admit that shake has more pollen in it than buds do.
lol, why would I wanna smoke pollen?!
To get high. Why would anyone smoke weed... Blond hash is just compressed cannabis pollen (kief), It's where most of the THC is. I think.
 Why wouldn't you want to smoke pollen... Maybe it's not the correct name for this stuff so what would you call it? If it came from any other plant you'd call it pollen. There is more of it in shake than in bud, so you get higher smoking shake than buds.
Holy hash castle!!! Do you need any new friends? Lol
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Ran-D



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Re: Please help me identify.... is that mold I see? Help much appreciated :) [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#19224929 - 12/03/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're smoking the crystals that receive the pollen, people get rid of male plants to prevent the presence of pollen. Another advantage to removing males (besides growing seedless buds) is the buds will produce more crystals that will swell up fatter because the plant is trying it's hardest to get pollinated.
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jet li
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Re: Please help me identify.... is that mold I see? Help much appreciated :) [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#19224930 - 12/03/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wanna smoke some of that pollen...That looks tastey
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: Please help me identify.... is that mold I see? Help much appreciated :) [Re: Ran-D]
#19224944 - 12/03/13 11:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ran-D said: You're smoking the crystals that receive the pollen, people get rid of male plants to prevent the presence of pollen. Another advantage to removing males (besides growing seedless buds) is the buds will produce more crystals that will swell up fatter because the plant is trying it's hardest to get pollinated.
Female pollen is still pollen to me. If it came from any other plant you'd call it pollen. Give me one other name for it! People don't say, "I have a bag of weed crystal" Check. mate. 
Edit: We are just arguing semantics here. I digress. Shake is more potent than bud per weight and thus worth more to me.
Edited by maynardjameskeenan (12/03/13 11:35 PM)
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jet li
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Re: Please help me identify.... is that mold I see? Help much appreciated :) [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#19224953 - 12/03/13 11:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Honestly I've never heard of pot pollen, but have noticed and heard others say wow look at the crystals on that one. I don't know a whole shit lot about pot though.
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Ran-D



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Re: Please help me identify.... is that mold I see? Help much appreciated :) [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#19224960 - 12/03/13 11:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't know where you're getting your info but females do not produce pollen. And "crystal" is a very commonly used term in the cannabis world, I have never heard anyone refer to kief as pollen.
Have you never had the talk about the birds and the bees maynard?
Edited by Ran-D (12/03/13 11:37 PM)
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: Please help me identify.... is that mold I see? Help much appreciated :) [Re: Ran-D]
#19224975 - 12/03/13 11:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The first time I ever heard anyone use the term was is a head shot, and a kid was trying to sell me a grinder, but couldn't use the term kief. I read a lot of people on reddit use the term before, but I've never heard it called 'crystal' before because that sounds too much like drugs. I'm apologize for my faux pas, I should have used the word kief instead.
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Ran-D



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Re: Please help me identify.... is that mold I see? Help much appreciated :) [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#19224987 - 12/03/13 11:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Crystals refer to the trichomes, I can't believe you've never heard of that.
We totally took this thread off topic.
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jet li
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Re: Please help me identify.... is that mold I see? Help much appreciated :) [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#19224998 - 12/03/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would say it surely resembles pollen. and i think it even makes me sneeze, but would have to agree it is likely a crystalization containing the majority of THC in pot. I don't see why pollen cannot be a code word for that stuff, whatever it is....
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Prolific Mycognome
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Re: Please help me identify.... is that mold I see? Help much appreciated :) [Re: Lhun]
#19225004 - 12/03/13 11:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lhun said: There is a persistent belief that the caps contain more psilocybin than the stems. Many years ago when I was in high school it was pretty common for dealers to give "cap bags" to their regular customers. The rest of the buyers got "stem bags". I guess that still goes on, and perhaps that's the case here.
I guess some studies have been done too, proving a minor difference -
Do caps or stems contain more psilocybin?
This was what I referring to when I said he got ripped off, I implied that the 'weight' of either bag would still contain less of what you're looking for (less active material). If the rumor is inconclusive then I'll just shut up and leave.

