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OfflineOliverJames
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Never drinking Alcohol
    #19224099 - 12/03/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Do you think minimizing the amount of alcohol you drink throughout your lifetime will most definitely benefit you in the long term? I'm surrounded by young people binge drinking every single weekend and they don't seem to be too worried about it. I always end up wondering if I'm simply being too cautious. Then again, I don't really enjoy drinking to begin with. Either way, I've read a number of studies discussing the damaging effects a night of heavy drinking can have on the developing brain and its hard for me to simply dismiss this. I care about my body. What's your thoughts?

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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: OliverJames]
    #19224115 - 12/03/13 08:25 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Weed protects your brain from these effects.

My theory is that you only live once. Burn out while you can. Shine bright for the short time you're allowed on this earth. If that means chugging whiskey and flying down the back roads till you wrap around a tree well then by all means.


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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19224150 - 12/03/13 08:31 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

nearly all drugs are bad in some way for a developing brain.  I personally dislike alcohol and find it boring but every now and then getting wasted is pretty fun.


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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19224153 - 12/03/13 08:32 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

That's no way to burn out, that's the way to flicker and fail. Being stupid isn't shining bright.

If you like to drink socially, and you don't feel it interferes with your life, then I don't see a big problem. But I don't really enjoy it personally.

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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19224188 - 12/03/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

See, my problem is, I like to experiment with different substances. I know drugs can be damaging to the brain, but I normally find that the pros outweigh the cons. I use all substances in moderation, weed being the most heavily used and even thats kept to weekends for the most part. The thing is, all of the damaging effects caused by weed have for most part been proven to be reversible. I'm not sure if the same can be said about alcohol, it is surprisingly neurotoxic.

Really, what I care most about, is holding onto my intelligence and sanity as I transfer into my old age. I know a lot of old people who more or less stopped using their brain, it pains me to see them. I wanna be one of those old dudes who keeps their shit together, and as dumb as it sounds, I worry about how my substance use will effect this goal.

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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: OliverJames]
    #19224204 - 12/03/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Really, what I care most about, is holding onto my intelligence and sanity as I transfer into my old age.




Way to go man. I'm backing off it for a while cause I was doing it too much.


I've seen a lot that very moderate drinking has serious health benefits, but any binge drinking will more than cancel that out. Then again, here's what 5 glasses of wine a week does to your face, but in reverse:



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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19224211 - 12/03/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I hardly agree that "chugging whiskey and flying down the back roads till you wrap around a tree" could be considered equivilent with shining bright in any case.
Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy drinking-- I have 1-2 drinks at least 3 times a week.
I sometimes like whiskey, and I sometimes like getting drunk, but I grew out of my binge drinking phase before I turned 22. There is no mystery in getting piss-wasted. Nor do I find benefit in it at all.

I see moderate alcohol use as beneficial, particularly decent red wines and craft beers, but if you're getting drunk off of them you're probably doing your body more harm than good. Sometimes harming the body a little bit is fun though :wink:


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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: st1llnox]
    #19224347 - 12/03/13 09:07 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks man, I'm honestly very fragmented on this topic. It's like part of me would love to break loose and binge on certain substances but there's another part of me that won't let it happen no matter what. Sometimes I feel like I'm being a bitch and shouldn't worry so much but I can't help it. Ever since I did mushrooms for the first time I became hypersensitive towards my mental and physical health.

That photo is real strange, maybe its the light, but it looks like all of the blood in her face is gone...

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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: OliverJames]
    #19224358 - 12/03/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

OMG I need to try mushrooms then OJ (you never said if you're lost in the rain or not).

To chime in about your dilemma, I'll share one thing I've realized over the last several years: it is drastically easier to keep your good health than to get it back


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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: OliverJames]
    #19224368 - 12/03/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

My dad drank a shitload until he was about 40, like 20+ drinks a week, and my mom has probably had less than 20 drinks in her life, and my mom is in much worse physical health than my dad. Neither has ever smoked cigarettes or used other drugs.

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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: st1llnox]
    #19224401 - 12/03/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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st1llnox said:
OMG I need to try mushrooms then OJ (you never said if you're lost in the rain or not).

To chime in about your dilemma, I'll share one thing I've realized over the last several years: it is drastically easier to keep your good health than to get it back




Is being lost in the rain an analogy for something haha. I'm a fleet foxes fan:grin:. Either way, I feel as though I'm lost in the rain on a regular basis.

