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Weird experience while tripping hard with good friend, someone mind eleaborating on this????
    #19221216 - 12/03/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

           So last Tuesday me and my friend, let's call him "A", had nothing to do Wednesday, so we thought tuesday sounded like a good day for a trip. So we end up getting two hits of some really good "Lucy" (and hopefully not a RC lol) and head to his house with that and .5 of some sticky ass dank bud. We take the Lucy, and smoke a bit for the come up but save a good amount for later. Now he's only tripped once before, but it was a weak trip, nothing like he was about to experience. We start noticing effects and just laugh while watching The Cleveland Show, which is an amazing show to watch tripping by the way. I feel like I have to guide him through this since I've tripped a lot more than him, and I know we're in for a ride when things gradually start moving 30-40 minutes into it. We both take note of things we see too each other, still havin a good time. 
        Well about an hour and a half into it, I can tell he's feeling kind of uneasy, and I'm tripling pretty hard at this point. He says things like "this isn't like it was last time" and "you think that was real Lucy?" and "I wish P was here, he would know what to do" (P is our friend who was going to trip with us but couldn't. He was there during A's first trip, and P has always been everyones favorite person to trip with, including mine). So I start trying to make him feel comfortable by saying things like "I'm sure it's real man, just relax and go where it takes you, trust me, it will be beautiful man". He agrees but I can still sense uneasiness, so I suggest doing something else besides watching The Cleveland show. We had awesome times watching it, and we acceidently watched the same episode twice, which is where we both stated we were having a Dejä Vu. This made me laugh my ass off but it made him even more uneasy.
          So I pop in GTA V, anxious to have one hell of a time looking at the beuatiful terrain rockstar crafted. We start off a near franklins house which was in the ghetto, which initially gave off bad vibes, but I quickly went to the mountains, near the rushing rivers and forests. This instantly gave me pure bliss, while I was too busy watching the screen to gauge A's reaction. After a while I let him play to give him an experience like the one I just had. He drives around for a while, then all of the sudden gets out of the car he was in and starts gunning people down with the AK, while angrily insulted them. The made me feel weary. After killing a handful more of people on the game he turns to me and says "Couldn't you see yourself doing this in a school, shooting people, then leaving a note to say why you did it?". This plummeted me into a full on bad trip. I say "what?!" somewhat loudly and he just asks the same question. I then say what in a louder and extremely worried voice and he just says what back and laughs and keeps playing. I had no idea how to respond to this, so I turned off GTA and tried to find something else to do, resulting in changing videos and shows at least 10 times uncomfortably. After this since I wasn't really enjoying the trip anymore, I gave off bad vibes, which didn't help his trip, for he repeatedly stated he wished P was there, because he would know what to do.
         Now me and A have a dark humor we like to joke about a lot when sober. And I'm sure a lot of people do, but never while tripping, for you take things too seriously. A's had kind of a hard life. His brother who he was very close with commiteted suicide a few years ago. Anyone have any input on this? Think he was trying to relate to the dark side of our humor we always joke about? 


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Re: Weird experience while tripping hard with good friend, someone mind eleaborating on this???? [Re: meganthratalica]
    #19221241 - 12/03/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

He was either joking or imaging what it'd feel like to have some crazy killing rampage type experience and wanting your opinion on the matter. Maybe you took it out of context...


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Re: Weird experience while tripping hard with good friend, someone mind eleaborating on this???? [Re: meganthratalica]
    #19221255 - 12/03/13 09:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

he probably has fucked up thoughts if he's had a fucked up life. :shrug:

probably repressed emotions and such


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Re: Weird experience while tripping hard with good friend, someone mind eleaborating on this???? [Re: meganthratalica]
    #19221285 - 12/03/13 09:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Try taking LSD and turning the TV off man. Turn on chill tunes if you have to stay inside and create a room that is warm and comfortable. Set and setting are of tantamount importance when it comes to psychedelics.

It's amazing how some music or sounds that might be interpreted as creepy or a violent scene in a movie can send your trip south. Even an intense situation on a show will become magnified in intensity. So why you would put on uber graphic/violent video games when things are really starting to kick in is beyond me.

My general rule of thumb is no TV period. It's made tripping just that much more rewarding and less confusing I guess.


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Re: Weird experience while tripping hard with good friend, someone mind eleaborating on this???? [Re: Couperj]
    #19221424 - 12/03/13 10:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This was originanlly my plan. I asked him if he wanted me to bring my speakers cause I already a 40 song playlist full of the Beatles, Floyd, Zeppelin, Eagles, Skynryrd, and a select few calm Sanbath songs. But he didn't have his AUX cord. So we were shit out of luck there. We did watch the music video to collarded greens by schoolboy Q, and it was very amazing. Kendrick's voice suspended me into pure happiness and joy. But yeah, usually when trippin and playing GTA, we all look at the beautiful scenery. Music and smoking more really made the the trip turn amazing again after some tension. After smoking we also just turned all the light off and looked into the darkness, which combined with just smoking gave some of the best visuals I've ever seen in my life. That was after abstaining from marijuana for two an a half months, so my tolerance was low as ever, while A's was the opposite.


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Re: Weird experience while tripping hard with good friend, someone mind eleaborating on this???? [Re: Couperj]
    #19221425 - 12/03/13 10:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:smile:

Sometimes little thoughts like that can throw you off. On one of my first trips, my friend jokingly said something along the lines of "oh, is that someone getting attacked and raped?" when we heard a scream.

Obviously meant to be dark humor....had a very strange effect on me.


