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harrier143
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A. muscaria???
#19219448 - 12/02/13 09:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well with the research I've done I'm pretty sure this is Amanita muscaria but would like some positive IDs before I fry this baby up with some garlic butter hahah. Found in Squamish British Columbia, Canada. Picture should say it all hopefully.
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Chuck H
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Looks right to me. But wait for a TI and some more opinions.
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Hashfinger
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Re: A. muscaria??? [Re: Chuck H]
#19219600 - 12/02/13 09:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pretty sure they are Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata. You could confirm this if you notice that the warts are yellowish on young specimen.
-------------------- Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus (Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus
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jet li
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Re: A. muscaria??? [Re: Chuck H]
#19219610 - 12/02/13 09:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes. But hesitant to only say yes, because the pileus of that baby, albeit A. muscaria, has features of other Amanita, so always good to check for ID, and like you did very well... show the base. We can see obvious concentric rings (shag) at the base.
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harrier143
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Re: A. muscaria??? [Re: jet li]
#19224298 - 12/03/13 08:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Is the concentric shag at the base not a sure sign? Heres a shot of some found within a two foot radius of the smaller one. Also these were found in late September and I heard it was better to harvest early summer.
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jet li
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Yeah the concentric rings at the base are a must for macroscopic IDing atypical A. muscaria like the ones you have there.
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suchen
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Re: A. muscaria??? [Re: jet li]
#19231714 - 12/05/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The shaggy rings at the stem base can be present in Amanita that are not A. muscaria, but not very often, and usually only in species closely related to the fly agaric. Cap and wart color alone are not always good indicators for which "variation" you have. Are you hunting in a pine plantation? Or natural woodlands? It's likely you found Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata, but in a pine plantation Amanita muscaria is a possibility.
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harrier143
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Re: A. muscaria??? [Re: suchen]
#19234735 - 12/06/13 12:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Found in natural woodlands in western british columbia
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suchen
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var. flavivolvata
-------------------- Rod Tulloss said: The bulb is the bulb. The volva is the volva. They have a very long term realtionship, but they’re “just friends.”
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Hashfinger
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Re: A. muscaria??? [Re: suchen]
#19237135 - 12/06/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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suchen said:
var. flavivolvata
-------------------- Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus (Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus
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WhoManBeing
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good find. been pinching the dried bag of the ones found near the house with very pleasant times.
if towards the later of the evening and catching an early bedtime, the morning wake full of bizarre happenings.
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suchen
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var. flavivolvata

Nicely done . Just remember that yellow warts can occur in any variety, if only infrequently
-------------------- Rod Tulloss said: The bulb is the bulb. The volva is the volva. They have a very long term realtionship, but they’re “just friends.”
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Hashfinger
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Re: A. muscaria??? [Re: suchen]
#19237454 - 12/06/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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suchen said:
var. flavivolvata

Nicely done . Just remember that yellow warts can occur in any variety, if only infrequently 
I really think the "slight yellowing" of the warts on young caps isn't really a yellow coloring, but just the overall cast of the tissues when they are that compact and young (i.e. before they expand with the cap). These are some Amanita muscaria var. persicina buttons, and you can see the yellowish cast I refer to. I assure you there is no yellow color to the warts as that tissue expands. Might be an interesting ID characteristic is some varieties how long the tissue holds together and reflects that color.
-------------------- Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus (Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus
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suchen
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The yellow pigment may also degrade in sunlight.
-------------------- Rod Tulloss said: The bulb is the bulb. The volva is the volva. They have a very long term realtionship, but they’re “just friends.”
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Hashfinger
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Re: A. muscaria??? [Re: suchen]
#19237591 - 12/06/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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suchen said: The yellow pigment may also degrade in sunlight.
-------------------- Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus (Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus
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