And ya, that is exactly why keeping my health is so important. I look at my aunts and uncles and they all have the exact same attitude, "its too late for me". Like they are out of their young years and there's nothing better to do than go to work, take care of their kids, and drink. I don't wanna live that life style, I wanna make my time on this earth worth it. I like surfing and running, I like learning about new things, I don't wanna live the semi-alive lifestyle that so many American adults seem to follow.

Sorry about the rant, I'm passionate on keeping ones body and mind alive

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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: OliverJames]
    #19224431 - 12/03/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Dude yeah, well-said. I'm obviously less inhibited than you but I am proud of myself that I've recognized when I need to back off with DXM last summer and with alcohol now. Now that I beat my K2 addiction, I hope not to get completely out of control again.

Related ish, but you might've seen my thread... I'm literally scared about sobering up for a bit here because I am afraid I'll find out I made myself dumb.

I also really worry about what my non-abused Adderall might mean health-wise.



Also, I feel the exact same way about how most people live. They don't actually live... they subsist or exist and that's all. I don't think I'm ever going to be sober sober forever, but drugs and alcohol are a much better garnish than entre.


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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: st1llnox]
    #19224437 - 12/03/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

When you sober up you'll be amazed at the amount of mental clarity you experience.

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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: morrowasted]
    #19224469 - 12/03/13 09:38 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not really a big drinker (though I am a bit drunk right now, mainly because I'm on probation and can't smoke weed) but I think it's fine in moderation. I more or less hate the taste of alcohol and can't stand beer so I usually just take some shots of whiskey every couple of weeks to chill out.


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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: st1llnox]
    #19224597 - 12/03/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Morrowasted is completely right. I hate being lectured and so I don't lecture others, I think people should have the right to do with their bodies as they please. Personally though, I think moderation serves the body well. When you sober up you may feel sorta burnt out for a bit but if you treat your body well and you keep your substance use limited, you will begin to experience extremely clarity.

I'm prescribed adderall as well, my focus is terrible and so it benefits me greatly, but I try to use it as little as possible. My cousin was prescribed the stuff for years and eventually came off completely. He turned out alright, think it took him a while to rekindle his internal drive but he was able to.

Don't give up though dude, if your working towards living a healthier life and your determined it will come over time:thumbup:

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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: OliverJames]
    #19224642 - 12/03/13 10:16 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Your body does a pretty good job at repairing itself, you just gotta give it the chance every now and then


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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: OliverJames]
    #19224666 - 12/03/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

How old are you, OP?


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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: OliverJames]
    #19224688 - 12/03/13 10:26 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Drinking alcohol is fun.

What's this life thing about again?

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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: birdland]
    #19224701 - 12/03/13 10:28 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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birdland said:
What's this life thing about again?



I think OP is concerned about his quality of life before his assured death.

Makes sense, I guess.  :shrug:


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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: deladude]
    #19224719 - 12/03/13 10:31 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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deladude said:
Your body does a pretty good job at repairing itself, you just gotta give it the chance every now and then




This is a fact. The human body did not evolve this far without acquiring the necessary knowledge and resources to repair itself. Although obviously heavy consumption of alcohol is not good at all for the body, and I think that drinking should be carefully limited as to keep it in moderation. I myself drink occasionally with a friend but very rarely, and I haven't consumed alcohol for a couple of months. I can see the appeal in frequent drinking but it is just not my thing. I think it's reasonable to mention that I do enjoy making wine and mead on a small scale, but rarely do I drink to get obliterated.

But If someone enjoys drinking, then they should drink. No one is completely free of damaging influences and if you are, are you really getting the most out of your life?


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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: OliverJames]
    #19224766 - 12/03/13 10:42 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Morrowasted is completely right. I hate being lectured and so I don't lecture others, I think people should have the right to do with their bodies as they please. Personally though, I think moderation serves the body well. When you sober up you may feel sorta burnt out for a bit but if you treat your body well and you keep your substance use limited, you will begin to experience extremely clarity.

I'm prescribed adderall as well, my focus is terrible and so it benefits me greatly, but I try to use it as little as possible. My cousin was prescribed the stuff for years and eventually came off completely. He turned out alright, think it took him a while to rekindle his internal drive but he was able to.

