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ChinChiller



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Frank Zappa
#19221180 - 12/03/13 09:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just got 8+ Gigabytes of Frank Zappa and I'm wondering where to start. Definitely not his orchestral stuff, at least not yet. Any album reccomendations from some Zappa fans on here?
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Sham87
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Apostrophe', The Grand Wazoo, Joe's Garage...
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Re: Frank Zappa [Re: Sham87]
#19221194 - 12/03/13 09:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the fast response! I will definitely check those out.
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No problem man. Enjoy the genius of the Zappa.
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Some of his stuff is just way too out there for me. Its absolutely insane the amount of music he made.
Im listening to Apostrophe right now...
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I never got into Zappa. His music doesn't work for me. Too corny and campy.
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Re: Frank Zappa [Re: mpd]
#19221222 - 12/03/13 09:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cool, on your way then.
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Re: Frank Zappa [Re: Sham87]
#19221244 - 12/03/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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mpd said: I never got into Zappa. His music doesn't work for me. Too corny and campy.
QFT, although some of the stuff of his I have heard is aesthetically impressive. I don't recall if it was technically impressive as well, but it simply wasn't the sort of thing your typical heavy metal homo (such as yours truly) gets real into.
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What do you consider heavy, homo?
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Re: Frank Zappa [Re: mpd]
#19221261 - 12/03/13 09:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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mpd said: I never got into Zappa. His music doesn't work for me. Too corny and campy.
I think a couple of his songs are quite witty/funny albeit a little corny(Uncle Remus, Bobby Brown). I will see if the rest really work for me. It was definitely stupid of me to get the whole discography from my friend, maybe only because I do plan on checking out the orchestral stuff. Thats the beauty of having 2 TB of free space to collect as much music as possible.
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Re: Frank Zappa [Re: Sham87]
#19221264 - 12/03/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sham87 said: What do you consider heavy, homo?
Most metal besides (ironically) heavy metal... Which is the softest kind. Practically rock n roll, some of it.
My all-time favorite is Bal-Sagoth if you want to get a feel.
Stormlord is another of my favorites.
I do like softer stiff like Judas Priest, Type O Negative, and power metal bands
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I'll look into Bal-Sagoth, thanks for the lead.
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Zappa's the best, a master of so many styles, smart enough he could've done whatever he wanted for fame and riches but chose the harder road by consistantly pushing the boundaries of music instead of getting rich off the same old blues riff or whatever. Even if you don't like his music, you gotta fuckin' respect his talents. He's more than a guitarist or a songwriter or a band leader, he's all of those in one a modern age fucking composer. Pushing the boundaries of music lyrically, musically, technically, his whole life. Personally one of if not my favorite guitarist ever. Definitely top 5 no question. I'd start with Hot Rats and just go onwards 
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Re: Frank Zappa [Re: gzuf]
#19221378 - 12/03/13 10:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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what is a zappa?
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his orchestra stuff is probably his best
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Re: Frank Zappa [Re: Envix]
#19221463 - 12/03/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hot Rats.
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dontknow said: what is a zappa?
All I know is he is very frank.
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Over-nite sensation
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Errolscool said: I just got 8+ Gigabytes of Frank Zappa and I'm wondering where to start. Definitely not his orchestral stuff, at least not yet. Any album reccomendations from some Zappa fans on here? 
Start with the delete button.
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Hot Rats Overnite Sensation Apostrophe ' Roxy and Elsewhere
In my opinion those are his four most accessible albums. There are several others that have one or two good cuts but the other cuts are pretty meh or even pretty turn-that-shit-off.
Frank's problem was that he had no filters. Pretty much everything he ever thought up he put on tape, and pretty much everything he put on tape he released on some album or other. Lots of it should have stayed in a studio vault instead.
But his best stuff is very very good indeed. I had the enormous good fortune to see him when he was touring with the Overnite Sensation and Apostrophe band lineup. I paid four bucks Canadian to see two and a half hours of some of the tightest, most intricate, gnarliest, crystalline clear (awesome sound technicians) music played by some of the true giants in the field. As an old Woodstock era fart I've seen almost all of the very best rock bands who ever toured in the late Sixties to the mid- Seventies, and that Zappa concert was for sure among the top ten.
