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i hate to tell you i told you so...
    #19221146 - 12/03/13 08:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

but i told you so ..

repugs lead in polls...marijuana will not be legallized...

(which is not to say that the democraps would have done anything to displease their prohibitionist campaign sponsors either)...

the poll#s dont proclaim the end of the marijuana legalization movement per se.. but i dont know what else to expect if that congress is elected beyond a doubling down on the drug war...

i have said many times in several different posts that the marijuana legalization movement would abort...well it just did...but who would have ever thought that obumblecare would be the abortionist??...


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: Annapurna1] * 4
    #19221207 - 12/03/13 09:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This post makes no sense to me and probably shouldn't take up space on the news feed :shrug:


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: trampis] * 3
    #19221212 - 12/03/13 09:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I hate to tell you so....but i have no idea what you are talking about


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: redeyesmj]
    #19221218 - 12/03/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

trampis said:
This post makes no sense to me and probably shouldn't take up space on the news feed :shrug:




Quote:

redeyesmj said:
I hate to tell you so....but i have no idea what you are talking about




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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #19221220 - 12/03/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Pretty sure your posted has nothing to do with cannabis legalization, if it does, explain.


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: redeyesmj]
    #19221224 - 12/03/13 09:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

My santa hat got in the way and I couldn't figure out what was happening?


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: sunshine] * 3
    #19221260 - 12/03/13 09:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Regulars to the Politics forum will recognize that Anna's rants about Republicans frequently cause her to appear deranged.

Her sole mantra: Democrats good, Republicans bad.

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but who would have ever thought that obumblecare would be the abortionist??...




Why, anyone who realizes that Americans do not like liars and they don't like people who tell them what to do.


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19221342 - 12/03/13 09:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I love when people think there's actually a real difference between the democrats and republicans. They both suck and accomplish very little


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: Can-i-bus]
    #19221359 - 12/03/13 10:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I hate to tell you so... but both the democrats and republicans are dimwits.


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: trampis]
    #19221362 - 12/03/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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This post makes no sense to me and probably shouldn't take up space on the news feed :shrug:




he's attempting to translate right wing frothing at the mouth into Engrish

he failed miserably


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: lurkmode]
    #19221434 - 12/03/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

uh... no


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: SnowDaze]
    #19221459 - 12/03/13 10:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah some of the news feed posts on the main page need to be removed as soon as they are posted, they are terribly titles/posts.


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #19221506 - 12/03/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Annapurna1 said:
but i told you so ..

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/generic_congressional_vote-2170.html

(which is not to say that the democraps would have done anything to displease their prohibitionist campaign sponsors either)...

i have said many times in several different posts that the marijuana legalization movement would abort...well it just did...but who would have ever thought that obumblecare would be the abortionist??...



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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: funkerdslr]
    #19221529 - 12/03/13 10:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Pretty sure your posted has nothing to do with cannabis legalization, if it does, explain.




its really quite simple ..a congress full of right-wing repugnican extremists will necessarily vote to escalate the war on marijuana...and this does appear to be the case with the repugs leading in the polls...

the democraps too must answer to their prohibitionist campaign sponsors..so they wont vote to de-escalate the drug war either.. although they might not vote to escalate it (wishful thinking at best)...

as such..marijuana will not be legalized...and it looks like the war on marijuana will actually double down in the coming years...


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: Annapurna1] * 5
    #19221538 - 12/03/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

if I were moderator I would deem this thread unworthy and move it to the politics forum where it belongs...this place really has gone down the shitter without veggie :frown:


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: Can-i-bus]
    #19221544 - 12/03/13 11:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Can-i-bus said:
I love when people think there's actually a real difference between the democrats and republicans. They both suck and accomplish very little




and i made that very clear in the OP ..

Quote:

(which is not to say that the democraps would have done anything to displease their prohibitionist campaign sponsors either)...




nor do i see any reason why the OP should be so difficult to read either...i doubt any of these trolls even bothered to read it...


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: Annapurna1] * 1
    #19221594 - 12/03/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It's not immediately clear to me how that link designates an outright abortion of the MJ legalization movement...


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: st1llnox]
    #19221673 - 12/03/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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It's not immediately clear to me how that link designates an outright abortion of the MJ legalization movement...




it doesnt per se.. but its ludicrous to think that such a congress could do anything else but double down on the marijuana war...many of their voters may actually support legalization..but feel that the healthcare issue is far more important...

its one or the other.. and they will be in no position to complain about increased marijuana prohibition after they have cast that vote...


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: Annapurna1] * 2
    #19221703 - 12/03/13 11:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So, in other words. . . you shouldn't have posted this as a news story.


