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Bitter Cactus
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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: King Klick]
#19219279 - 12/02/13 08:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shrooms can make you gay because they allow you to see yourself from a different perspective. That may be considered a smart drug.
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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mescalean]
#19219353 - 12/02/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Smart Drugs: Psychedelics Weed Moderated alcohol Caffeine Adderall
Dumb drugs: Dissociatives Opiates Heavy Stims Benzos DELERIANTS
Hey, some of the best drugs are dumb drugs. That's why they're on the list.
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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: ModestMouse]
#19219379 - 12/02/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
ModestMouse said: Smart Drugs: Psychedelics Weed Moderated alcohol Caffeine Adderall
Dumb drugs: Dissociatives Opiates Heavy Stims Benzos DELERIANTS
Hey, some of the best drugs are dumb drugs. That's why they're on the list.
adderall is kind of a heavy stim. mos def not a "smart" drug by any means
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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: MisterSandman]
#19219464 - 12/02/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I bet you that the drugs for that game are or would be fictitious. 
However, I think the trend in this thread is in the right direction...
Good Drugs: modafinil, armodafinil, amphetamine (used as "go pills" by soldiers in WW2, BTW)
Bad Drugs: weed, opies, benzos (can you imagine? "Thanks to Valium, our soldiers are more valiant than ever!"), dissociatives (again, can you imagine? "When our soldiers aren't protecting you, they're undergoing ego death and wondering why plants don't have faces!")
On the fence: Alcohol (I mean, beer is practically an official reward for soldiers but in excess or at the wrong time, alcohol could mean death. )
Real-but-definitely-not-what-the-game-was-talking-about Smart Drugs: *racetams, lithium bicarbonate/oratate
What game BTW?
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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: st1llnox]
#19219584 - 12/02/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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GTA V. The character was a ex soldier with a meth habit
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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mescalean]
#19219661 - 12/02/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wtf...
Some of y'all have a horrible way of categorizing shit. Smart drugs vs dumb drugs? There is no such thing as dumb drugs. Smart drugs is just a term for drugs that make your mind more agile...
Speed improves focus and energy making it a "smart" drug. It's that simple, smart drugs are mainly just various amphetamines or Ritalin and cocaine could be considered a smart drug but it usually isn't considered one. It's just a term, guys. If you can use it to study biochemistry or psychology or hours on end without eating or taking a break then remember all that shit for a huge exam next week then it's probably a "smart" drug. They also improve your memory.
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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: abltsandwich]
#19219732 - 12/02/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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abltsandwich said: I made a list of all the drugs I think are bad and that no one should ever do because all they do is ruin lives
Heroin Meth Ketamine Cocaine Xanax XTC PCP bath salts
I hope that's a joke. Ketamine and "XTC" have made my life great. Xanax has done nothing to it... and i would love a little taste of that PCP
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I think the problem is the imprecise wording in the OP. "Nootropic" and "Performance Enhancing" have very real and easy definitions that would allow us to list common drugs of that description, whereas "smart" is nebulous and unscientific, in general it might be slang for nootropic. To me low speed can definitely make you feel smart but afterward you're low and feeling shitty and have poor performance, often in retrospect you were just deranged and having delusions of grandeur and were not actually smart, whereas psilocybin makes you fucking retarded while you're on it but afterward you feel like a million bucks and have a bunch of interesting insights and interesting thoughts that to me seem like some knowledge has been gained from the experience. Without clarification of the original question we're all just offering different interpretations of the original, poorly framed dichotomy.
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Smart drugs=meth stupid drugs=weed
prove me wrong, do it, i dare you
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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mescalean]
#19220104 - 12/02/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I personally consider hard stimulants (meth, coke, mdpv, apvp, etc) to be "wrong" drugs for me, as well as hard opiates (heroin, oxycontin, dilaudid) and tobacco products (cigarettes, snuff, chew). All those are totally off the table for me.
The right/ smart drugs for me are : marijuana, etizolam and kratom in moderation. Alcohol in moderation is ok for me.
Psychedelics like DMT or mushrooms or ayahuasca or ibogaine root in ritual/ceremonial/rare occasions are smart.
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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: abltsandwich]
#19223341 - 12/03/13 05:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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abltsandwich said: I made a list of all the drugs I think are bad and that no one should ever do because all they do is ruin lives
Heroin Meth Ketamine Cocaine Xanax XTC PCP bath salts
ya' kidding me. blame the hand of the man that is letting the chemical ruining there life
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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Legend]
#19223365 - 12/03/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Legend said: smart drugs = nootropics

Yeah...this is what smart drugs generally refers to...
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Mescalean
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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: deladude]
#19223388 - 12/03/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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deladude said: Smart drugs=meth stupid drugs=weed
prove me wrong, do it, i dare you
From a military standpoint I'd have to agree with you.
Whats better for taking out small villages? Psychosis enducing stimulants that grant above average strength and conditioning while under its effects, or marijuana an empathy enducing "hippy" drug that makes you tired and not want to do shit let alone snap some necks
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Bitter Cactus
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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mescalean]
#19223422 - 12/03/13 06:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hippies are annoying. "Ya brah I don't believe in capitaslim we should all just work together and spread good vibes".
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Mescalean
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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#19223444 - 12/03/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well the way I look at it is take two soldiers. 10 years of slitting throats navy seals. Now you smoke both out. 1 meth. 1 weed. Fight to the death who wins.
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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mescalean]
#19223476 - 12/03/13 06:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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PCP is a smart drug and wrong drugs are caused by people that can't handle them
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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: spazmodog]
#19223488 - 12/03/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
spazmodog said: there are no stupid or wrong drugs
only stupid or wrong people
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Bitter Cactus
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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: spixce]
#19223511 - 12/03/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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spixce said: PCP is a smart drug and wrong drugs are caused by people that can't handle them
Do Japanese people smoke PCP?
I've never heard of it before.
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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#19223528 - 12/03/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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its a dissociative that makes you feel no pain and has high euphoria
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Mescalean
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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: spixce]
#19223561 - 12/03/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Idk why I could see asians loving pcp
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