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NetDiver
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Most philosophical rock song ever? 1
#19220350 - 12/03/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Okay, well I don't know if I'd actually say it's the most philosophical, per se, but I don't ever think I've seen or heard anything else which describes so well the mindset of an opiate addict, and, more than that, of somebody just totally fed up with living a modern, urbanized life. I mean, look at the world in which we currently live, where every year on Black Friday a few people kill each other to get better deals on merchandise, where two-faced politicians and purveyors of religious nonsense are always able to find a willing ear, a shout of allegiance, or a financial handout; where slaughter is committed on a massive scale and justified with hollow appeals to patriotism and justice. And then, for some of us, comes that realization that you're no better than the rest, that you're ultimately part of the very same crowd that put those people in power.
Who hasn't felt the temptation to take a permanent vacation from caring and concern?
Anyway, discuss, or just listen to this awesome song by the Velvet Underground.
I don't know just where I'm going But I'm gonna try for the kingdom, if I can 'Cause it makes me feel like I'm a man When I put a spike into my vein And I'll tell ya, things aren't quite the same When I'm rushing on my run And I feel just like Jesus' son And I guess that I just don't know And I guess that I just don't know
I have made the big decision I'm gonna try to nullify my life 'Cause when the blood begins to flow When it shoots up the dropper's neck When I'm closing in on death And you can't help me now, you guys And all you girls with all your sweet talk You can all go take a walk And I guess that I just don't know And I guess that I just don't know
I wish that I was born a thousand years ago I wish that I'd sail the darkened seas On a great big clipper ship Going from this land here to that In a sailor's suit and cap Away from the big city Where a man can not be free Of all of the evils of this town And of himself, and those around Oh, and I guess that I just don't know Oh, and I guess that I just don't know
Heroin, be the death of me Heroin, it's my wife and it's my life Because a mainer to my vein Leads to a center in my head And then I'm better off and dead Because when the smack begins to flow I really don't care anymore About all the Jim-Jim's in this town And all the politicians makin' crazy sounds And everybody puttin' everybody else down And all the dead bodies piled up in mounds
'Cause when the smack begins to flow Then I really don't care anymore Ah, when the heroin is in my blood And that blood is in my head Then thank God that I'm as good as dead Then thank your God that I'm not aware And thank God that I just don't care And I guess I just don't know And I guess I just don't know
Edited by NetDiver (12/03/13 01:36 AM)
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Re: Most philosophical rock song ever? [Re: NetDiver]
#19220445 - 12/03/13 01:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i couldn't even finish it it was so bad...fuckin melodramatic pussy city kids trying too hard to be cool
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NetDiver
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Re: Most philosophical rock song ever? [Re: zoomfan]
#19220450 - 12/03/13 01:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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NetDiver
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Re: Most philosophical rock song ever? [Re: NetDiver]
#19220465 - 12/03/13 01:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think you're the one trying too hard to be cool, though.
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Re: Most philosophical rock song ever? [Re: NetDiver]
#19220484 - 12/03/13 02:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Love it
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Re: Most philosophical rock song ever? [Re: NetDiver]
#19220486 - 12/03/13 02:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've always considered that one of the most perfectly written songs of all time.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Most philosophical rock song ever? [Re: Icelander]
#19220856 - 12/03/13 06:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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A masterpiece. All with two chords.
Reminds me of why I never get involved in those greatest guitarist threads.
-------------------- "The Rolling Stones will break up over Brian Jones' dead body" John Lennon I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either. The worst thing about corruption is that it works so well,
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Re: Most philosophical rock song ever? [Re: Brian Jones]
#19220912 - 12/03/13 07:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't listen to anything else from them however. That song is on the soundtrack to the Doors Movie and it fits absolutely perfectly.
Actually Lou Reed just died. I liked a lot of his solo work.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Most philosophical rock song ever? [Re: NetDiver]
#19220917 - 12/03/13 07:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You don't always get what you waaaaant...
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bootster

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I would put John Prine's "Sam Stone" up there in the list.
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Re: Most philosophical rock song ever? [Re: NetDiver]
#19222201 - 12/03/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Samurai Drifter said: Okay, well I don't know if I'd actually say it's the most philosophical, per se, but I don't ever think I've seen or heard anything else which describes so well the mindset of an opiate addict, and, more than that, of somebody just totally fed up with living a modern, urbanized life. I mean, look at the world in which we currently live, where every year on Black Friday a few people kill each other to get better deals on merchandise, where two-faced politicians and purveyors of religious nonsense are always able to find a willing ear, a shout of allegiance, or a financial handout; where slaughter is committed on a massive scale and justified with hollow appeals to patriotism and justice. And then, for some of us, comes that realization that you're no better than the rest, that you're ultimately part of the very same crowd that put those people in power.