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Re: Weird experience while tripping hard with good friend, someone mind eleaborating on this???? [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19221433 - 12/03/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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GreyMorph said:
He was either joking or imaging what it'd feel like to have some crazy killing rampage type experience and wanting your opinion on the matter. Maybe you took it out of context...





I don't know, it was pretty straight forward man.


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Re: Weird experience while tripping hard with good friend, someone mind eleaborating on this???? [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #19221442 - 12/03/13 10:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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:smile:

Sometimes little thoughts like that can throw you off. On one of my first trips, my friend jokingly said something along the lines of "oh, is that someone getting attacked and raped?" when we heard a scream.

Obviously meant to be dark humor....had a very strange effect on me.




Yes, it does have a strange effect. When i trip I absolutely can't do dark humor. Idk, maybe some people are different.


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Re: Weird experience while tripping hard with good friend, someone mind eleaborating on this???? [Re: meganthratalica]
    #19221478 - 12/03/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If I were tripping with someone who had experienced a death fairly recently, would take care not to get into violent games, movies, music.  Best to not enter into a bad state if you can help it

Set and setting.... Sounds like you both should have thought more about that really

Your friend was just voicing what came out of his experience and the setting you guys were in... I don't see this as a problem really... Maybe even healthy for him to voice the thought out loud to his trusted friend... Who would understand....

Or be freaked out by it.... Hmmmm....


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Re: Weird experience while tripping hard with good friend, someone mind eleaborating on this???? [Re: HarryL]
    #19221574 - 12/03/13 11:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Haha, I know set and setting are very important. But this was the setting we really wanted. When I asked if he wanted to switch from Clevland Show to GTA he got excited, because really, without the violence and just the environment, GTA is amazing tripping, to us at least. He just doesn't have it, or really know how to play so I think he was just screwing around killing people like we always used to do in Saints Row Two before we started doing pyschedelics and just smoked all the time. I probably just overreacted honestly hahaha.


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Re: Weird experience while tripping hard with good friend, someone mind eleaborating on this???? [Re: meganthratalica]
    #19223962 - 12/03/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What the fuck?

Dude, the game is funded by its violence. That's the whole point, if you want to run around a collect pretty flowers then play an elder scrolls game which is also chock full of violence and it is an AWESOME game but the point is, it's really normal to shoot people on violence oriented video games and its really perfectly normal to have a morbid sense of humor. You shouldn't be analyzing your friends personal life or questioning his morality over a silly joke.

It's not like he suggested doing it or pulled a knife on you or something...
Don't let that shit ruin your friendship.


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Re: Weird experience while tripping hard with good friend, someone mind eleaborating on this???? [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19224357 - 12/03/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You wanted to play a violent game for scenery?

Just watch a nature show? can be an Epic trip if you watch some documentaries with a good narrator or just turn off the sound and play classical


Conceptualizing killing a spate of people doesn't sound too bad, unless he coupled that with a lot of sketchy dark thought trails and convo.

Now if he's actually out to experience stuff like that beyond the mental, then sure...you might have sensed something amiss. Definitely better to not discuss til after the peak.

I have friends that have dark thoughts tripping (even jokingly) and not have them normally...it affects my vibes so I'd rather keep things upbeat.


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Re: Weird experience while tripping hard with good friend, someone mind eleaborating on this???? [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19226439 - 12/04/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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What the fuck?

Dude, the game is funded by its violence. That's the whole point, if you want to run around a collect pretty flowers then play an elder scrolls game which is also chock full of violence and it is an AWESOME game but the point is, it's really normal to shoot people on violence oriented video games and its really perfectly normal to have a morbid sense of humor. You shouldn't be analyzing your friends personal life or questioning his morality over a silly joke.

It's not like he suggested doing it or pulled a knife on you or something...
Don't let that shit ruin your friendship.




I know it's normal. I've already stated this. We have a morbid sense of humor usually. Just for me, when tripping, I don't have the humor. And his voice was serious. Not joking. It was a rather contemplative voice. Lol our friendships too strong to let something like that ruin it, trust me. It just gave me bad vibes during the trip, so I thought i'd discuss it. And yes, I still love playing GTA V tripping, try it out if you get a chance.


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Re: Weird experience while tripping hard with good friend, someone mind eleaborating on this???? [Re: meganthratalica]
    #19226689 - 12/04/13 01:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

this is why tripping with others can be a bad idea. think about how simple that situation was. you watched a cartoon,played a video game, and told some jokes. but in your mind you thought the world was coming to an end at times. now imagine that same trip if you were sitting out in nature, alone.


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Re: Weird experience while tripping hard with good friend, someone mind eleaborating on this???? [Re: Apeman]
    #19226971 - 12/04/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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this is why tripping with others can be a bad idea. think about how simple that situation was. you watched a cartoon,played a video game, and told some jokes. but in your mind you thought the world was coming to an end at times. now imagine that same trip if you were sitting out in nature, alone.




I understand. Tripping with close ones is awesome. Unfortunately I haven't gotten the pleasure of tripping in nature yet. But yes, tripping with others sometimes can get a little uneasy. Next time I'll keep good thoughts throughout no matter what. And while tripping in nature is obviously the best choice, I still think you can have a fun time with certain shows/movies/games.


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Re: Weird experience while tripping hard with good friend, someone mind eleaborating on this???? [Re: meganthratalica]
    #19226986 - 12/04/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Tripping and nature go hand in hand imo. Go camping with some buddies, trip hard, and have a fucking blast :thumbup:. Indoor trips can be alright or not cool. It comes down to the environment, but outside I never have a bad time. No matter the weather.


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