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: trampis]
    #19221727 - 12/03/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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So, in other words. . . you shouldn't have posted this as a news story.




:nodofunderstanding:


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... (moved) [Re: Annapurna1]
    #19221760 - 12/03/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This thread was moved from Shroomery News Service.

Reason:
Fits better here, not a news story.


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19221808 - 12/03/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

the end of the marijuana legalization movement (though not official until 2015) *is* news...just bcos its not news that anyone wanted to hear doesnt make it any less news...


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: Annapurna1] * 1
    #19221834 - 12/03/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It won't be over until its legalized. The feds will be the last to recognize it however. It will go state by state until the feds have no choice.


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #19221854 - 12/03/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

News stories have factual information in them, you just posted your opinion with a link. The rules for posting in the news section are you have to copy and paste whats in the link in the post.

You cant just make up some BS and call it news (you are not Fox) this is an OP-ED piece if anything, better luck next time Annapurna1


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: funkerdslr]
    #19222009 - 12/03/13 12:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

granted i didnt C/P the link..etc in accordance with newsfeed rules...but it is not an opinion (let alone BS) that conservative repugnicans are deathly opposed to marijuana.. and will act as such if elected to office...

Quote:






of course dr spock is conveniently missing from the picture..since logic dictates that the impending political environment is a deathknell as far as marijuana legalization is concerned...


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #19222343 - 12/03/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It depends which repuglican gets elected.

actually it more likely makes no difference, I doubt weed will ever be legalized even if there is a pro legalization president and 100% of the people want it.  There is too much money being made by special interests.


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: Can-i-bus] * 1
    #19222358 - 12/03/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Can-i-bus said:
I love when people think there's actually a real difference between the democrats and republicans. They both suck and accomplish very little




There are differences. They each want to fuck you in different ways.


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19222625 - 12/03/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Polls are only polls.

I wait for the real result.


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: Patlal]
    #19222693 - 12/03/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

OP's claim is absurd considering that we now have two states where marijuana is legal for recreational use. The population is becoming increasingly permissive of marijuana use whether for medical or personal purposes. The republican party is suppose to advocate small government and states rights. I know the lines become blurred when politicians have pharmaceutical companies and prison unions funding their campaign, but they can't white wash this issue much longer.


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: trampis]
    #19222709 - 12/03/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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but they can't white wash this issue much longer.




It will be decades before the Feds back down and legalize.


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: trampis]
    #19222721 - 12/03/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

OP, you are so largely generalizing and predicting an issue. The fact that you think all republicans don't want to legalize weed is so outdated and just wrong in general.


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: psyconaught]
    #19223110 - 12/03/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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It won't be over until its legalized. The feds will be the last to recognize it however. It will go state by state until the feds have no choice.




You mean like the republicants and gay marriage


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: sweeper54]
    #19223120 - 12/03/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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sweeper54 said:
Quote:

psyconaught said:
It won't be over until its legalized. The feds will be the last to recognize it however. It will go state by state until the feds have no choice.




You mean like the republicants and gay marriage



pretty much. its gonna go state by state. Though i don't know if the feds will ever legalize gay marriage on a nationwide scale. They'll probably leave it up to the states to decide.


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: DirtyTomFlint]
    #19223123 - 12/03/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:


OP, you are so largely generalizing and predicting an issue. The fact that you think all republicans don't want to legalize weed is so outdated and just wrong in general.




forgetting the fact that your not even an american.. there are always exceptions...but the behaviour of the far right on this subject in the past suggests that its a pretty safe prediction to make...

nor did you even bother to explain why you think thats not the case either.. and im a bit curious as to why you think its so...


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: Annapurna1] * 2
    #19223373 - 12/03/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The left wants to ban trans fats and cigarettes.  Thanks for playing.


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: psyconaught]
    #19223404 - 12/03/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

psyconaught said:
Quote:

sweeper54 said:
Quote:

psyconaught said:
It won't be over until its legalized. The feds will be the last to recognize it however. It will go state by state until the feds have no choice.




You mean like the republicants and gay marriage



pretty much. its gonna go state by state. Though i don't know if the feds will ever legalize gay marriage on a nationwide scale. They'll probably leave it up to the states to decide.




They have dropped the defense of DOMA and have allowed open gayety in the military. It just a matter of time before all the states recognize gay rights.


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19223417 - 12/03/13 06:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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The left wants to ban trans fats and cigarettes.  Thanks for playing.





Ban, no, tax the fuck out of them, YES.

You can do whatever you want with the TFs.