Don't give up though dude, if your working towards living a healthier life and your determined it will come over time:thumbup:




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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19224775 - 12/03/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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GreyMorph said:
Weed protects your brain from these effects.

My theory is that you only live once. Burn out while you can. Shine bright for the short time you're allowed on this earth. If that means chugging whiskey and flying down the back roads till you wrap around a tree well then by all means.



yea but we never burn out as fast as we plan too

ending up homeless in your twenties with shitty organs isn't a good feel


i could have prevented it by not drinking and drugging so much as a youth.
whats crazy is how strong of an appeal alcohol has for young kids.

i'm so grateful i grew out of it and not only did i my taste for the stuff, i don't drink at all.

lots of kids pop pills in highschool, and everyone drinks, so the liver damage is just insane when u combine those factors.

hell just binge drinking(the only kind i remember from my teens) on its own wreaks havoc on your body.


its easily the most damaging of the main five or so drugs probably only second to methamphetamine(hella brain damage man)

no sources or anything, but i did used to research and from what i remember, organ damage is insane with aclh.




There are benefits, suppossedly, but in a society where alcohol is a huge industry i'm hesitant to believe them. at the very least there has to be other ways, and probably is, to get the benefits of moderate alcohol usage, without drinking alcohol.

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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: st1llnox]
    #19224778 - 12/03/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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st1llnox said:
Quote:

OliverJames said:
Morrowasted is completely right. I hate being lectured and so I don't lecture others, I think people should have the right to do with their bodies as they please. Personally though, I think moderation serves the body well. When you sober up you may feel sorta burnt out for a bit but if you treat your body well and you keep your substance use limited, you will begin to experience extremely clarity.

I'm prescribed adderall as well, my focus is terrible and so it benefits me greatly, but I try to use it as little as possible. My cousin was prescribed the stuff for years and eventually came off completely. He turned out alright, think it took him a while to rekindle his internal drive but he was able to.

Don't give up though dude, if your working towards living a healthier life and your determined it will come over time:thumbup:




:hug: :highfive: :justcantwait:



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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: deladude]
    #19224787 - 12/03/13 10:47 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

This is my rape fantasy face: :justcantwait: 

I only frown and cry when I'm the rapist. It confuses the jury :cool:


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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: st1llnox]
    #19224793 - 12/03/13 10:48 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Im pretty thorough, the jury might get hard watching this video


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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: Set]
    #19224806 - 12/03/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Set said:
Quote:

birdland said:
What's this life thing about again?



I think OP is concerned about his quality of life before his assured death.

Makes sense, I guess.  :shrug:




More fun = higher quality of life

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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: Set]
    #19224824 - 12/03/13 10:57 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

To young to be worrying about this shit man haha, I'm a 3rd year in university. I guess damage from alcohol in particular scares me because I have many male familiar members who abused the hell out of it in their 20s (and still sorta do), and many of them are relatively unintelligent, ridiculously out of shape, and all around lazy. Its stupid for me to let that turn me off from drinking occasionally, I just have a terrible stigma towards the substance now. Getting plastered on weekends is such a common occurrence on weekends here, I do wonder if that kinda of use will show itself in the future. Impossible to know I suppose

and Birdland, that is honestly a very good point. I struggle weighing the benefits of having a good time against what I'm doin to my body

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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: OliverJames]
    #19224850 - 12/03/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

If you do not feel comfortable drinking alcohol then don't do it. It's your choice and alcohol isn't that fantastic anyway in my opinion. You are saying that you have first hand observed that alcohol negatively impacted some of the people around you (this evidence is technically anecdotal) but if you have reason to believe that alcohol contributed to these people's lethargy or lack of intelligence then by all means avoid alcohol.


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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: OliverJames]
    #19224858 - 12/03/13 11:05 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Well, good that you're cognizant of the effects and a possible genetic predisposition to abusing it.  :thumbup:

Don't worry too much though man, don't be afraid to have fun with it when in the moment.


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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: Set]
    #19224889 - 12/03/13 11:13 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Yea I've got a fantastic circle of friends, couldn't ask for better people. I haven't had much luck with the ladies until recently. Because I don't really enjoy drinking all that much I rarely go to bars, clubs, or parties.

