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casin is not pinning n h2o2 tek
    #19222344 - 12/03/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i cannot speak english, that is not my 1st language, but i try to do my best. recentrly i started to grow argentina spore up. non contams or other sh1ts :cool: i did a casin the last saturday. i cannot watch pins today tuesday. only i can watch fuzzy mycelium on vermiculite top (20%), so i can see a kind of lil tubes, they r white, like hair... non con tams neither bad odor is in vermiculite top. i did a litle case (green container)which has not pins today. the temperature is low, like 21°, humidity is high 90-100% and i drill 8 holes trough terrarium and i covered with a kind of fiber which is used in aquarium filters. i put an air pump today to get fresh air in one of the poor man's terrarium i did :sun:.
also, i did a h2o2 tek, cause i mustn't use cooker /mom  was cooking:blush:/. i use 1200 ml of water and 20% of h202 mixture in a 1 kilo of birdseed *alpiste in latin america*. i add a mycelium. in four glass jar it was yesterday . today, a kinda white points appear on the substrate, but it is no mycelium :confused:, or is it?
i see cob web aside healthy miycelium n i will do more h2o2 water for
clean the jar cause some grain is like greasy i opened a jar...bad odor

the next week i go out, and i cannot stare at my growings. i think if i put em into a fridge, mycelium will not grow. ineed do prints spores before my vacs in order to prevent the lose of argentinan race! photos:


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Re: casin is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: micolatria]
    #19222403 - 12/03/13 02:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

h202 has no use in this hobby for anything but fighting cobweb,i'd love to be of more help i just have a problem understanding, take a pic of your whole set up maybe


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Re: casin is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: cronicr]
    #19222481 - 12/03/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

well bro
1-i use birdseed
2-i injected spores into 4 tequila shots an 2 test tubes
3-i warm them  24-26 celsius
4- mycelium grew
5- i did a case from 4 tequila shots. a second case with a testtube. the last test tube was for made a h202 tek which is explained on FANATICUS.
6- 2 casings is not pining, i can see mycelium at vermiculite top.
7- 1 of my 4 h202 teks was get rid, cob web an stinky odor!!!

my question is:
why is not pining?


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Re: casin is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: micolatria]
    #19222599 - 12/03/13 02:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

h2o2 tek is  aaa mess, healthy mycelium on  top, however grain stinks. can  bad odor be reaction of peroxide  and substtrate? a lot of rizomorphic micelia is growin well. must i add more h2o2 into grain flask to kill bacteria ? what can i do?


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Re: casin is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: cronicr]
    #19222607 - 12/03/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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must i add more h2o2 into grain flask to kill bacteria ?



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Re: casin is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: PussyFart]
    #19222901 - 12/03/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

again thx!
FANATICUS explains da h2o2. ok? you told to me  that peroxide is not a part of hobby. yes, i trust on you :wink:.
is fanaticus experiments a joke, a false tek? i think if sombody does not know how to (like me), tek will not work properly. well,  let me watch if mycelium grows trough substrate. if i see sh1t, i cut healthy mycelium off to make karo tek: haaving miceliaa , peroxide and water.

you haad resolved one of my qquestions!

watch my casings above, and tell me i do it properly, cause i do not watch pins ! humidity, light, air exchange work pretty. is heat necessary for start pinning? i ve red that high temps (28-30 celsius) like we use to incubate our lovely jars can develope COBWEB n bacetria, is not? i feel lil heat coming from cake w/o use heating pads or whatever!

if i made holes covered with fiber (a kinda pillow stuff), is that enough to air exchange? must i fan? must i open terrarium lid several times at day?


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Re: casin is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: micolatria]
    #19226585 - 12/04/13 12:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

room temp is fine for everything from colonizing to fruiting with cubes, and the fiber you talk about is fine, watch the moisture on the surface of your substrate, if there's beads of moisture right across your fine, once it starts to dissapear you need to mist, this is the humidity that matters most


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Re: casin is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: cronicr]
    #19230131 - 12/05/13 06:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i did a fast cold shock + dunk, few hours. i hope it works, cause i go out next friday n i need print spores...
my enemies r time n webcob!