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: sweeper54] * 2
    #19223472 - 12/03/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19225615 - 12/04/13 07:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I wish Democrats would publicly come out in favor of not killing yourself.

The Republican Party would vanish overnight. Zappaisgod would be one of the first to go.


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: lurkmode]
    #19226465 - 12/04/13 12:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I eat what I want with no regard.
I drink what I want with no regard.
I smoke what I want with no regard.

When I die I will die with very few regrets.  The two biggest are that I turned down too many chubby chicks and I didn't take fencing in high school.  Not taking care of myself will not be one of them, though.


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    #19226510 - 12/04/13 12:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

I didn't take fencing in high school.




haha why do you regret this?


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    #19226548 - 12/04/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

and you'll die a sad, grumpy individual Zappaisgod

too bad you didn't get the chance to chug DDT when you still had the FREEDOM to do so


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    #19226569 - 12/04/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I took a course in fencing in school, Three Strand Barbed, miles of it.

and again in the Army: Double apron, Triple concertina, tangle foot...


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    #19226571 - 12/04/13 12:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

who are you to tell anyone what makes them happy?


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    #19226665 - 12/04/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

have you ever seen his posts? he's an angry person. I guess that could make him happy but he probably has daddy issues if you get my drip.

Idc if he wants to get all dead on trans fats but banning them outright because they serve no purpose other than heart disease is not destroying people's freedoms.

he just wants to bitch for the sake of bitching because there is a black in the White House.


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    #19226692 - 12/04/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm sure he is angry. We have a piss poor government right now, i'm pissed off too. I'm still a happy person though.

trans fats serve the purpose of adding flavor and extending shelf life. Banning what someone can or cannot consume/sell/buy IS infringing upon freedoms.

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    #19226744 - 12/04/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

eat a bag of trans fat psychonutsack for FREEEDOMMMM

DERRRRRP


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    #19226757 - 12/04/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If i choose to eat foods containing frans fats i should have the right to do so. Its none of your business.

Also 'psychonutsack' is flaming and grounds for a ban.


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    #19226768 - 12/04/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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eat a bag of trans fat psychonutsack for FREEEDOMMMM

DERRRRRP





Ya! everyone else is a fucking tool besides people that know.

THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX

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    #19226787 - 12/04/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

go ahead and eat all the trans fat while you can

lol

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    #19226792 - 12/04/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i don't even eat trans fats. I just don't think its the governments business telling me what i am allowed to eat.


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    #19226811 - 12/04/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

so it's not their role to tell you not to eat lettuce laden with E. coli?

so you just eat it and die and then you have retained your freedom to die from eating shit that they could have kept the public from having access to?

such fucked up views of FREEEEEDOMMMMMM


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    #19226837 - 12/04/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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so you just eat it and die and then you have retained your freedom to die from eating shit that they could have kept the public from having access to?




I'm sure you support the government's position on illegal drugs as well?


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    #19226848 - 12/04/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I support legalization of weed and psychedelics. All other drugs can fuck off.

Go ahead and tell me I'm wrong. I don't give two shits what any of you think.


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    #19226855 - 12/04/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Consuming something which has E. coli that you are unaware of is not comparable to choosing to eat something that has trans fats of which you are aware :shrug:


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    #19226860 - 12/04/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

and ftr, we're talking about food here.

a 3-year-old eating tainted broccoli isn't the same thing as a 3-year-old eating heroin.

but hey, false equivalencies are be good moving goal posts.


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    #19226865 - 12/04/13 02:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yet they test for such things. they say this lettuce has E. coli and you could get sick - don't eat it. or they can say this cinnamon bun has trans fat and you could get sick - don't eat it.

I guess y'all don't really fucking care that much if your food has absolute shit in it because that's the American way, huh?

Morbidly obese = LIBERTY, DERRRRRRRP

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    #19226885 - 12/04/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:canthelpbutlaugh:

you really don't have a clue.


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you don't have a clue

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    #19226920 - 12/04/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

People can choose to eat shitty food and be in shitty health if they want. The government doesn't need to step in and make that decision for anyone.


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    #19226929 - 12/04/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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If i choose to eat foods containing frans fats i should have the right to do so. Its none of your business.






And when you drive your car you couldn't be REQUIRED to wear a seatbelt or a helmet on a motorcycle and we should be able to get Coke  WITH REAL COKE IN IT!

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    #19226934 - 12/04/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

thanks Sweeper - nice to know that not everyone is blind with libertarianism around here


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    #19226950 - 12/04/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Do you guys seriously not see the difference between harming the environment and people choosing to harm themselves by having the choice of what they put into their bodies?


