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Re: Weed is the reason 90% of people here have anxiety [Re: mylfgur] * 1
    #19223114 - 12/03/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

There is absolutely no doubt that cannabis can exacerbate and even cause anxiety in some people. I've seen it many times. People miscalculate their dose...you don't need much to get high. There is a sweet spot from person to person as far as dose goes and if you go above that sweet spot you will experience some negative side effects.

I've always been an anxious person. Years and years before I ever tried cannabis. In my experience cannabis has not helped or hurt my anxiety.

If I vape a bowl when I'm anxious, then I'll be more anxious. If I vape a bowl when I'm relaxed, I'll be more relaxed. Cannabis just enhances your existing emotions IMO

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Re: Weed is the reason 90% of people here have anxiety [Re: thilfee]
    #19223632 - 12/03/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

thilfee said:
http://www.dirkhanson.org/neuroaddiction.html

interesting

and this:

http://www.kaiserfoundation.ca/how-to-get-your-mind-right-again-after-using-marijuana/





for quick results; stop being stupid and stop smoking pot like a rabid monkey who's trapped in a cage.

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Re: Weed is the reason 90% of people here have anxiety [Re: Epigallo]
    #19223658 - 12/03/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

bradley said:
Quote:

Shroomism said:
How about this, weed affects different people differently.

My GF, doesn't smoke because it gives her anxiety

Me, it has the exact opposite effect

Science in action

:cookiemonster:




So? Smoking cigarettes doesn't give everyone lung cancer, but it's not something to ignore. I don't understand why everyone who loves pot is getting so defensive over the statement that weed causes anxiety. Clearly, it is a prevalent side effect. In fact, to ignore it, making wild statements like that weed is 1,000 times less likely to cause anxiety than psychedelics like mushrooms, is pretty harmful in my opinion. Maybe you have different anecdotal experiences, but that isn't science. Here's mention of a couple studies to pound the nail in the coffin of that argument:

Marijuana tends to cause anxiety:

"Anxiety. Although many recreational users say that smoking marijuana calms them down, for others it has the opposite effect. In fact, the most commonly reported side effects of smoking marijuana are intense anxiety and panic attacks. Studies report that about 20% to 30% of recreational users experience such problems after smoking marijuana. The people most vulnerable are those who have never used marijuana before."

http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletters/Harvard_Mental_Health_Letter/2010/April/medical-marijuana-and-the-mind

Mushrooms tend to help anxiety:

In 2011, a study published in the Archives of General Psychiatry by researchers from UCLA and elsewhere found that low doses of psilocybin improved the moods and reduced the anxiety of 12 late-stage terminal cancer patients over a long period. These were patients aged 36 to 58 who suffered from depression and had failed to respond to conventional medications.

Each patient was given either a pure dose of psilocybin or a placebo, and asked to report their levels of depression and anxiety several times over the next few months. Those who’d been dosed with psilocybin had lower anxiety levels at one and three months, and reduced levels of depression starting two weeks after treatment and continuing for a full six months, the entire period covered by the study. Additionally, carefully administering low doses and controlling the environment prevented any participants from having a negative experience while under the influence (colloquially, a “bad trip.”)"

http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2013/06/could-magic-mushrooms-be-used-to-treat-anxiety-and-depression/



:lmafo: ok, we all affirm that Pot can cause anxiety (like any other drugs because it's a drug... changing your general state of consciousness, we're so dumb we don't understand this, hence the anxiety... oop i can feel it coming on right now! :uhoh: ) pot causing anxiety can especially effect those who haven't done Marijuana before and those who are susceptible to anxiety.

ok, so now can we get to the point, that it doesn't effect everyone liek that, and we don't need peolpe preaching to people who don't have these effects, that they should watch out for these effects? can we now? please? i just covered all your ground... what you're trying to "cover" here... so now, can we get to the point of people NOT having negative side effects? that seems to be more of an interesting notion then people having anxiety from "A DRUG".

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Re: Weed is the reason 90% of people here have anxiety [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19223682 - 12/03/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

My anxiety is not linked to weed.

Occasionally if I'm in the wrong setting, it will cause anxiety - very occasionally. But my anxiety is personally linked to actual events/situations.