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Re: casin is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: micolatria]
    #19230250 - 12/05/13 07:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

There is no need for a cold shock for tropical species like cubes.....and you should have dunked for 24 hours, not just a few.

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Re: casin is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: PussyFart]
    #19231106 - 12/05/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

ok :smile:

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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: micolatria]
    #19470845 - 01/25/14 07:11 AM (10 years, 6 days ago)

hi bros... i am at home again. after 1 month 1 weekend on vacs, i try it again jan 20!!!!
casing was inside fridge, mycelia shrank. i made a pftek from that casing you watched before. today i find cobweb out. i take a cotton damped w/alcohol and clean up!!!! mycelia grows trough verm...

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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: micolatria]
    #19470873 - 01/25/14 07:30 AM (10 years, 6 days ago)

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casing was inside fridge, mycelia shrank. i made a pftek from that casing you watched before. today i find cobweb out. i take a cotton damped w/alcohol and clean up!!!!



I wish this made some type of sense.....

What do you mean by "i made a pftek from that casing"?

Where did you read that alcohol was a remedy for cobweb?

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mycelia grows trough verm...



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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: PussyFart]
    #19471261 - 01/25/14 10:04 AM (10 years, 6 days ago)

i take mycelyum out of case  n put it on a verm layer  as a pf tek, as a cake...

i red in a spanish forum you can kill  cobweb using h2o2. in  other site of pleurotus sp growing  said if you  watch a mold or color area , apply alcohol over  that contam.
also or if  you put  cotton over a contam  and cotton get same color of contam,  it is a contam.
i tried it  on a rotten fruit which got a big green mold and  cotton got same color!
i  am a newbie who dont wanna losse argentina sp....
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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: micolatria]
    #19471383 - 01/25/14 10:34 AM (10 years, 6 days ago)

Hydrogen peroxide works wonders on Web cob. I don't know where to begin on the other questions or suggestions my brain assploded


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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: GimpCollector]
    #19485052 - 01/28/14 07:25 AM (10 years, 3 days ago)

no pins :frown:

parameters:

rh= 95%
fanning: aquarium air pump 07h - 21h. i turn pump off at night, noisy :mad:
temp: no heaters nor heat pads. NOTHING! here is sunny all year
light: none, only which pass trough window. no direct sun li gth!

i changed terrarium: a round plastic container; measurements height: 20", large: 40". moist vermiculite on bottom.

also, i injected sterilized water in a cake!!! 5ML

mus i install a fluorescent bulb? my room is dark, few sunlight  is inside my room!!!!

cobweb pass away using h2o2... f%ck it :cool: 3 victories!


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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: micolatria]
    #19485060 - 01/28/14 07:29 AM (10 years, 3 days ago)

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moist vermiculite on bottom.

also, i injected sterilized water in a cake!!! 5ML



You should do the exact opposite of everything you are currently doing......or just follow a tek.

Perlite should be in the bottom, not verm.

And I can't think of one PF Tek worth reading that says to inject your cakes with sterilized water.


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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: PussyFart]
    #19485090 - 01/28/14 07:45 AM (10 years, 3 days ago)

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moist vermiculite on bottom.

also, i injected sterilized water in a cake!!! 5ML



You should do the exact opposite of everything you are currently doing......or just follow a tek.

Perlite should be in the bottom, not verm.

And I can't think of one PF Tek worth reading that says to inject your cakes with sterilized water.




Yea all of :whathesaid:. Click the first link in my SIG and follow that TO THE LETTER.


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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: PussyFart]
    #19485135 - 01/28/14 08:05 AM (10 years, 3 days ago)

have you ever successfully grown a mushroom before?

from my understanding, it does not seem like you are pressure cooking these grains at all, but soaking them in h2o2 in an attempt to sterilize them.
this however will not work, at all. thats why you say it has cobweb and a bad smell. i dont believe that any of the mycelium that you are seeing is from mushrooms.

all the mycelium you are seeing IS cobweb.

your fruiting conditions are probably usable, the real problem is that you have no real mushroom mycelium and that is why it is not pinning.

what ever h2o2 tek you are following, i assure you it is completely false, and you need to do research on a tek that actually works.

you need to be pressure cooking your grains, and waiting for 100% colonization after inoculation before casing them.