DERRRRPPPP

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    #19226988 - 12/04/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

health care costs brah

some people are fucking stupid beyond repair


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    #19226992 - 12/04/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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If i choose to eat foods containing frans fats i should have the right to do so. Its none of your business.






And when you drive your car you couldn't be REQUIRED to wear a seatbelt or a helmet on a motorcycle and we should be able to get Coke  WITH REAL COKE IN IT!

Bring back Lead Paint!

FUCK the ozone layer CFC forever!



You shouldn't be required to wear a seatbelt or wear a helmet either. At least if your over 18. And I believe in drug legalization for all drugs. so yes they should be able to sell coke a cola with actual cocaine in it as well, provided you are over 18.


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    #19227000 - 12/04/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



Yeah, well…that’s just like, your opinion, man.


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    #19227004 - 12/04/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

and why should the gov't tell you that you can't have coke until your 18. kinda weakening your own argument brahhhhh

FREEDOM?????

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    #19227010 - 12/04/13 02:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

exactly. and everything you said is just an opinion as well. neither of our opinions is more valid than the other. So why do you feel like you need to force your opinion down my throat? Why are you not content with letting me live my life as i see fit providing i am not hurting another human being?


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    #19227018 - 12/04/13 02:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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and why should the gov't tell you that you can't have coke until your 18. kinda weakening your own argument brahhhhh

FREEDOM?????

:laugh:ummiesabound:



because i'm a libertarian not an anarchist. Once someone reaches the age of adulthood they should have the right to choose what they do with their own body.


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    #19227020 - 12/04/13 02:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

eating shit you know that could give you heart disease costs money brah.

I'm guessing armchairs like you know little about economics anyway so I'm not even sure why I'm schooling you like this.


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    #19227024 - 12/04/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

who sets the age of adulthood?

the gov't? fucking fascism I tell ya

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    #19227041 - 12/04/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

When did economics come into this discussion? You are not 'schooling' anybody on anything. Your flaming because someone has a different opinion than you. Now if you want to have a mature debate i'd be glad to continue this discussion. However if you're just going to be immature and throw tantrums because someone has a different opinion i see no reason to continue this.


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    #19227046 - 12/04/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

sicko, should someone be able to possess uranium 238 and eat hocakes with it in them?

show your work


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    #19227047 - 12/04/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I didn't take fencing in high school.




haha why do you regret this?




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I support legalization of weed and psychedelics. All other drugs can fuck off.

Go ahead and tell me I'm wrong. I don't give two shits what any of you think.



You are a meddlesome, know nothing prohibitionist.


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eating shit you know that could give you heart disease costs money brah.

I'm guessing armchairs like you know little about economics anyway so I'm not even sure why I'm schooling you like this.





actually that's kinda a valid point. I think people that choose to eat shit should be treated similar to cigarette smokers in the healthcare system.


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    #19227069 - 12/04/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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psyconaught said:
If i choose to eat foods containing frans fats i should have the right to do so. Its none of your business.






And when you drive your car you couldn't be REQUIRED to wear a seatbelt or a helmet on a motorcycle and we should be able to get Coke  WITH REAL COKE IN IT!




Correct
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Bring back Lead Paint!




Not the same thing although it seems to have nourished you.  But it wasn't your choice so, I vote no
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FUCK the ozone layer CFC forever!




Also not the same thing


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    #19227077 - 12/04/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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health care costs brah

some people are fucking stupid beyond repair



I got an idea.  You pay for your health care and I'll pay for mine and we both mind our own fucking business.  How's that for a concept, nanny?


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sicko, should someone be able to possess uranium 238 and eat hocakes with it in them?

show your work



Uranium 238 actually happens to be the most common type of naturally occurring isotope of uranium on the planet. So i suppose if someone was so inclined to eat it who am i to tell them they are not allowed to? What are you gonna do? Put someone is a concrete cage because they ate a radioactive hotcake :lol:


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    #19227082 - 12/04/13 02:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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lurkmode said:
I support legalization of weed and psychedelics. All other drugs can fuck off.

Go ahead and tell me I'm wrong. I don't give two shits what any of you think.



You are a meddlesome, know nothing prohibitionist.




you need to update your footer image. I bet you're WAAAAAY to scared to do that though because it wouldn't come close to reflecting your shitty line of attack.

nevermind, leave it because it proves people like you are stuck in the past and pick and choose what bits of info that fits into your narrative.


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sry, 235. what now?


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Quote:

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lurkmode said:
I support legalization of weed and psychedelics. All other drugs can fuck off.

Go ahead and tell me I'm wrong. I don't give two shits what any of you think.



