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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: Icelander]
#19225601 - 12/04/13 07:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ive met a few people i'd put up there.. and dont sound so surprised i posted something good
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: quinn]
#19225610 - 12/04/13 07:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've met a few people who have good shields that allow them to enjoy life to a great extent. That's the most I can say. I don't find them special in any other way. But imo they are still to be envied if not admired.
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: Icelander]
#19225612 - 12/04/13 07:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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there are posters on these forums who i would rate as not falling into the op's category.. idk tho humans are all different and crazy i guess 
maybe i just like some more, or some seem more realistic in their personal outlook and growth, idk
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: quinn]
#19225616 - 12/04/13 07:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ultimately it's hard to tell. We look at others though the lense of our own personalities. For all I know I guess there may be some truly great humans out there.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: Icelander]
#19225621 - 12/04/13 08:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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well 'shields' make it sound like everyone is kidding themselves, which although may be true does not account for some shields being better or more realistic or flexible than others and that the possibility of having no shields is likely impossible
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: quinn]
#19225635 - 12/04/13 08:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i think there are some great humans, but i'm just a belieber
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: quinn]
#19225686 - 12/04/13 08:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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quinn said: well 'shields' make it sound like everyone is kidding themselves, which although may be true does not account for some shields being better or more realistic or flexible than others and that the possibility of having no shields is likely impossible
Well you are just saying what Becker was saying in Denial of Death. It's the quality of our shields that determines the quality of our lives. And I'm not using "quality" in any moral sense but rather a utilitarian sense. And maybe a better way than to say that a shield is used to kidd ourselves (although often it is) it is used to distract ourselves from an uncomfortable truth.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
Edited by Icelander (12/04/13 08:21 AM)
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: quinn]
#19225688 - 12/04/13 08:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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quinn said: i think there are some great humans, but i'm just a belieber
Well relatively speaking I agree. Albert Einstein, George Carlin, Britney Spears etc.
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: Icelander]
#19225713 - 12/04/13 08:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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interesting.. that rings pretty true... i think that a utilitarian outlook may even end up more 'moral' than a moral one as it sidesteps righteousness and dogma (and is more flexible)
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: quinn] 1
#19225915 - 12/04/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well as they say "if it works don't fix it" and I'd add "don't question why it works" (or it may quit working) All good advice wasted on me. Too late to not question everything. It was a huge mistake that I thought was a brilliant solution. So much for intuition.
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: White Beard]
#19226147 - 12/04/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm 25 so no I don't fully understand what you're trying to get across.
BUT, from my experience working with and helping people in their 50's and up I can say that the very happiest of them; all have love in their lives.
That means they actively try to help and care for their fellow human beings. Their hearts are warm and their minds are open.
The above persons are VERY rare, most of the older folks I run into are as you say in the throes of depression "Just trying to survive".
Not sure why, haen't had enough observations yet.
my 2 cents!
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: Allisterem]
#19226155 - 12/04/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I believe ya.
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: Icelander]
#19227008 - 12/04/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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teknix said: Any advice on how to protect my knee's now so I can keep on trekking when I get up there?
They have exoskeletons and shit now that could possibly help, but I'm sure they are expensive.
Good quality trekking poles and build up the muscles
I thought it had to do with the cartilage more than the muscles.
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: teknix]
#19227085 - 12/04/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Muscles protect the cartilage from damage also as far as I know. Another thing is to not be overweight.
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: Icelander]
#19227114 - 12/04/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, you're right, I guess a nice pair of quads can help prevent cartilage loss in the knee's. 
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/11/061116100945.htm
I should prob invest in some trekking poles.
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: teknix]
#19227600 - 12/04/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: Icelander]
#19228046 - 12/04/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icelander said: This is how it works imo. You're young and full of energy and hope, you are making tons of progress. And then with the coming years you stall. Any further progress beyond the stall is in very very tiny increments and it's not enough to sustain hope and the slipping back and entropy of your energy. So you sink into depression or drug addiction or pure fantasy or mediocrity but you'll get no further. I've watched this happen to myself and ALL my wonderful young brothers and sisters. You hit the wall and your humanity wins. This is why the world looks as it does imo. My mentor is now a meth addict. 
So in your opinion is there any merit in, while young, working to develop patience for when you need it with yourself down the line, comfort with silence for when it surrounds you, or dispassion for bettering the world for when the world will not be getting better for you?
Or is it all a wash and there is no mental habituation that can be done in advance to ease the degradation.
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: Kickle]
#19228685 - 12/04/13 08:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Try everything and decide for yourself. I don't for one second think anyone's going to take my word for anything. I just post this shit mostly for myself.
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: Icelander]
#19230822 - 12/05/13 11:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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βI saw my life branching out before me like the green fig tree in the story. From the tip of every branch, like a fat purple fig, a wonderful future beckoned and winked. One fig was a husband and a happy home and children, and another fig was a famous poet and another fig was a brilliant professor, and another fig was Ee Gee, the amazing editor, and another fig was Europe and Africa and South America, and another fig was Constantin and Socrates and Attila and a pack of other lovers with queer names and offbeat professions, and another fig was an Olympic lady crew champion, and beyond and above these figs were many more figs I couldn't quite make out. I saw myself sitting in the crotch of this fig tree, starving to death, just because I couldn't make up my mind which of the figs I would choose. I wanted each and every one of them, but choosing one meant losing all the rest, and, as I sat there, unable to decide, the figs began to wrinkle and go black, and, one by one, they plopped to the ground at my feet.β - Sylvia Plath
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: Grapefruit]
#19230934 - 12/05/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Funny how in no branch was she experiencing any of the tragedy that is the normal outcome of many lives.
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