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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19222076 - 12/03/13 12:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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IME I find that I often will not see good spore production until the second or third flush, even with a monoculture. Not sure why that is but it has happened to me a few times now.




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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19279830 - 12/15/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)



this one is ten days in. :sad: going pretty slow


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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19329974 - 12/26/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



These are creeper. I only PCed the rye for 60M on this one and the jars that were used to make these tubs had some bacterial infection going on. Threw it into some sterilized coir and still ended up with this.

Both of these tubs yielded 3/4 oz dry off this first flush, not to sure if I'll even get a second flush. Quite a lot of side pins on these.

I don't reccomend cutting corners and using shit procedure. Such as cutting time on PC cycles, using anything contaminated, and then sterilizing coir. I get an ounce first flush usually when I do things the right way and then some flushes after that so it's not really worth it to cut corners.

I only posted this because people don't like to post their failures or contamination usually, but we all(most of us) get them from time to time.

Splotchy colonization which took about 20 days from spawning to get to as colonized as it was going to get. There were premature pins and most of the fruits are quite small as you can see.

These jars smelled very similar to bleu cheese when spawned. The bricks smell like mycelium now.


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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19330058 - 12/26/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i bet if you gave those a rest for a week your second flush comes in fine:shocked:


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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: cronicr]
    #19330090 - 12/26/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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i bet if you gave those a rest for a week your second flush comes in fine:shocked:




Ie take them out of fruiting conditions?


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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19330107 - 12/26/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

no just cut back on the misting to a couple times a day or increase your fae and don't dunk them for a few days
the main problem wtih bacteria in spawn is it usually leads to molds but if yours didn't your sub can usually deal with it itself


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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: cronicr]
    #19330161 - 12/26/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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no just cut back on the misting to a couple times a day or increase your fae and don't dunk them for a few days
the main problem with bacteria in spawn is it usually leads to molds but if yours didn't your sub can usually deal with it itself




Good to know, I'll update if anything happens, I'm keeping a heavy eye on them though.


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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19330217 - 12/26/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

all in all looks great though:congrats:


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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: cronicr]
    #19331837 - 12/27/13 05:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

bodhi...those bacteria jars..did they get to 100% or did u spawn earlier just as an experiment?

when u get an ounce on first flush when doing things right, what spawn sub ratio is that? 1 qt spawn or more?  just curious to compare, cause if its one qt spawn to one qt sub thats great! compared to me at least. I've done several mini bucket mono esque grows with that ratio (1:1) and never hit an ounce, just really close to it, like 24g's on first flush.  2nd flush runs strong though at 20g though (all dry weight)

just started casing (50/50 +hydrated lime) those buckets, same ratio, and pin set better, so I'm hoping to pull an o first flush.


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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19336842 - 12/28/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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These are creeper. I only PCed the rye for 60M on this one and the jars that were used to make these tubs had some bacterial infection going on. Threw it into some sterilized coir and still ended up with this.

Both of these tubs yielded 3/4 oz dry off this first flush, not to sure if I'll even get a second flush. Quite a lot of side pins on these.

I don't reccomend cutting corners and using shit procedure. Such as cutting time on PC cycles, using anything contaminated, and then sterilizing coir. I get an ounce first flush usually when I do things the right way and then some flushes after that so it's not really worth it to cut corners.

I only posted this because people don't like to post their failures or contamination usually, but we all(most of us) get them from time to time.

Splotchy colonization which took about 20 days from spawning to get to as colonized as it was going to get. There were premature pins and most of the fruits are quite small as you can see.

These jars smelled very similar to bleu cheese when spawned. The bricks smell like mycelium now.




damn, that looks great. why didn't you take them out of the shoe boxes?