You are a meddlesome, know nothing prohibitionist.




you need to update your footer image. I bet you're WAAAAAY to scared to do that though because it wouldn't come close to reflecting your shitty line of attack.

nevermind, leave it because it proves people like you are stuck in the past and pick and choose what bits of info that fits into your narrative.



Actually it's worse now (Phred gave me an update) but I don't remember how I managed to put it there in the first place.


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Quote:

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Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Quote:

lurkmode said:
I support legalization of weed and psychedelics. All other drugs can fuck off.

Go ahead and tell me I'm wrong. I don't give two shits what any of you think.



You are a meddlesome, know nothing prohibitionist.




you need to update your footer image. I bet you're WAAAAAY to scared to do that though because it wouldn't come close to reflecting your shitty line of attack.

nevermind, leave it because it proves people like you are stuck in the past and pick and choose what bits of info that fits into your narrative.



his signature has nothing to do with you being a prohibitionist. Your one to talk about being stuck in the past. When has prohibition ever worked for anything ever?


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    #19227104 - 12/04/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

so you think legalizing meth is better than keeping it illegal?

think real hard brah - if you can


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sry, 235. what now?



should they be prosecuted for eating it? No because that serves no purpose. Though obtaining it should require a license imo.


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so you think legalizing meth is better than keeping it illegal?

think real hard brah - if you can



yes i do. A very small percentage of meth users actually become addicted, so why should we punish those that use it responsibly? Addiction should be a public health issue not a criminal issue.


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sry, 235. what now?



should they be prosecuted for eating it? No because that serves no purpose. Though obtaining it should require a license imo.




Socialist!!!!!


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sry, 235. what now?



should they be prosecuted for eating it? No because that serves no purpose. Though obtaining it should require a license imo.




Socialist!!!!!



a government existing is not socialism. I am not an anarchist.


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    #19227185 - 12/04/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

but banning a harmful substance is tyranny? gotcha

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taking meth is no ones business but the person who takes it. Why do you care what happens inside my home?


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Quote:

psyconaught said:
If i choose to eat foods containing frans fats i should have the right to do so. Its none of your business.






And when you drive your car you couldn't be REQUIRED to wear a seatbelt or a helmet on a motorcycle and we should be able to get Coke  WITH REAL COKE IN IT!

Bring back Lead Paint!

FUCK the ozone layer CFC forever!



You shouldn't be required to wear a seatbelt or wear a helmet either. At least if your over 18. And I believe in drug legalization for all drugs. so yes they should be able to sell coke a cola with actual cocaine in it as well, provided you are over 18.





It easy then, move to NH, they don't have to wear either (unless your under 18) "Live Free or Die".


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sure it is dummy.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/30/federal-deficit-below-1-trillion-first-time-obama/



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If i choose to eat foods containing frans fats i should have the right to do so. Its none of your business.






And when you drive your car you couldn't be REQUIRED to wear a seatbelt or a helmet on a motorcycle and we should be able to get Coke  WITH REAL COKE IN IT!

Bring back Lead Paint!

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You shouldn't be required to wear a seatbelt or wear a helmet either. At least if your over 18. And I believe in drug legalization for all drugs. so yes they should be able to sell coke a cola with actual cocaine in it as well, provided you are over 18.





It easy then, move to NH, they don't have to wear either (unless your under 18) "Live Free or Die".



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leave it up to zappisgod to not know the difference between debt and deficit.

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taking meth is no ones business but the person who takes it. Why do you care what happens inside my home?




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taking meth is no ones business but the person who takes it. Why do you care what happens inside my home?




federal law says otherwise.

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When has prohibition ever worked for anything ever?



Wow...That'd be a long list.  Prohibition has proven to be highly effective at altering people's behavior.  Except in the context of drugs and alcohol, prohibition works pretty fucking well.

You don't see a lot of DDT being sprayed, do you?


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leave it up to zappisgod to not know the difference between debt and deficit.

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When has prohibition ever worked for anything ever?



Wow...That'd be a long list.  Prohibition has proven to be highly effective at altering people's behavior.  Except in the context of drugs and alcohol, prohibition works pretty fucking well.

You don't see a lot of DDT being sprayed, do you?




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I'd agree with them, but my point still stands.  Prohibition of DDT was very effective at getting people to stop using DDT.


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When has prohibition ever worked for anything ever?



Wow...That'd be a long list.  Prohibition has proven to be highly effective at altering people's behavior.  Except in the context of drugs and alcohol, prohibition works pretty fucking well.

You don't see a lot of DDT being sprayed, do you?