I'm more into chilling at home, smoking, listening to music, or goin out to dinner and trying good food, then taking a walk. Nothing wrong with it, I just don't really end up meeting any girls :frown:. But ya, I recently started seeing this girl I used to be close with a few years ago and I'm really happy about where its goin so all is good:thumbup:

I guess I should specified more in the op, part of my problem is with the substance itself but also with the culture that surrounds at uni. I mean, people meet up, pregame, then go out to places and get more hammered. Its what a large portion of people do and I'm not so into it. Again, its not a terrible thing, I just don't end up meeting all that many people

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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: OliverJames]
    #19224919 - 12/03/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Are you from England?  Asking because of cultural considerations.

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Yea I've got a fantastic circle of friends, couldn't ask for better people.



That's awesome man.  Are they sympathetic/receptive to your apprehension to drinking?

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OliverJames said:
I guess I should specified more in the op, part of my problem is with the substance itself but also with the culture that surrounds at uni. I mean, people meet up, pregame, then go out to places and get more hammered. Its what a large portion of people do and I'm not so into it. Again, its not a terrible thing, I just don't end up meeting all that many people



I'm dealing with the same stuff.  With I had a good answer for you.

Sober people say "we do the same things you do, only without drinking!".  Partying is an activity in itself though, and I'm not sure how to do that sober :lol:


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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: OliverJames]
    #19224931 - 12/03/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah alcohol culture can be pretty lame. I enjoy drinking once or twice a week and occasionally getting wasted but the culture around it is silly imo, and it's pretty big here in Australia.

I like going out if there's good music involved or if I think there'll be a good crowd (or preferably both). I don't really go to club nights and that kind of thing. I do like gigs and some festivals though. I like partying too but not the way most people do it :lol:

Psytrance gigs/festivals seem to have a good party culture going as far as I'm concerned.

Also don't worry about genetic predisposition to alcoholism too much. Half of my immediate family (aside from siblings) are alcoholics but I have no trouble with drinking. It doesn't sound like you're going to get addicted to it anytime soon so don't stress about going a bit hard every once in a while :wink:

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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: birdland]
    #19224938 - 12/03/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

birdland said:


More fun = higher quality of life



now what about the inverse of that statement.

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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: Apostle]
    #19225049 - 12/04/13 12:09 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

yes.

a + b = b + a

Same thing. My point is about enjoying oneself; I wouldn't consider drinking myself sick on a regular basis enjoyment.

Getting an alcohol buzz every now and then is fun though and I don't get too many (if any) negatives if it's done in moderation

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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: Set]
    #19225109 - 12/04/13 12:28 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Nope, but I spent a good while in Australia. I honestly sorta preferred it there, I found the Australians to be much more accepting in bar and club environments compared to Americans.

Yea totally, a lot of them are real big smokers who just like chill instead of goin out and partying. I enjoyed this for a while but I like meeting new people and its usually the same group of dudes.

Its sorta terrible, but I can't party sober. I've got too much social anxiety, I just end up feeling outta place. I recently discovered that comboing phenibut and adderall completely rids me of my social anxiety temporarily, so I've dosing that for concerts and shows which I go to once or twice a month.

and ya Birdland, festivals are the best. I went to a few this past summer and met some fantastic people. There is something specifically about the partying scene in college that just bugs me. I feel like its ridiculous primal, just a bunch of dudes getting hammered looking to fuck some sorority chicks. Maybe I just gotta find some better parties. My buddies back home through some small parties with real down to earth people, those were always a good time.

I will admit though, I love to party if I'm rolling. But thats not something I can be doin on a regular basis, I go way up and then come way down...

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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: birdland]
    #19225118 - 12/04/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

drinking culture is a masturbatory and fucking ridiculous culture. if you have to go to party and drink all the time, even if you're doing school... hell, especially when you're in school... well... then... good fucking luck with your shit, is what i say to those people; and don't get so wasted that you make yourself into an ass.

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Re: Never drinking Alcohol [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19225195 - 12/04/13 02:44 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

i agree

i still get triggered wen i have to socialize in a situation where people are trying to "mingle"(get laid) and really want to drink


its been months if not a year since i had some too. maybe even two years.

So, obviously i don't cave into the urge to use the go-to "social-lubricant", as i'm still dry, but it amazes me how instant and not alarming the thought to drink away my nerves comes to me.

you'd think i'd want H or something i like but nothing destroys your anxieties or insecurity like alcohol, IMO.

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