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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: Violet]
    #19399300 - 01/10/14 01:58 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

can't we all just say "good job on your tub and casings":frown:, it's his first time with violets method, my first mono was a sad fucking sight so was my my first set of cakes and every other tek i tried


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: cronicr]
    #19399318 - 01/10/14 02:02 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Yeah he sure did a great job on the mono.

By the way, most of my first goes with my current method were also pretty lame, even with what I thought were my best cultures from bulk clones.


I have done LOTS of bulk substrates.  And I have impressive-looking 1st flush photos to show for it.




Great second flushes too
First: Second:


But I'm not so foolish as to be thrown off of the matter of "total yield" and "yield quality" by fancy impressive photos.  My storage bags simply filled more with fruits from watered grains.  And the word comes back that they're usually stronger too.


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: cronicr]
    #19399334 - 01/10/14 02:06 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

peeps dont stop to think,
that 9-12 of those equal the surface area of a decent bulk container.
24 , rivals some of the biggest tubs for surface area.

i know this , cuz my largest FC's are 55 gal.

so its not a game of millions of containers.
done right its a 12-24-36 thing, with 5 flushes.
in a surface area, energy used, and sub wieght , VS power wieght out. no comparison.
keep in mind , WBR has some of the highest recorded values.:thumbup:
( i use fert WBR often, and sometimes fert RGS , and sometimes combo, i suspect they are all similar in power values)

as said before, almost all v tekkers, did something  bulk before.
we sorta know the difference first hand.

amazing pics violet.


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: anne halonium]
    #19399522 - 01/10/14 02:48 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

i guess not:rolleyes:


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: cronicr]
    #19399591 - 01/10/14 03:02 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

i suspect peeps will grow bulks for some time still,
no matter whats on this thread.
facts sway no one , and we all know science is opinion.

but, i also suspect the days of bulk tyranny ,
are coming to a close .fast.

and in the new age, urban growers, with VHO V-teks, will rise.


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: anne halonium]
    #19399690 - 01/10/14 03:30 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

i'm glad you carry faith


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: cronicr]
    #19399735 - 01/10/14 03:39 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

peeps love to quote me, so qoute my words on faith.

"i have absolute faith , the age of bulk tyranny is over."


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: cronicr]
    #19399770 - 01/10/14 03:45 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

:popcorn:

Just going to eat my popcorn and be entertained.

I'd like to see some more side by side PP5 vs monotub grows, its fun.

I've got some new isolates to test out, I might try doing one.  Need to get my GH setup again though.  Its nice that I don't need to modify the containers so I can use them as kitchen tupperware when I'm done.


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: CMOS]
    #19400164 - 01/10/14 04:53 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

:popcorn:

Yeah.  Returned to my tried and true methods but this is mildly entertaining.

Potency?  You want potency?  Try this...:thumbup:

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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: cronicr]
    #19400349 - 01/10/14 05:31 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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looked at the pics and skipped the rest, fuck it all pasty NICE FUCKING GROW BRO! well doc'd too. keep up the good work



:whathesaid: I'm quite interested in this grow but all the other bullshit in this thread is painful to reed.

Why cant everyone just grow the way that works for them and let others do the same.


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: cronicr]
    #19400637 - 01/10/14 06:50 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

I am fucking bushed, crazy day at work. Nonetheless, before I go crash for a couple hours, it is time for a quick bump.

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can't we all just say "good job on your tub and casings"




Thanks cron :thumbup: lets not get carried away tho, I did fuck up, and I have a theory how, just not something that has really been address thus far. I will say that it has something to do with my mediocre culture.

First things first, my "mid level skill" mono is pretty much ready for harvest. Gonna wait till after a quick snooze tho, don't wanna harvest any fingers :lol:



Not the best results, I know. Certainly do not compare to Violets mono pics that she was gracious enough to post. Honestly I'm not sure why she didn't run a log like this months ago to dispel any doubts about the validity of her claims :shrug: Then it wouldn't fall to noobs like me to try and muddle our way through without the benefit of proper lab skills, or decent cultures. Still all that being said, I'm still gonna eat them fruits :thumbup:

Harvested the pathetic little cup last night. Came out to 17 grams wet. Piss poor. Came home and found a few more in need of some harvest. Not as sad as the first one, but nothing great either.