DDT is banned from being used agriculturally. Its still used inside of homes to combat malaria.


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Please name household pesticides containing DDT in the U.S.  Thanks in advance.


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http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/factsheets/chemicals/ddt-brief-history-status.htm
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In September 2006, the World Health Organization (WHO) declared its support for the indoor use of DDT in African countries where malaria remains a major health problem, citing that benefits of the pesticide outweigh the health and environmental risks. This is consistent with the Stockholm Convention on POPs, which bans DDT for all uses except for malaria control.

DDT is one of 12 pesticides recommended by the WHO for indoor residual spray programs. It is up to countries to decide whether or not to use DDT. EPA works with other agencies and countries to advise them on how DDT programs are developed and monitored, with the goal that DDT be used only within the context of Integrated Vector Management programs, and that it be kept out of agricultural sectors.




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Which has nothing to do with the US


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I'm not sure what your point is.  You said, "When has prohibition ever worked for anything ever?" and I gave you DDT as an example of prohibition working.

What relevance is it that in some African countries, it's legal?  The point remains valid that where it is illegal, prohibition is effective at changing people's behavior.


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in the U.S.




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my bad i didn't see the U.S part. When i made the original statement in regards to ddt i was referring to a global scale.


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So, you admit now that prohibition is generally effective?


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It depends on what you mean by "worked"


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In that it succeeds in altering people's behavior as planned.


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Every action by anyone alters people's behavior


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what is the behavior? Using that particular substance/item? Or something more broad? People still use dangerous pesticides. The use of that particular chemical has gone down. But the behavior of using dangerous pesticides has not.


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What does that have to do with what I said?  Did you not read "as planned" or were you just ignoring it for the purpose of making some pseudo-intellectual argument?


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what is the behavior? Using that particular substance/item? Or something more broad? People still use dangerous pesticides. The use of that particular chemical has gone down. But the behavior of using dangerous pesticides has not.



The ban on DDT was meant to stop people from using DDT.  It has accomplished that.  I don't see any rational argument that the ban didn't "work."


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What does that have to do with what I said?  Did you not read "as planned" or were you just ignoring it for the purpose of making some pseudo-intellectual argument?



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what is the behavior? Using that particular substance/item? Or something more broad? People still use dangerous pesticides. The use of that particular chemical has gone down. But the behavior of using dangerous pesticides has not.



The ban on DDT was meant to stop people from using DDT.  It has accomplished that.  I don't see any rational argument that the ban didn't "work."



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Is that behavior, zappa?  More specifically, is that people's behavior?  I didn't think so.

The point is that prohibition almost always works insofar as it stops people from doing whatever behavior was prohibited.  One notable exception, of course, is drug prohibition.


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One notable exception, of course, is drug prohibition.



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Firearm bans are probably pretty effective, too...where the government has the power to pass them.  In the U.S., of course, firearm bans are unconstitutional.

However, there are plenty of constitutionally permissible weapons bans in the U.S. that have proven to be quite effective.  When was the last time you saw someone walking down the street with an RPG?  Or with a nuke in the back of his Chevy s10?


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Is that behavior, zappa?  More specifically, is that people's behavior?  I didn't think so.

The point is that prohibition almost always works insofar as it stops people from doing whatever behavior was prohibited.  One notable exception, of course, is drug prohibition.



I might add murder, rape and robbery to the list of things that prohibition has not ended.  Need I go on?


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Firearm bans are probably pretty effective, too...where the government has the power to pass them.  In the U.S., of course, firearm bans are unconstitutional.




You might want to come to NYC and try to get a carry permit
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However, there are plenty of constitutionally permissible weapons bans in the U.S. that have proven to be quite effective.  When was the last time you saw someone walking down the street with an RPG?  Or with a nuke in the back of his Chevy s10?




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Are you saying that murder, rape, and robbery occur at the same or similar rate as they would if they were not prohibited?

Nothing can ever change behavior in 100% of people, of course...there will always be those who do whatever they want.  The law can only address those who are caught, after all.

Still, I'd say that murder, rape, and robbery are far less common than they would be if they were legal.


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Not having a permit to carry isn't the same as being prohibited from owning a firearm.  Are you impaired tonight, dude?  You're definitely out in left field.


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Are you saying that murder, rape, and robbery occur at the same or similar rate as they would if they were not prohibited?




I don't know.  But they still occur.
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Nothing can every change behavior in 100% of people, of course...there will always be those who do whatever they want.  The law can only address those who are caught, after all.




I believe you were making a point that there is zero DDT use in the US.
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Still, I'd say that murder, rape, and robbery are far less common than they would be if they were legal.