I hope that this makes sense, i understand that it can be difficult if English is not your first language.


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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: SalviaGod]
    #19485192 - 01/28/14 08:28 AM (10 years, 3 days ago)

my 1st time on mushies

well, cake dont have bad odor, stinks like fresh edible shroomies.

cob web appears on bottom of caKe and i apply h202 THERE.cobweb dead for now!!!  :tongue:

i pc the grain (birdseed)and mycelium grew good by 2 weekends. after, i put them in fruiting conditions by 1 weekend, however i go out by 1 month and placed cake inside fridge. when i arrived, i dunked it, i put cake on terrarium again: 1 wknd and i do not watch pins today... well i am waiting!!! i wish pins growing at february first week...

h202 was an experimentation that i did with a few mycelium...here i did not pc the grain!!! welcome contams!


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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: magickspore]
    #19485201 - 01/28/14 08:32 AM (10 years, 3 days ago)

i did not got perlite,
only verm is available!!!! :confused:


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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: micolatria]
    #19485205 - 01/28/14 08:34 AM (10 years, 3 days ago)

oh,  alright.

well if everything is colonized and uncontaminated, then you just have to wait.
sometimes it takes a while to pin due to random genetics and conditions, but if your conditions are suitable, it will pin eventually.

good luck.


you can try buying perlite online, if not, im not so sure what you could use as a substitute, but i wouldnt think verm would be a good replacement.

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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: SalviaGod]
    #19485752 - 01/28/14 11:20 AM (10 years, 3 days ago)

whiile my mycelium  or contam grow in my post, i  ve got other trouble. november last weeknd i made a 6 karo tek, but i add a lot of karo 5% (4.8 ml) in 120 ml of water, i  pced them and diid inoculation, but mycelia did not appear. i let them, i was on vacs :smile:.
again at home (1 month n some weeks)  i look at bottles (pissing bottles for lab sample) n 2 had mycelium (it seems like cum floating on water).... i wwas freaking happy!!!! i suck up 20 ml from one and did my grain (cooked, pc, cool down), inoculation, incubation, but i can not watch signs of developement  in my jars... what am i doin wrong?


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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: micolatria]
    #19485806 - 01/28/14 11:35 AM (10 years, 3 days ago)

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what am i doin wrong?



Quote:

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i made a 6 karo tek



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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: PussyFart]
    #19485957 - 01/28/14 12:11 PM (10 years, 3 days ago)

It may take cakes up to a couple weeks for them to even start pinning after 100% full colonization.  Just give it time, wait, and watch.


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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: DannyDGAF]
    #19486068 - 01/28/14 12:40 PM (10 years, 3 days ago)

grain used:

-maize (several flasks and some
          tequila shots)
-amaranth (some  crystal bowls n
                tequi shots)
the whole inoculated flasks r inside my incubator (28 - 29 celsius )

so, i wash bottles w/chlorine. when they dried, i made a kind of paste mixing wheat flour n water. i fill bottles n cooked in pc by 15 minutes. cooled down. they were inoculated at sunnday. i can not open them, contams can seed there!!! i did that, cause i wanna find out if mycellium syringe is dirty or not!!!!


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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: micolatria]
    #19489969 - 01/29/14 06:01 AM (10 years, 2 days ago)

here karo tek syringe



phantastic!

mycelium growing in some tequi shots inoculated W/karo tek!


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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: micolatria]
    #19495175 - 01/30/14 06:24 AM (10 years, 1 day ago)

my cake is dried, what must i do?


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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: micolatria]
    #19495205 - 01/30/14 06:38 AM (10 years, 1 day ago)

Watch these 4 brf tek videos after you toss out everything you have now.  Start over and follow the videos.  You can see everything being done, so you don't need to speak English very well to follow them.  Good luck.
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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: micolatria]
    #19495211 - 01/30/14 06:41 AM (10 years, 1 day ago)

mist it with water. use a spray bottle.