Who hasn't felt the temptation to take a permanent vacation from caring and concern?
Anyway, discuss, or just listen to this awesome song by the Velvet Underground.
I don't know just where I'm going But I'm gonna try for the kingdom, if I can 'Cause it makes me feel like I'm a man When I put a spike into my vein And I'll tell ya, things aren't quite the same When I'm rushing on my run And I feel just like Jesus' son And I guess that I just don't know And I guess that I just don't know
I have made the big decision I'm gonna try to nullify my life 'Cause when the blood begins to flow When it shoots up the dropper's neck When I'm closing in on death And you can't help me now, you guys And all you girls with all your sweet talk You can all go take a walk And I guess that I just don't know And I guess that I just don't know
I wish that I was born a thousand years ago I wish that I'd sail the darkened seas On a great big clipper ship Going from this land here to that In a sailor's suit and cap Away from the big city Where a man can not be free Of all of the evils of this town And of himself, and those around Oh, and I guess that I just don't know Oh, and I guess that I just don't know
Heroin, be the death of me Heroin, it's my wife and it's my life Because a mainer to my vein Leads to a center in my head And then I'm better off and dead Because when the smack begins to flow I really don't care anymore About all the Jim-Jim's in this town And all the politicians makin' crazy sounds And everybody puttin' everybody else down And all the dead bodies piled up in mounds
'Cause when the smack begins to flow Then I really don't care anymore Ah, when the heroin is in my blood And that blood is in my head Then thank God that I'm as good as dead Then thank your God that I'm not aware And thank God that I just don't care And I guess I just don't know And I guess I just don't know
One of my favorite songs by 'em. Venus in Furs is great too.
Shiny, shiny, shiny boots of leather Whiplash girlchild in the dark Comes in bells, your servant, don't forsake him Strike, dear mistress, and cure his heart
Downy sins of streetlight fancies Chase the costumes she shall wear Ermine furs adorn the imperious Severin, Severin awaits you there
I am tired, I am weary I could sleep for a thousand years A thousand dreams that would awake me Different colors made of tears
Kiss the boot of shiny, shiny leather Shiny leather in the dark Tongue of thongs, the belt that does await you Strike, dear mistress, and cure his heart
Severin, Severin, speak so slightly Severin, down on your bended knee Taste the whip, in love not given lightly Taste the whip, now plead for me
I am tired, I am weary I could sleep for a thousand years A thousand dreams that would awake me Different colors made of tears
Shiny, shiny, shiny boots of leather Whiplash girlchild in the dark Severin, your servant comes in bells, please don't forsake him Strike, dear mistress, and cure his heart
Dunno if I'd call 'em the MOST philosophical songs ever, but they certainly convey some deep insights along with some killer melodies.
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Re: Most philosophical rock song ever? [Re: zoomfan]
#19222596 - 12/03/13 02:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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zoomfan said: i couldn't even finish it it was so bad...fuckin melodramatic pussy city kids trying too hard to be cool
"city kids"
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Re: Most philosophical rock song ever? [Re: NetDiver]
#19222611 - 12/03/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Most philosophical rock song ever? [Re: Repertoire89]
#19222628 - 12/03/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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"All we are is ducks in the wind." ~ Can's Ass
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Quote:
OrgoneConclusion said:

"All we are is ducks in the wind." ~ Can's Ass
"And thou shalt offer thy burnt offerings, the flesh and the blood, upon the altar of the LORD thy God: and the blood of thy sacrifices shall be poured out upon the altar of the LORD thy God, and thou shalt eat the flesh. " ~ Carl Sagan
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I don't know about the most but this one is right up there:
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Re: Most philosophical rock song ever? [Re: teknix]
#19222719 - 12/03/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Kansas has a lot of philosophical songs:
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Re: Most philosophical rock song ever? [Re: bootster]
#19235187 - 12/06/13 04:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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bootster said: I would put John Prine's "Sam Stone" up there in the list.
Sam Stone and "Hello in There"
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Re: Most philosophical rock song ever? [Re: NetDiver]
#19235215 - 12/06/13 05:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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this one time when i completely understood stairway to heaven word for word
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Re: Most philosophical rock song ever? [Re: quinn]
#19235303 - 12/06/13 06:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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quinn said: this one time when i completely understood stairway to heaven word for word 
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