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shetalks
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: White Beard]
#19224416 - 12/03/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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There can be physiological reasons behind why you are feeling this way, but since you are talking about lack of energy and motivation (and meth) sounds like dopamine receptors.
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DisoRDeR
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Same here, at least on the writing side. If I have a major regret from my childhood it's that I didn't cultivate much musical ability, but poetry takes that place for me now.
I find stories like Miller's inspiring. They've helped to keep the writer in me alive. Many people's dreams collapse under the weight of insecurity, or come careening back to the mean for their insufficient talent-thrust. With a world so thoroughly clouded in distractions, some stand prepped but never leave the surface as the launch window ticks away.
I think getting too fixed on some imagined achievement is where the slide Icelander mentions comes from. Great if you hit your target, but it's a gamble and delusions are rampant.
Edited by DisoRDeR (12/03/13 10:26 PM)
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: DisoRDeR]
#19224598 - 12/03/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Arn't we just mutations of DNA driven by evolutionary psycology. Another species to join the bucket list in the temporary experience called life.
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DisoRDeR
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: Jaegar]
#19224801 - 12/03/13 10:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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We're conglomerations of subatomic particles bumping uglies around nuclei. We're slippity sliding carbon buoys swimming synchronized in the sea. It may be we're arrangements of vibrating strings, tuning instruments, composing, coerced and yet free.
Emergent properties are a bitch, eh?
It's helpful for perspective to reduce ourselves to less and see the progression, but why not embrace what makes us distinct?
We are what came before and more than any of it, and different from all else we see.
And yes, a cold bucket for all, but not yet.
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: Icelander]
#19224817 - 12/03/13 10:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I plan on hitting that wall at full speed, breaking through the other side and cruising down the hill until I no longer feel that life is worth living. Then I'll start the propofol/fetanyl drip, turn on the gas, and float away painlessly. At least that's my plan. Not sure how it will turn out. Might get hit by a car tomorrow. I would imagine finding out that you hit that wall is quite depressing. I see it in my father at times. He always comments that he is too old for this and that. Says he is tired. He seems depressed when he meets his limitations. I'm not really looking forward to it myself. Especially the pain, I already have back pain, can't imagine what it will be like in my 60's. What can you do though? What options do you have? Make the best of it or suicide are the only options that come to me off the top. I want to add to that last statement to make it more uplifting and encouraging, but I can't really think of anything else to say. Dreary.
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: Icelander]
#19224996 - 12/03/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I typically agree with your posts but I cannot adopt this viewpoint regardless of how true it may seem as a collection.
There is no truth or expectations for me right now, although I cultivate things which I expect to grow so I'm kinda lying 
Following nature's blueprint of life in relation to passions, they will grow given you nurture them.. ..Of course they grow to their eventual death but we can enjoy them for the time being.
Edited by cez (12/03/13 11:52 PM)
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: Icelander]
#19225030 - 12/03/13 11:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Two surgeries and now I may be looking at a third

There goes your last good leg.
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Icelander
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Quote:
Repertoire89 said:
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DisoRDeR said: Some writers progress similarly. I've been reading Henry Miller's On Writing, which is a selection of his reflections on the writing process from various works. He published his first notable book at 42, struggling to find his voice and the commitment necessary to compose for much of his adult life before that. But I suppose this is a little different from developing musical technique.
Not all that different, all the motivation for me comes from the act itself and the ideas being expressed. Music or writing Couldn't imagine becoming bored with either, knowing others who have pushed the point well into old age without losing motivation I don't see a reason to worry about that happening.
For everyone that pushes it well into old age there are likely thousands who give it all up. I know two pretty amazing guitarists personally who never pick them up anymore.
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: Icelander]
#19225175 - 12/04/13 02:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Any advice on how to protect my knee's now so I can keep on trekking when I get up there?
They have exoskeletons and shit now that could possibly help, but I'm sure they are expensive.
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: Icelander]
#19225335 - 12/04/13 04:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I hit the wall a long time a go. I'm 23 and I read yesterday this is supposed to be my happiest year. Gee I sure hope not.
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: teknix]
#19225392 - 12/04/13 05:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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teknix said: Any advice on how to protect my knee's now so I can keep on trekking when I get up there?
They have exoskeletons and shit now that could possibly help, but I'm sure they are expensive.
Good quality trekking poles and build up the muscles
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: Grapefruit]
#19225397 - 12/04/13 05:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Grapefruit said: I hit the wall a long time a go. I'm 23 and I read yesterday this is supposed to be my happiest year. Gee I sure hope not.
I wish you some better years.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: Cactilove]
#19225408 - 12/04/13 05:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cactilove said: I plan on hitting that wall at full speed, breaking through the other side and cruising down the hill until I no longer feel that life is worth living. Then I'll start the propofol/fetanyl drip, turn on the gas, and float away painlessly. At least that's my plan. Not sure how it will turn out. Might get hit by a car tomorrow. I would imagine finding out that you hit that wall is quite depressing. I see it in my father at times. He always comments that he is too old for this and that. Says he is tired. He seems depressed when he meets his limitations. I'm not really looking forward to it myself. Especially the pain, I already have back pain, can't imagine what it will be like in my 60's. What can you do though? What options do you have? Make the best of it or suicide are the only options that come to me off the top. I want to add to that last statement to make it more uplifting and encouraging, but I can't really think of anything else to say. Dreary.
Make the best or suicide if you are able.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: Icelander]
#19225546 - 12/04/13 07:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just curious, Icelander... When you were younger, with effortless knees, did you not, beneath your creative/adventurous acts, feel the same presence of impermanence as you do now?
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: collision]
#19225562 - 12/04/13 07:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good question. No I really didn't, not consciously. My belief is it's our energy levels that determine our mind state to a great degree. I had to do a lot of all types of losing to start to understand the futility of my situation. In other words I had to come to grips with the reality of my impermanence and my humanness. That took a lot of experience. It was really after about 50 that it started to dawn on me. Then, after 55 things started to really crash down on my shields and found most of them wanting. I had, for better or worse become an expert in cognitive dissonance. I saw through most of my shields and they then of course became useless. I had and have nothing to replace them with now. No belief in an afterlife, no belief in the goodness of man or the benignness of nature nor in the protection of wealth. No belief that my physical ills are going to be cured. No belief in romantic love that conquers all. It's kind of like finding yourself out of doors in winter without your coat or anything and realizing you can't get back in and night is coming on.
And welcome to the Shroomery.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: Grapefruit]
#19225564 - 12/04/13 07:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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woah i didnt know you were younger than me
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: Icelander]
#19225574 - 12/04/13 07:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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hah i had the thought the other day that love is just something to keep people distracted for long enough so that when they start realizing what's up at least they have someone to be confused about it with.. 
nice to hang around fellow cynics sometimes
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: quinn]
#19225579 - 12/04/13 07:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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quinn said: hah i had the thought the other day that love is just something to keep people distracted for long enough so that when they start realizing what's up at least they have someone to be confused about it with.. 
nice to hang around fellow cynics sometimes
Thats very well stated actually.
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: quinn]
#19225584 - 12/04/13 07:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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there are some who have strength and character and fortune who do not follow the path in the op imo tho
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Re: Just saw it again today. [Re: quinn]
#19225589 - 12/04/13 07:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Absolutely agree. Just haven't met any. 
Well that's not true actually. I haven't met any I'd want to trade places with. That's interesting when I think about it. What satisfies them I find wanting. But that might just be weakness of a sort.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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