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pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix)
    #19218033 - 12/02/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Can you cut this out, use the fruits, or is it all garbage?




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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19218042 - 12/02/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19218052 - 12/02/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

sorry bro. TRUST ME when i say throw it all away right now.

you can keep any pins, but get that shit outside


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19218054 - 12/02/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sorry for your loss.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: live2fry]
    #19218062 - 12/02/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

fruits are good but the tub is toast.
it's recommended NOT to cut out a piece because it doesn't work and will screw up your entire grow space/house.

you can move the tub outside if the weather is ok,
i wouldn't keep that shit inside anymore anyway.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: spacechildo]
    #19218071 - 12/02/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It's outside!  I dont wanna risk it fuckin with my others.

Could those fruits be poisonous though.  A buddy told me the toxins travel through the mycellial network even though its not in that area of the cake


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19218076 - 12/02/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yea toss it. i normally would say fruit it elsewhere and let it finish its course, but those fruits look spent anyway.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19218083 - 12/02/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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It's outside!  I dont wanna risk it fuckin with my others.

Could those fruits be poisonous though.  A buddy told me the toxins travel through the mycellial network even though its not in that area of the cake



hmmm, I don't think thats true but maybe you should do some research on your own since i don't know for sure.

you should be fine though.

I tried to cut the green out once and it only got worse :nonono:


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix] * 1
    #19218084 - 12/02/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Nothing wrong with those fruits. Fungi grow together all the time in nature.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: fractaldill]
    #19218135 - 12/02/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

fruits are all good, RR commented some on this a couple weeks back.
They don't send poison to the shroom, I think radiation might be the only exception. (stamet + fukushima)

Eat em if/when they stop growing.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: spacechildo]
    #19218552 - 12/02/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I've heard that heavy metals can get absorbed through the substrate into the shroom.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: bootster]
    #19218626 - 12/02/13 06:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

They can be, which is actually the mechanism by which Stamets proposed cleaning up Fukushima.  Personally I think it's a pretty fucktarded idea and that he's just trying to make a buck on it. 

Either way, there are no heavy metals in trichoderma.  Save the pins if you think they're worth saving, and bury the sub if you live somewhere where it's still warm.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Psilicon]
    #19218739 - 12/02/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

ive always heard trich is just about everywhere.  always wondered why it would be such a big deal to let a tub finish out a flush, especially if its got pins that are still growing, when it has a lil patch of trich.  especially, if you werent opening it.  wouldnt it be kinda hard for the trich to get through the polyfil?

ive had trich before on previous tubs in rooms that ive spawned in after the fact.  never had an issue before second flush from pasteurized substrate since then.  Knock on wood!


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19218851 - 12/02/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

By no means am I very experienced but my first tub did this same thing about the time pins formed I saw a small green spot but I didn't have have any other tubs going so I didn't have anything to worry about.

I let my tub finish of course the trich grew along with my cubes any way the mushrooms still grew big and healthy and weren't "bad" I ended up getting 6 dry oz from the tub.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: firstTimer213]
    #19218932 - 12/02/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

have you had any tubs since in the same grow area? 

if so, did you by chance spawn them in that area?

was your first tub coir verm gypsum?

if so, did you pasteurize it?


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19219004 - 12/02/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Not recommending it but I have successfully cut out a small patch of green and got two large flushes out of the tub before it came back. Didn't even remove it from my grow room. This was over a month ago and so far my other tubs are fine and are all on multiple flushes.

In fact the tub I'm talking about is the photo on the far right of my sig...if you look closely on the right of the pic you can see the crater I cut out. The green showed up right as the pins started to form.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19219246 - 12/02/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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ive always heard trich is just about everywhere.  always wondered why it would be such a big deal to let a tub finish out a flush, especially if its got pins that are still growing, when it has a lil patch of trich.  especially, if you werent opening it.  wouldnt it be kinda hard for the trich to get through the polyfil?

ive had trich before on previous tubs in rooms that ive spawned in after the fact.  never had an issue before second flush from pasteurized substrate since then.  Knock on wood!




The problem with leaving trich is that its jizzin spores all over your house thus increasing your spore load exponentially. Also the loose polyfil in your top holes ain't even gonna slow dem spores down.

Personally I have no problem with opening up a tub with a small spot of trich to get the mushies before dumping the sub, but you don't want to leave that shit blasting spores all over the place for days. Trich will overtake the sub fast and be dumping spores by the billions. Just ain't doing your future grows any favors at that point. Its not really the pasteurized sub your worried about with a high spore load in your house, I'd be more concerned about one or two working through the filters in my spawn jars.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19220989 - 12/03/13 07:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

thanks for all the great information!