I started to stare at them intently and some theorys came to my exhausted brain. Have a look at these and we shall see if anyone else see's what I see when I look at my mediocre culture.

The one I harvested last night



One that is just coming in



I will be back after a short nap :super:


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19400652 - 01/10/14 06:56 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Beautiful mono pastey. Eat some of them yummy mushrooms. You've earned it you deck stacking mofo :rofl:


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #19400709 - 01/10/14 07:10 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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can't we all just say "good job on your tub and casings":(, it's his first time with violets method, my first mono was a sad fucking sight so was my my first set of cakes and every other tek i tried




You're right I'm sorry... Pasty keep up the good work and thank you for doing this for all of us.
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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: magickspore]
    #19400915 - 01/10/14 08:01 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

:kaneclap:

bravo bravo on the tub fantastic


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19400947 - 01/10/14 08:10 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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:noob: dood the oven tek kicks ASS! I did run the side by side, I just can't post any pics. See it contamed on me but that's cause I lack the necessary lab skills to sterilize in my oven :lol:




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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19401026 - 01/10/14 08:31 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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Not the best results, I know. Certainly do not compare to Violets mono pics that she was gracious enough to post.



Are you kidding?! Your mono is Lovely! It's extremely nice.  Good job on that.  Definitely like mine that I posted.

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This is also looking pretty good.  Let's hope for low abort rate, rite?


You keep saying "mediocre culture" but who said your culture is mediocre? I sure didn't. Anne sure didn't. I think you DREW that yourself based on a quote of mine about people's varied results not meaning that my results are impossible.
What I was saying is that different proclivities could cause your culture to seem quite strong on bulk but not make the most of these cakes. I've specifically detailed and/or linked to descriptions of such possible manifestations.  Remember I was only saying it's a possibility that needs to be considered when troubleshooting.  Since it's pinning pretty well on the above cake, perhaps it can do better than it has so far, so maybe some other factors should be considered such as Consolidation time.


In fact, that's another relative thing to consider... it is known to be potentially detrimental to allow "spawn" to consolidate, and doesn't seem to have muchplay for bulks in general, but is Most Definitely GREAT if not REQUIRED thing for 'cakes' to consolidate.
Laziness/business has negative side effects for bulk teks but positive effects for my grow tech.


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: teknix]
    #19401038 - 01/10/14 08:33 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

im absolutely convinced.

that the OP can pull off a tub,
and that violet has mastered the skills for the v tek.
its decisive indeed.

um , you will note the number of flushes on the v tek also?


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: teknix]
    #19401063 - 01/10/14 08:38 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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:noob: dood the oven tek kicks ASS! I did run the side by side, I just can't post any pics. See it contamed on me but that's cause I lack the necessary lab skills to sterilize in my oven :lol:




Yeah, sure it did.




You've been blowing up my inbox all day, and I suspect other people's too. Pasty posted that like 3 pages back man.

do you spend all day keeping track of the people that discredit your oven tek? It didn't ever start of as a personal thing, most of us really wanted you to learn something and also protect noobs from bad techniques and habits, but you're relentless. Show us some stuff and be a contributing member of the shroomery helping some new people grow some shrooms and quit trying to start shit or troll or whatever it is.

U jelly we help people advance and further the techniques involved with growing mushrooms? There's some pretty easy guidelines that will ensure anyone with a worthwhile idea can have it seen, or is it that your TEK can't pass any tests but here let me give you this wall of text rambling to keep it going.


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: anne halonium]
    #19401072 - 01/10/14 08:40 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

the oven tek........:rolleyes:

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im absolutely convinced.

that the OP can pull off a tub,
and that violet has mastered the skills for the v tek.
its decisive indeed.

um , you will note the number of flushes on the v tek also?



typical shit for you


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: cronicr]
    #19401081 - 01/10/14 08:42 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

and yet, thats the way it is........

:cookiemonster:

from what ive seen violet mastered V tek ,OP mastered bulk.
surface area considered, and total time , energy and sub weights, and multi flushes of v tek,.......... seems pretty clear.


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