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Re: The Ultimate surrender. [Re: Icelander]
#19220998 - 12/03/13 08:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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what?
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Re: The Ultimate surrender. [Re: hTx]
#19221036 - 12/03/13 08:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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or rather, feel it. (;
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redgreenvines said: what?
Hey that's my line.
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OrgoneConclusion said: Did anyone mention not resisting the advances of Cuddles, your cellmate?

"C'mere wife!"
exactly ! the best figure there..and believe it is far more present that then true realities ... because it is truly relative only that one, I mean that different ones ... as one life, from infinite point of vue bringing them out as more present then conditions all .. because conditioners principally are wrong by meaning that what they know could bring anything to show .. even the reverse of truth only truth reveals it in truth TERMS
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Re: The Ultimate surrender. [Re: absols]
#19221543 - 12/03/13 11:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The ultimate surrender is to be stagnant; indecisive; lazy.
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Re: The Ultimate surrender. [Re: DrugsRGood]
#19221553 - 12/03/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Interesting perspective.
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Re: The Ultimate surrender. [Re: absols]
#19221586 - 12/03/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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or ultimate surrender is about the end .. when the conditioners will admit being inferiors to the being they conditioned .. so they would admit how truth is everything and any even out of worse limitations to
how there cant be a source but truth .. even if that means how a lot would be then never true .. and how they must surrender fast and have no choice, if the want to avoid the worse always more they cant predict nor expect, but a more certainty that they will never enjoy seeing anything anymore, while belonging forever to very limited ones as having to admit being the same forever more, which show the end of ultimate surrender means, in true living fact
I am not shit, but you up there the most involved in the beginning of existence fabrications.. are the shit end under shit ones freed
for everybody here reading this, joking lols.. what they did, is making a condition based on good ones must suffer and bad ones would be the condition life, so positive then what is known being good should be rejected from life ... what is not known being any would be a bit between both what is known being bad would always be living up conditions, as gods which fast will be free out abusing their powers on life conditions known, to become way worse freely
the idea is what conditions are meaning being the best conditions for truth to be
so by reversing the true order, it is the best way for freedom to be the reason of any reality
like what is true would have to rejecting all so showing being free, especially at the end, the division between good and bad would be clear
and who is known being good hundred percent from the start will be the most down out of conditions, resisting as it can all
this is what was meant as the starting point of true logics existence
but this is wrong ! from many many ways ... especially the most objective and obvious ways
this is how it is not at all what was expected nor meant
and they are here disabled totally from any move or sense, all... one
like you love to repeat, all one and one all you got it
and don't look at me nor at any other good ... we are nothing but farts on your face .. at the end we are equal superficially obviously, you are shit and we are not shit, you cant do a thing but we can fart on you this is joking of course ... but it should start symbolically like that or in concept that I see like because truth is always any and all, so who are good enjoy the presence of truth so they can fart on what don't enjoy it and conditioners that enjoy meaning truth as being something to be.. will be the thing that bigger things will teach how to be something
conditioners ! stop daring thinking that you can do something about truth
when you cant act as being the same out of any truth you mean knowing, much more then if it was something present or a fact seen ... then you go to hell forced to be the same with one only fact end... and I don't think that truth mean by that for you to learn anything ..you know truth never look back
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Re: The Ultimate surrender. [Re: Icelander]
#19221720 - 12/03/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Interesting perspective. 
I should thank my own worthless and stagnant life for that. 
Well at least I accept it now. 
I don't want to hope that I'll change because I'm a perfectionist. With no hope, no despair, right?
But still, it is time. To hop on the life train.
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Re: The Ultimate surrender. [Re: DrugsRGood]
#19221844 - 12/03/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hope can be a killer in either direction.
My life has been pretty much a wash also. The best thing one can do under such circumstances is surrender.
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Re: The Ultimate surrender. [Re: Icelander]
#19221878 - 12/03/13 12:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Surrendering? I suppose that is an option. It's a decision, that's a fact. Much better than to hope for something that isn't there or to demand unrealistic expectations from oneself.
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Re: The Ultimate surrender. [Re: DrugsRGood]
#19221907 - 12/03/13 12:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Surrender, relax, let it go, give up the fight, etc.
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Re: The Ultimate surrender. [Re: DrugsRGood]
#19221913 - 12/03/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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"Do not try, do!" -Yoda.
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Re: The Ultimate surrender. [Re: Icyus]
#19221944 - 12/03/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So life is not a fight?
Interesting.
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Re: The Ultimate surrender. [Re: DrugsRGood]
#19221989 - 12/03/13 12:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The path of the warrior is a fight. The path of the adventurer is a journey. The path of the abused is a living hell... ect..
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Re: The Ultimate surrender. [Re: Icyus]
#19222024 - 12/03/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So life is what you make it to be.
I'm starting to think that life is an opportunity; a privilege. You are born on this earth in what seems like a random point in time but only once.
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Re: The Ultimate surrender. [Re: DrugsRGood]
#19222084 - 12/03/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Okay sorry for jacking this thread. I'll leave you all be. Apparently I've got to use some time for reflection.
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Re: The Ultimate surrender. [Re: DrugsRGood]
#19222133 - 12/03/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The "you" who is now, will only be born to this earth once, yet a second later, the "you" has changed..
Even though each day might be a living hell of what seems to be eternal damnation or an everlasting, ever increasing bliss, it is still a priveliege, and it is the "you" who decides if it is hell or heaven... our many forms of culture, and norms have however set it that some things must be bad, while others good.. but one does not have to be controlled either..
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Re: The Ultimate surrender. [Re: Icyus]
#19222273 - 12/03/13 01:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I for one, pride myself with a freedom which many people do not have. This ability to live by my own morals and values (and mine alone) is something I have taken for granted...
I like to live an adventurous life but I've been clinging on to false hope for so many years.
And anticipation is what fuels this adventurous life, is what I'm realizing at this moment.
There is no destination to arrive to. There is just a road and a feeling of anticipation for what is next.
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Re: The Ultimate surrender. [Re: Icelander]
#19222434 - 12/03/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Surrender, relax, let it go, give up the fight, etc.
"Do not go bravely into that dark night but whimper and cower at the dying of the light..."
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