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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19341693 - 12/29/13 02:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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bodhi...those bacteria jars..did they get to 100% or did u spawn earlier just as an experiment?




they got to 100

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when u get an ounce on first flush when doing things right, what spawn sub ratio is that? 1 qt spawn or more?  just curious to compare, cause if its one qt spawn to one qt sub thats great! compared to me at least. I've done several mini bucket mono esque grows with that ratio (1:1) and never hit an ounce, just really close to it, like 24g's on first flush.  2nd flush runs strong though at 20g though (all dry weight)




1 to 1 usually
sometimes 2 to 1 but the first flush is still always around 28-35G


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just started casing (50/50 +hydrated lime) those buckets, same ratio, and pin set better, so I'm hoping to pull an o first flush.




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damn, that looks great. why didn't you take them out of the shoe boxes?




just cus really.


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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19350159 - 12/31/13 08:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)



Here's a creeper one made with good spawn


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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19350715 - 12/31/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

how did that tray of straight cased grains go?


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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19350738 - 12/31/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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how did that tray of straight cased grains go?



so far so good.
or you can check my gallery for any new photos if I forget to put them in a post.


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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19358806 - 01/02/14 02:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)









Here's two tubs. One in fruiting conditions(SGFC) outside of the tub on a piece of foil. And some interesting upside down shrooms.

The other tub was left in the tub and on a shelf. It was misted way way way more often since it wasn't in a fruiting chamber.

I got 391grams off the one on the shelf and 464grams off of the one in the SGFC. For a grand total of 855 grams. I'll let you know what the dry weight ends up being.

These particular tubs were 2 (hydrated ala Frank's tek) quarts spawn and nearly 2 quarts coir(properly pasteurized)


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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19358825 - 01/02/14 02:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

nice dude!
what is franks method of hydration?
did the one not in an fc have a cover at all during pin formation?


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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19358836 - 01/02/14 02:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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nice dude!
what is franks method of hydration?
did the one not in an fc have a cover at all during pin formation?




the grain dunk thing. Soaking grains before spawn in some water.

It had a loose cover for pins then completely off once the pins were a little less than a centimeter high.


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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19358876 - 01/02/14 02:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

oh duh, thought u mean he had a way of dunking entire tubs.
so 1:1 ratio on both, just using coir no verm?
i keep forgetting to try that.
just made 4 buckets, all 1qt spawn to 1qt coir/verm
2 of the buckets have 1 tablespoon leeched dehydrated chx manure added to the substrate before pasteurizing.  I'm thinking of hoping on ur SGFC for coir cakes train, just need a really big one for these four or two regular sized ones.


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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19359416 - 01/02/14 04:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It's coir+verm.

one brick of coir + 4.5 quarts of water + 1-1.5 quarts of verm
Yields ~6-7 quarts

Or the 1/3 recipe
~215 grams of coir + 1.5 quarts of water + 0.5 quarts of verm
Yields about 2-3 quarts

I usually throw gypsum in but I ran out, I haven't noticed any increase or decrease in vigor with or without it but I don't have true isolates the cultures I have been using were clone tissue and then a few transfers after that, so very very limited genetics but still not quite an isolate.

I'm working on getting some isolates now. I have AA+ Creeper and was just sent some APE spores that are all on dishes now. I made most dishes on the 22nd but only one(creeper) has shown germination yet. Hopefully I can get some isolates out of them and keep going

And yea these coir cakes take up a lot of room, I can fit 3 in my SGFC and they have about an 1/2" of space on all 4 sides from the walls or the other cakes. This makes all the side pins get tangled up and really hard to get the cakes out of the SGFC but it's not impossible.

I had 5 going at once(one of them is the cased straight grains) so the cased grains and one of the cakes were fruited without a fruiting chamber and they're both doing well just needing a lot of misting is all.


these fat fruits are taking forever to dry. It's been 6 hours since I started my dehydrator which is reading about 150ºF and they're still quite bendy.


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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19359562 - 01/02/14 04:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

cool.  good news about being able to fit 3 in with 1/2" space btw!
how did u do the one outside the FC that was not cased same as the cased one...just more misting? ill take some pics after i walk my dog to show u what I'm working with and see what ur suggestions r because mine r more circular/cylindrical because of the container i spawn in.


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