On the topic of cannabis, THC crystals are trichomes, secreted from the resin glands of the plant, with many purposes for the cannabis plant (but none of them truly 'reproductive'). More like sap in a way.
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jet li
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Re: Please help me identify.... is that mold I see? Help much appreciated :) [Re: Prolific Mycognome]
#19225007 - 12/03/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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hahahah haven't seen that MJ meme bwahaha! I wish I'd known about that a long time ago.
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: Please help me identify.... is that mold I see? Help much appreciated :) [Re: Prolific Mycognome]
#19225044 - 12/04/13 12:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If the rumor is inconclusive then I'll just shut up and leave.
Rumors are always inconclusive, and testing 5 mushrooms is hardly hard science. If that sample size was in the thousands and the selection of mushroom greater, I'd have an easier time believing it. If you surveyed five people on anything you wouldn't proven much.
Please don't leave though. You're always welcome.
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Prolific Mycognome
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Re: Please help me identify.... is that mold I see? Help much appreciated :) [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#19225051 - 12/04/13 12:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hahah, I didn't mean leave the Shroomery! That would be just plain crazy... I love it here!
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Ran-D



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Re: Please help me identify.... is that mold I see? Help much appreciated :) [Re: Prolific Mycognome]
#19225079 - 12/04/13 12:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Prolific Mycognome said: On the topic of cannabis, THC crystals are trichomes, secreted from the resin glands of the plant, with many purposes for the cannabis plant (but none of them truly 'reproductive'). More like sap in a way.
You're right, I was thinking of pistils swelling up looking for pollen. Either way, the main point was pollen and kief are not the same.
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Joust
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Re: Please help me identify.... is that mold I see? Help much appreciated :) [Re: Prolific Mycognome]
#19225083 - 12/04/13 12:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks to me like you got ripped off. Shrooms with no caps? That's like paying for bud and getting only stemmy, seedy shake!
no, its not, studies have shown that the tryptmaine alkaloid content of stems is only slightly lower than that of caps.
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Re: Please help me identify.... is that mold I see? Help much appreciated :) [Re: Joust]
#19226112 - 12/04/13 10:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks to me like you got ripped off. Shrooms with no caps? That's like paying for bud and getting only stemmy, seedy shake!
no, its not, studies have shown that the tryptmaine alkaloid content of stems is only slightly lower than that of caps.
Thanks for clarifying, Joust. I have misgivings about not being able to identify what I'm paying for. Do you have figures for comparison of the alkaloid content?
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Joust
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Re: Please help me identify.... is that mold I see? Help much appreciated :) [Re: Prolific Mycognome]
#19226412 - 12/04/13 12:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks to me like you got ripped off. Shrooms with no caps? That's like paying for bud and getting only stemmy, seedy shake!
no, its not, studies have shown that the tryptmaine alkaloid content of stems is only slightly lower than that of caps.
Thanks for clarifying, Joust. I have misgivings about not being able to identify what I'm paying for. Do you have figures for comparison of the alkaloid content?
I do, but i dont wish to share it at this time, it is inaccurate and should be completely redone with fresh samples. But i have no one to test for me.
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: Please help me identify.... is that mold I see? Help much appreciated :) [Re: Joust]
#19226664 - 12/04/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks to me like you got ripped off. Shrooms with no caps? That's like paying for bud and getting only stemmy, seedy shake!
no, its not, studies have shown that the tryptmaine alkaloid content of stems is only slightly lower than that of caps.
Thanks for clarifying, Joust. I have misgivings about not being able to identify what I'm paying for. Do you have figures for comparison of the alkaloid content?
I do, but i dont wish to share it at this time, it is inaccurate and should be completely redone with fresh samples. But i have no one to test for me.
Sooooo, what both you guys are saying is that the evidence to support your claims are ambiguous at best, and you can extrapolate nothing from either study. Way to go!
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Joust
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Re: Please help me identify.... is that mold I see? Help much appreciated :) [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#19226675 - 12/04/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hmm? not really, im saying i dont want to release this data as a whole becuase its not even close to being finished. Its taken account for every published alkaloidal test, but still is stupid because the way they test these mushrooms should be completely revisited, AND I WANT IN ON THE FREAKING STUDY!
So yeah, ambiguous and it
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Ganzig
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Re: Please help me identify.... is that mold I see? Help much appreciated :) [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#19226714 - 12/04/13 01:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sooooo, what both you guys are saying is that the evidence to support your claims are ambiguous at best, and you can extrapolate nothing from either study. Way to go! 
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