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eating shit you know that could give you heart disease costs money brah.

I'm guessing armchairs like you know little about economics anyway so I'm not even sure why I'm schooling you like this.





actually that's kinda a valid point. I think people that choose to eat shit should be treated similar to cigarette smokers in the healthcare system.




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Not having a permit to carry isn't the same as being prohibited from owning a firearm.  Are you impaired tonight, dude?  You're definitely out in left field.



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I believe you were making a point that there is zero DDT use in the US.



No.  What I originally said was:


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You don't see a lot of DDT being sprayed, do you?




It's ridiculous to think that any behavior can be 100% eliminated by prohibition.  I would never make that argument.  My argument is that prohibition is generally highly effective outside of the context of drugs, and I'd probably also add teen sex.


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Go try to get a permit in NYC.  And a prohibition from wearing it on your hip or under your coat is prohibition.



And I'd argue that the prohibition has drastically reduced the number of people who carry firearms in NYC without a permit.


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Firearm bans are probably pretty effective, too...where the government has the power to pass them.  In the U.S., of course, firearm bans are unconstitutional.




You might want to come to NYC and try to get a carry permit
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However, there are plenty of constitutionally permissible weapons bans in the U.S. that have proven to be quite effective.  When was the last time you saw someone walking down the street with an RPG?  Or with a nuke in the back of his Chevy s10?




There are probably more illegal guns in NYC than permits



you'll probably find these articles interesting http://reason.com/blog/2013/12/04/new-york-wont-reveal-how-few-residents-h

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Go try to get a permit in NYC.  And a prohibition from wearing it on your hip or under your coat is prohibition.



And I'd argue that the prohibition has drastically reduced the number of people who carry firearms in NYC without a permit.




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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19227940 - 12/04/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Laugh all you want, but states that require no permit to carry have a much higher percentage of people who carry without a permit than states that require a permit.


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: lurkmode] * 1
    #19227970 - 12/04/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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sure it is dummy.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/30/federal-deficit-below-1-trillion-first-time-obama/




Actually, you have been suckered.  All they did was put $328 billion into fiscal year 2014 because of the debt ceiling issues.

If you add the $328 billion onto the $680 billion, you get over $1 trillion in debt for fiscal year 2013.

So before you call people dummies for not knowing something, just realize it's you that fell for this misinformation hook, line and sinker.


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: Enlil]
    #19228030 - 12/04/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Laugh all you want, but states that require no permit to carry have a much higher percentage of people who carry without a permit than states that require a permit.



:facepalm:They all carry without a permit if a permit doesn't exist


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19228040 - 12/04/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yup...you're starting to get it.


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    #19228085 - 12/04/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Starting to?  Why do you think I was laughing at you?


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    #19229268 - 12/04/13 10:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The point is that prohibition almost always works insofar as it stops people from doing whatever behavior was prohibited.




Absolute bullshit. Tell me then what was the purpose of your ambulance chasing profession? Is it not to incarcerate those that have indulged in "prohibited behaviors" if your ridiculous statements held even the least bit of water we would have no use for prisons and the corrupt "justice system" made up of self serving politician/lawyers.

All prohibition does as stated before is "Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."

-Abraham Lincoln (1809-65) U.S. President.

Of course is does make millions for the penal system, judges, scumbag lawyers, politicians, and law enforcement. Thank god for prohibition, now no one buys hookers, smokes weed, gambles, drives over the speed limit, jay walks, is intoxicated in public, eats shrooms, commits insider trading, or doesn't defend the constitution as they were sworn to do. Jesus christ Diaznon is illegal and I use it all the time, so do millions of others.

Funny thing about DDT though, couldn't use it as it is soooo dangerous to humans, but the WHO suggests ONLY using it INSIDE?!

Also, its used in Mexico, central and South America, thank God we don't have agreements like NAFTA, and CAFTA, which would allow produce from those countries sprayed with DDT to actually come to America, to be consumed by the American public. Yeah, thanks alot for looking out for the american public fucking politicians. Our farmers can't use the cheaper insecticides, but our people can ingest it though. Makes perfects sense, once again.


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: Therian]
    #19230080 - 12/05/13 05:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Absolute bullshit. Tell me then what was the purpose of your ambulance chasing profession? Is it not to incarcerate those that have indulged in "prohibited behaviors" if your ridiculous statements held even the least bit of water we would have no use for prisons and the corrupt "justice system" made up of self serving politician/lawyers.


