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zappaisgod
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Are there really people who still grant Sigmund Fraud any credence at all? Really?
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falcon



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The Aristocrats!
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presentusthefuture
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Re: rethinking freud [Re: falcon]
#19228778 - 12/04/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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What do you guys think about single parents? Absent mothers/fathers?
I was raised by a single mother growing up and I can tell you that I wear the 'kill daddy' patch proudly on my emotional backpack. I think we all, in some animalistic sense, strive to overtake the family patriarch. If not directly, then indirectly.
I think Freud brought up some interesting points that certainly do hold sway today, some of which is just repackaged from previous eras. Hell, I think cocaine would be a terrific supplement to the turmoils of everyday life if it weren't so damaging to the body...
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MarkostheGnostic
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Re: rethinking freud [Re: Icelander]
#19228823 - 12/04/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'll continue to cultivate dispassion towards the world, but admittedly, cruelty, especially towards animals, and extreme sexual titillation, still disturbs my usual 'I don't-give-a-shit about the Miami Heat' attitude. I can imagine the sexual disturbance diminishing when the last drop of fantasy-possibility dies. I don't think I'll ever develop dispassion or divine apatheia toward cruelty, or there wouldn't be anything divine about it. I'll remain as sad about cruelty as you do, and be all the more human for it.
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Icelander
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Yeah you have a point. Cruelty towards animals never gets a laugh out of me. Sadness, rage, fury, tears but no laughs.
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MarkostheGnostic
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Quote:
presentusthefuture said: What do you guys think about single parents? Absent mothers/fathers?
I was raised by a single mother growing up and I can tell you that I wear the 'kill daddy' patch proudly on my emotional backpack. I think we all, in some animalistic sense, strive to overtake the family patriarch. If not directly, then indirectly.
I think Freud brought up some interesting points that certainly do hold sway today, some of which is just repackaged from previous eras. Hell, I think cocaine would be a terrific supplement to the turmoils of everyday life if it weren't so damaging to the body... 
Numbing feelings of abandonment, rage, resentment, loss of self-esteem, and other emotions, just creates a separate but equal problem in life. Now that you find yourself on this forum (welcome, btw), you seem ready to discuss the most pressing thing on your mind. Your's is a therapy issue to be sure, not something that you need to merely solicit opinions for. I mean, you may well find sympathy from others who have suffered abandonment, but be advised that it's not strictly a matter of the father-abandonment. Mothers abandoning their children, often because of drug addiction, was an all too common situation with the adolescents I counseled over 27 years. My ex-wife was profoundly damaged from physical abandonment by a father, but also from emotional abandonment from her Narcissistic Personality Disordered and alcoholic mother. As a object of misplaced rage, I had to leave after 13 years, and she's already divorced her 3rd husband. In the process, she became an alcoholic. Just saying. I don't want to see anyone increase their own suffering, even newbies here.
-------------------- γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself
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presentusthefuture
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Quote:
MarkostheGnostic said:
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presentusthefuture said: What do you guys think about single parents? Absent mothers/fathers?
I was raised by a single mother growing up and I can tell you that I wear the 'kill daddy' patch proudly on my emotional backpack. I think we all, in some animalistic sense, strive to overtake the family patriarch. If not directly, then indirectly.
I think Freud brought up some interesting points that certainly do hold sway today, some of which is just repackaged from previous eras. Hell, I think cocaine would be a terrific supplement to the turmoils of everyday life if it weren't so damaging to the body... 
Numbing feelings of abandonment, rage, resentment, loss of self-esteem, and other emotions, just creates a separate but equal problem in life. Now that you find yourself on this forum (welcome, btw), you seem ready to discuss the most pressing thing on your mind. Your's is a therapy issue to be sure, not something that you need to merely solicit opinions for. I mean, you may well find sympathy from others who have suffered abandonment, but be advised that it's not strictly a matter of the father-abandonment. Mothers abandoning their children, often because of drug addiction, was an all too common situation with the adolescents I counseled over 27 years. My ex-wife was profoundly damaged from physical abandonment by a father, but also from emotional abandonment from her Narcissistic Personality Disordered and alcoholic mother. As a object of misplaced rage, I had to leave after 13 years, and she's already divorced her 3rd husband. In the process, she became an alcoholic. Just saying. I don't want to see anyone increase their own suffering, even newbies here. 
Wow, you're good. I guess I am bringing my baggage on here for display. Fishing for sympathy. My mother was a spiteful sort. Cursing her luck of trading her youth for the care of both of her disabled parents and me. Finding hope in her 'career'. Relying on a domesticated, candy-store form of Christianity fueled by incomplete quotes and skewed mother-daughter church memories to keep the engine going.
No wonder I'm attracted to virtuous depressed women. My ex-girlfriend was a conservative Catholic raised virgin. It was like fucking the Virgin Mary wearing a Morrissey t-shirt.
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