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Anonymoose69
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Mini Aborts decomposing = mold contamination?
#19224812 - 12/03/13 10:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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What normally happens with aborts? They get moldy if not picked?
I had just one mushroom grow from a BRF tek cake, I didn't do the dunk and roll technique previously because it was already sprouting and ready to go from the Jar, after I picked the one mushroom it didn't seem to be getting any more, so I decided to try a 12hr dunk, I think it had some unseen pin heads starting, because after the soak I noticed some black spots which I think were mini aborts (drowned?) I shook the water off, didn't do a vermiculite coating, and put him in a mini terrarium to see if he'd start flowering.
I think I see a little tiny bit of fuzz growing on one black spot, it looks like mold, I'm afraid it will spread, there's one other cake in there with it. It does look like nice white mycellium growing on the top of the cake though and didn't notice any smells (yet). Should I just get rid of it before it gets worse?
I just swabbed it with some 3% hydrogen peroxide and no color came off it. I also swabbed a white spot that was growing on top and it seemed to bubble a bit.
I couldn't really get a good shot of the possibly moldy part, after swabbing it I don't think it's fuzzy anymore. So hopefully I killed it.
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Re: Mini Aborts decomposing = mold contamination? [Re: Anonymoose69]
#19224899 - 12/03/13 11:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Anonymoose69 said: What normally happens with aborts? They get moldy if not picked?
I had just one mushroom grow from a BRF tek cake, I didn't do the dunk and roll technique previously because it was already sprouting and ready to go from the Jar, after I picked the one mushroom it didn't seem to be getting any more, so I decided to try a 12hr dunk, I think it had some unseen pin heads starting, because after the soak I noticed some black spots which I think were mini aborts (drowned?) I shook the water off, didn't do a vermiculite coating, and put him in a mini terrarium to see if he'd start flowering.
I think I see a little tiny bit of fuzz growing on one black spot, it looks like mold, I'm afraid it will spread, there's one other cake in there with it. It does look like nice white mycellium growing on the top of the cake though and didn't notice any smells (yet). Should I just get rid of it before it gets worse?
I just swabbed it with some 3% hydrogen peroxide and no color came off it. I also swabbed a white spot that was growing on top and it seemed to bubble a bit.
I couldn't really get a good shot of the possibly moldy part, after swabbing it I don't think it's fuzzy anymore. So hopefully I killed it.

It is normal for myclieum to reabsorb nutrients in a mushroom after it has released its spores and is not picked. Im not sure how aborts, if they arent picked work, but I dont see any solid evidence of any aborts I've ever had.
And no, you can't drown pins. Ive dunked dozens of cakes with in vitro pins without a single abort.
The dunk is critical as a large amount of the water in your substrate was used in the colonization process. And BRF cakes are not moisture intensive to begin with (compared with other methods). This is your reason for lack of pinning and yield. The dunk provides two things: a sudden rush of water to the cake that can be used in the fruiting process, and subsequent evaporation of water off the myclieum surface, providing the biggest pinning trigger. No cakes are "good to go" right out of the jar unless you like small yield or are planning to spawn them to bulk.
If you just dunked, give it a week to 10 days to show pins or contamination. I dont see any solid signs of contams, though the myclieum looks a bit weak, possibly from being dry.
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Re: Mini Aborts decomposing = mold contamination? [Re: 2bittoker]
#19224978 - 12/03/13 11:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Peroxide won't do shit unless your dealing with cobweb. Otherwise its just going to damage your mycelium. Aborts will get reabsorbed, at the very least I have never had a contam that I could blame on not harvesting the aborts. If there was white mold mycelium on that cake you will know real soon. White dusty mycelium is usually trich and will turn green if it is. If your cake goes green, pitch it.
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Anonymoose69
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Re: Mini Aborts decomposing = mold contamination? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19239190 - 12/07/13 12:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cool good to know Peroxide can't kill everything (unfortunately), it was just a tiny fuzz, maybe it was mycellium growing over the head of the dying pinhead.
Also good aborts don't increase chance of contamination and dunking doesn't harm them.
I don't even remember if this is the same cake or what now. But I picked off some aborts, the heads turned pretty black so I'm thinking it's probably too late to use them, I cut a few in half and the inside looks dark too. The pictures a bit trippy, they're sitting sideways on a plastic box/

I'm guessing I should have picked this one earlier.
 Is the white fuzz and growth near the little one normal?
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Re: Mini Aborts decomposing = mold contamination? [Re: Anonymoose69]
#19239202 - 12/07/13 12:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The bluish green where you cut them is bruising....which is perfectly normal for active species.
The mycellium on the stems are also normal.
The black cap on the one small shroom means it aborted....they are all still edible.
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Re: Mini Aborts decomposing = mold contamination? [Re: PussyFart]
#19239234 - 12/07/13 12:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wow, I just didn't realize they'd change color so fast, it looked like that right after cutting I guess exposure to oxygen will do that.
Thanks.
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Re: Mini Aborts decomposing = mold contamination? [Re: Anonymoose69]
#19239238 - 12/07/13 12:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pinch one of them and watch it bruise.....bruising can happen from dehydration or blunt trama.
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