I've had similar issues since I was 9, it's just how I tend to respond to any kind of trauma :shrug:.

I will say that weed or being high in general never helped me cope with my anxiety in any way. The only thing that helped was time, and reducing/eliminating stressors that directly caused it.

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Re: Weed is the reason 90% of people here have anxiety [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19223827 - 12/03/13 07:33 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I couldn't care less if you smoke pot. It is the misinformation that I am making a stand against. He stated mushrooms are 1,000 times more likely to cause anxiety and psychosis than pot, which I provided direct evidence against. I already disproved his statement about psychosis - particularly his comment about schizophrenia - in the last thread.

I just knock em out, and I'm done.

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Re: Weed is the reason 90% of people here have anxiety [Re: Epigallo]
    #19223864 - 12/03/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

you realize people are making these ludicrous arguments because they keep having to defend their point of view against MORONS who keep saying how wrong they for "thinking that pot has no negative effects" when all they're ACTUALLY SAYING is that it's pointless to try and preach about the possible negative effects of Marijuana to Marijuana users THAT DON'T GET THOSE EFFECTS.

if you're gonna preach, preach to the people who solely blame a drug that by happenstance, they DON'T STOP USING, for all their problems.

not to the people who have no problems with using it, or whom use it infrequently... then we can all drop these shenanigans.

and stop trying to make comparisons between other psychedelic drugs, and Cannabis.

all drugs have side effects, all drugs can cause anxiety. ever try taking an OD of anti-anxiety pills, or Opiates...? guess what happens when you do that... you get anxious. (and you could possibly die)

so. next time, all of you peeps should just recogonize this plain fact about ingesting substances that mess around with your usual state of mind... it CAN MAKE YOU ANXIOUS. get over it.

PS: this is a general statement. not a personal one.

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Re: Weed is the reason 90% of people here have anxiety [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #19223932 - 12/03/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

There's a lot of backlash going both ways. The government demonizes it, then counter culture christens it a miracle drug, then some people say, wait, it's not perfect, and the quibbling never stops. :shrug:

I guess that's all we are doing here.

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Re: Weed is the reason 90% of people here have anxiety [Re: Epigallo]
    #19223965 - 12/03/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

yeah, i guess so. miracle drugs don't exist. unless someone sees someone trying to rant about "miracle drugs" no one should have a problem with any using or talking about the positive effects of Marijuana, without needing to preach about the negative side effects; unless of course someone is unable to recognize these facts; although one should take care, because just because someone else isn't acknowledging the negative side effects, doesn't mean they are unaware of them... unless the person is seemingly "unaware" of these effects, especially if they're in risk of being taken down a peg by Marijuana. ("omg i am so ready to quit, i need to! but just one more bowl!")

which is a rarity to say the least.

PS: again, not a personal conjecture, just a general one.

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Re: Weed is the reason 90% of people here have anxiety [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19224023 - 12/03/13 08:04 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

By the same token, shouldn't we be free to discuss negative effects without having a compulsion to preach positive effects? I guess there is nothing else to mention, and we aren't really making any progress by reiterating the positive and negative aspects. Like you said, it would be more useful to talk about ways to minimize any side effects - which I have to argue, aren't always apparent on the surface.

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Re: Weed is the reason 90% of people here have anxiety [Re: Epigallo]
    #19224494 - 12/03/13 09:45 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

well, no one should have to TELL YOU if YOU'RE feeling bad, right?

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Re: Weed is the reason 90% of people here have anxiety [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19224525 - 12/03/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Nor good. I'm bored with this conversation. I think we've established everything.

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Re: Weed is the reason 90% of people here have anxiety [Re: Epigallo]
    #19224627 - 12/03/13 10:12 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

thank God.

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Re: Weed is the reason 90% of people here have anxiety [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19224916 - 12/03/13 11:21 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I believe marijuana when vaporized or used in edibles can legitimately be called a miracle drug, for the treatment of loneliness, pain, nausea, anorexia, depression and cancer treatment. When you consider that marijuana is just one of aspect of a plant (hemp) that is a miracle substance capable of replacing lumber for paper, be used to make superior concrete, clothes etc, and is one of the worlds most nutritious foods, weed is a miracle. Especially considered is amazing safety profile.


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