You need to pressure cook your jars with a lid that has a hole in it and cover the hole with a filter (syntethic filter disc, polyfill, (micropore tape)).

then use syringe to add spores.
dont open the jars before they are 100% white. If you do they will contaminate.
when they are 100% white you mix these wbs grains with pasteurized coir/verm or horse/cow poo.

You say you use wbs, but you also talk about your cake. this is confusing.

If english is a problem you can try to pm me in spanish (I'm not that good in spanish though),
or maybe just write what you have done and your questions in spanish here.

lots of Hispanics here that I'm sure can help you! Don't give up.

watch www.mushroomvideos.com for the most updated TEK.

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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: spacechildo]
    #19495313 - 01/30/14 07:30 AM (10 years, 1 day ago)

ok i understand all directions you fellas told to me, very thank all posters! :cool:
i pc all the jars,i followed all intructions teks teach me sterilize, cooling down, inoculation, sanitize, etc!
i was reading spanish n english, watching pics, watching videos ("xonox" tutorial eng n spanish subtitles, "lets growing mushrooms" spa subtitles)by several months b4 i got all myco stuff... i think I've got a big bunch of info, is not?
surfing on foreigner web is cool, a lot of info (advanced info i must say)best than other sites and shroomery is best!!! many spanish forums or webs consult here or made traductions of shroomery teks and how to tutorials...always they say where info was obtained!!!

i started with casing, but i take mycelia off from container cause it was several weeks into fridge (i went out) and i put mycelia on a dish with verm as pf tek...i cleaned and dunk it. i thinked it was a good option cause cobweb started to appear; if i did not made that, mycelium have dead!!!
i can recognize what is a pf tek and what is grain... but my original project was an casing tek, experimentation make me to do a cake. i do not know if all you understand me.
i cannot watch pinning, must i dunked mycelium again (two flushes since it was into case)? if i dunk it, is it stress for mycelium? is correct to spray mycelium directly or i must spray over verm layer?i fear from contams!


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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: micolatria]
    #19495895 - 01/30/14 10:56 AM (10 years, 1 day ago)

i set up  a  fluorescent bulb, but label is tagged as white light instead daylight:

*127v/60hz/E26/6400k/0360A/1 443,09lm

r wrong the parameters?
i can watch 6400 k!
bit*h who sold it was a mofO!


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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: micolatria]
    #19495906 - 01/30/14 10:59 AM (10 years, 1 day ago)

6400K is fine.


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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: PussyFart]
    #19516719 - 02/03/14 04:43 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

is fruiting!!!!!
lil pins, i can see brown point over them....
i cut off cobweb of da cake!

fae-  air pump (whole day)
light- fluorescent 6400k, ten hours          or less
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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: micolatria]
    #19519945 - 02/04/14 11:10 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

i went out again,i return at friday!!!
today (tuesday)pins got .5-1 cm...
i wish cob dont f=ck my cake or it get rotten!!!

see you


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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: micolatria]
    #19519972 - 02/04/14 11:19 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

post pictures yes? :yesnod:


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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: spacechildo]
    #19522036 - 02/04/14 07:29 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

i wont go  homme  unnntil  monday  :wink:

it iis getting worse!!!!

stealing wifi!!!!


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    #19550198 - 02/10/14 09:41 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: micolatria]
    #19560421 - 02/13/14 07:09 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

good and bad ....


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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: micolatria]
    #19560425 - 02/13/14 07:12 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

you need to relax before you eat. calmate!
find a place you feel safe.
Do not eat mushrooms and go out in traffic with cars!
Eat them in the forest is good for me!

always remember: - don't panic!


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Re: casing is not pinning n h2o2 tek [Re: spacechildo]
    #19563563 - 02/13/14 09:12 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

thanks a lot all broderz who help me!

i must  trip again in some wweekks  or months.... i must have no tasks!,


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