No law written by humans will ever enjoy 100% compliance.  Are you 12?  If we ended the prohibition on murder today, do you really think that society would be better? 
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Of course is does make millions for the penal system, judges, scumbag lawyers, politicians, and law enforcement. Thank god for prohibition, now no one buys hookers, smokes weed, gambles, drives over the speed limit, jay walks, is intoxicated in public, eats shrooms, commits insider trading, or doesn't defend the constitution as they were sworn to do. Jesus christ Diaznon is illegal and I use it all the time, so do millions of others.

Funny thing about DDT though, couldn't use it as it is soooo dangerous to humans, but the WHO suggests ONLY using it INSIDE?!

Also, its used in Mexico, central and South America, thank God we don't have agreements like NAFTA, and CAFTA, which would allow produce from those countries sprayed with DDT to actually come to America, to be consumed by the American public. Yeah, thanks alot for looking out for the american public fucking politicians. Our farmers can't use the cheaper insecticides, but our people can ingest it though. Makes perfects sense, once again.


Another great rant from someone who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.  Kudos, bro...you've once again shown your complete ignorance.


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    #19231759 - 12/05/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I could have swore DDT was banned because it damaged bird eggs causing their numbers to plummet to endangered. Lets be honest, nobody cares about Africa except humanitarians, missionaries and multinational corporations.


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    #19233103 - 12/05/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I could have swore DDT was banned because it damaged bird eggs causing their numbers to plummet to endangered. Lets be honest, nobody cares about Africa except humanitarians, missionaries and multinational corporations.





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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: funkerdslr]
    #19234244 - 12/05/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Kudos, bro...you've once again shown your complete ignorance.





LMAO, never once have I heard a non effeminate heterosexual male use the word kudos as you do.

Nothing I wrote was incorrect, you madam, are the one that is full of shit.

DDT CAN be used in Mexico, Central, and South America. We then import said produce sprayed with DDT. Our farmers can not use it, but the American consumer CAN ingest it when eating the produce.

Of course scumbag lawyers and their lying brethren love prohibition, as Lincoln stated it makes criminals out of those that are not.

Sure, prohibit something, watch as the worthless politicians lawyers drool at the proposition that they will have their pockets lined, watch as the reprobate lawyers wet themselves over the fact that their greedy, little hands will be greased, knowing full well they will be paid handsomely to prosecute as well as defend the new "criminals" that engaged in prohibited acts. Watch as the ex lawyer/judges salivate knowing they will be paid to put the "criminals" into cages and listen to the piece of shit lawyers.  See how law enforcement creams just knowing they will be paid handsomely, and given overtime to prosecute the "criminals" that are engaging in prohibited acts. Of course the American public is taxed to pay these people to engage in their new "wars" on prohibited behavior.

See how the jails, wardens, guards, are jumping for joy with the prospect of having so many more "criminals" in cages for prohibited acts, or victim-less crimes.  No victims? Dont worry, lying douchebag lawyers will manage to bullshit their way into proclaiming that somehow, somewhere, someone is a victim of victim-less crimes, and WE need to pay them to incarcerate the so called "offenders" in victim-less crimes.

Watch how corporations just love how the American public will pay them to construct corporate jails, forcing Americans to put their neighbors in cages for non violent "prohibited" behaviors. Watch as the corrupt, self serving "justice system" rife with chicken shit ambulance chasers grows, and collects ever greater funds from the tax payers.

Fucking depraved lawyers, only these assholes could come up with a system where they could file class action lawsuits whereas they and their law firms can rake in ten of millions of dollars, whereas the actual victims of crimes get "vouchers" or fucking coupons. Yes, fucking coupons. What an honorable profession, rife with upstanding Clinton, and John Edwards types.


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: Therian]
    #19234267 - 12/05/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Oh yes DDT had to be banned to save bald eagles. Don't fucking worry though, if you be a piece of shit, lying lawyer such as Obama bald eagles are only important if DDT kills them. If you use the liberal wet dream of "wind turbines" then killing eagles doesn't matter. See how if you kill them with alternative energy then their death is overlooked, if they are killed through any other process then it is wrong.

As a matter of fact the shit stained president has given the go ahead to allow wind turbine owners to kill bald eagles unabated for decades to come. Lying hypocritical douchebag much?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/05/administration-close-to-finalizing-rule-to-allow-wind-farms-to-kill-eagles-for/


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Re: i hate to tell you i told you so... [Re: Therian]
    #19235242 - 12/06/13 05:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So you'd rather live in a society where nothing is prohibited?  Murder, rape, theft...it's all okay in your book?


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    #19235868 - 12/06/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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So you'd rather live in a society where nothing is prohibited?  Murder, rape, theft...it's all okay in your book?





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