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Re: Frank Zappa [Re: Phred]
#19221686 - 12/03/13 11:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Uncle Meat. Don't skip a second. Not even the dumb monologues or the stuff that sounds like someone throwing a toy box down a flight of inflatable stairs. I'm only in it for the Doo Wop.
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KremrBigSikter said: sounds like someone throwing a toy box down a flight of inflatable stairs.
best description of a frank zappa song ever
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Re: Frank Zappa [Re: Phred]
#19221941 - 12/03/13 12:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Phred said: But his best stuff is very very good indeed. I had the enormous good fortune to see him when he was touring with the Overnite Sensation and Apostrophe band lineup. I paid four bucks Canadian to see two and a half hours of some of the tightest, most intricate, gnarliest, crystalline clear (awesome sound technicians) music played by some of the true giants in the field. As an old Woodstock era fart I've seen almost all of the very best rock bands who ever toured in the late Sixties to the mid- Seventies, and that Zappa concert was for sure among the top ten.
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I fuckin love Zappa.
Grew up listening to his earlier stuff with The Mothers of Invention.
Check out Absolutely Free, probably my favorite album of his.
the song "Brown Shoes Don't Make It" is my favorite from that album
Here's some later Zappa, Titties and Beer live from '77. Terry Bozzio is a sick drummer.
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Sheik Yerbouti is a powerhouse of an album. One of the best. But there's lots of stuff on there about fisting and S&M, just FYI.
Some really entertaining albums that haven't been mentioned: We're only in it for the Money (look for the original and the 80's mixes) Lumpy Gravy The first three albums really.
Studio Tan The Man from Utopia You Are What You Is One Size Fits All Weasels Ripped my Flesh
Laether is a good collection
The Baby Snakes movie is a must watch.
Hot Rats sucks and so does the OP for just downloading the whole discography or whatever. I'm sure you'll crap out soon enough and never come to know or appreciate any of this music/chunk of data sitting on a hard drive.
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Re: Frank Zappa [Re: Viveka]
#19222094 - 12/03/13 12:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Baby Snakes movie is a must watch.
Hell yea 
That live version of Titties and Beer I just posted is from Baby Snakes.
Here's Punky's Whips from Baby Snakes
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Re: Frank Zappa [Re: Set]
#19222200 - 12/03/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Terrible, just terrible.
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Re: Frank Zappa [Re: mpd]
#19222216 - 12/03/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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mpd said: I never got into Zappa. His music doesn't work for me. Too corny and campy.
says the man who has a nazgul as his avatar lol.
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Re: Frank Zappa [Re: Rose]
#19223163 - 12/03/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cervantes said: Just Like a Penguin in Bondage Boy!
Oh yeah oh yeah. Way over on the wet side...of the be'ed. Ahhh you must be careful...not to leave her straps TOO LOOSE.
Apostrophe Overnight Sensation Live at the Fillmore East Live at the Roxy and Elsewhere Sheik Yerbouti Not Just Another Band From LA Freak Out Joe's Garage
I was never a big fan of either Hot Rats or Weasels but the above listed are all brilliant.
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Re: Frank Zappa [Re: Ran-D]
#19224472 - 12/03/13 09:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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in what world does Hot Rats suck?
WTF, is wrong with you people? Hot Rats is awesome. it has Peaches en Regalia, cool violin parts and wicked production.
basically all of Zappa's work is awesome. it's funny when i see people nitpicking, because honestly, to do what Frank Zappa has done... you have to take chances and do things that not everyone is gonna like... some of you guys fall in the category of "not everyone"; which makes me sad.
i'd love to hear the rationale between people on why one album or another is worse of then one album or another,... seriously, i'd just love it.
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I didn't say Hot Rats sucked, I just like the listed albums a lot more. I've also heard quite a few versions of Peaches.
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Joe's Garage for sure. Enjoy.
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Dong work for Yuda, yeah man.
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If you like Chicago or any of those other 70s fusion bands I'd highly recommend Hot Rats.
This track has pretty nice guitar faffing in it.
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Thanks everyone for their reccomendations!
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Re: Frank Zappa [Re: Viveka]
#19410627 - 01/12/14 11:30 PM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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Roxy and elsewhere
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That's college rhythm!
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