I've got it in my garage (which is far from my other tubs)probably just going to cut it out and see what happens as long as the fruits are ok wtf does it matter ya kno something is better than nothing


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19221090 - 12/03/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Not for me :p. but then again i dont eat them (or sell). Any sign of contamination and ill immediately throw it out.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19221305 - 12/03/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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wouldnt it be kinda hard for the trich to get through the polyfil?




Not at all. At least when it's loose like it would be in a tub. The spores can also escape around the lid, especial when it's open.

You can cover a patch of Trich and the area around it with a thick layer of salt until you finish the flush. I wouldn't even bother if you have the option of fruiting it outdoors, if the tub hasn't started pinning yet, or if you have many other substrates fruiting nearby. It's also best to do it as soon as you first see the mold, and before it starts sporulating (which is when you see the green spores) when possible.

It's just a temporary solution to slow it's growth and prevent the spores from going airborne.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Kizzle]
    #19221360 - 12/03/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

if you see trich.
you have already released 10k  trich spores into your grow.
if you debate it, youve released 100K.


methods i use, trich is rarely seen.
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19221370 - 12/03/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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have you had any tubs since in the same grow area? 

if so, did you by chance spawn them in that area?

was your first tub coir verm gypsum?

if so, did you pasteurize it?




I have Just got done doing 5 monos.

Yes it was coir verm and gypsum.

I do Frank's past. Tek

I didn't use the same area I changed locations to a different floor of the home but I can say this 2 tubs went south but I did end up getting 3 flushes before tossing them. Also they didn't contam Just got rid of them to make room for fresh tubs.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: firstTimer213]
    #19221406 - 12/03/13 10:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
    #19221592 - 12/03/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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if you see trich.
you have already released 10k  trich spores into your grow.
if you debate it, youve released 100K.


methods i use, trich is rarely seen.
there is no cure, only avoidance.



Not true. Chances are he saw it before it had produced any spores, he just didn't recognize it was Trich because it was still pure white. Most experiences cultivators would have recognized it even before it turned green and hopefully he will now. Rather then waiting for it produce spores you can salt it. It's not a cure by any means, just a method to prevent the production and release of spores while you finish your flush and get it out there.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: firstTimer213]
    #19221732 - 12/03/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Did you say you got 3 flushes before the trich showed up?

That's pretty good.

If you are using coir and you get molds before the first flush, the culprit is a bad spawn jar or culture.

Also, you have tons of mold spores flying all over your house anyways. Having some green substrate is not going to ruin your ability to grow. I've totally blown up my place with trich before (24 tubs at once) and I still get by. It just means you'll have to be a little more precise with your sterile work is all.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19221918 - 12/03/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I've totally blown up my place with trich before (24 tubs at once).




if i had several sq meters of trich.
id  re-evaluate, my entire grow style, methods, and lab cleanliness.

i rarely see trich.
but then again, i use different methods, and a higher standard of cleanliness.

contrary to popular belief, all grows do not end in trich.

if standards are low in one grow,
how is it improved in the next identical grow?
especially if the place is trich coated from the first grow!



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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
    #19222065 - 12/03/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I've never bought into the idea of permanently destroying your ability to grow in a location. People are quick to use ambient spore counts as an excuse for why their grows keep ending in mold without considering other possibilities. With adequate ventilation the air returns to outdoor levels relatively quickly once the mold source has been removed. Albeit outdoor levels are usually significantly higher than normal indoor levels.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
    #19222239 - 12/03/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

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I've totally blown up my place with trich before (24 tubs at once).




if i had several sq meters of trich.
id  re-evaluate, my entire grow style, methods, and lab cleanliness.

i rarely see trich.
but then again, i use different methods, and a higher standard of cleanliness.

contrary to popular belief, all grows do not end in trich.

if standards are low in one grow,
how is it improved in the next identical grow?
especially if the place is trich coated from the first grow!



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That really isn't the point of the thread. There is no sense in attacking frank for openly admitting he screwed up several monotubs. He's clearly doing something right, I mean he is a tc and he has done a lot for our hobby whether you like it or not. You on the other hand I have only seen starting shit with people who have a lot more status on here than you do.

Back on topic, in my earlier days of growing, I was very attached to my first large monotub to the point that I waited for it to be a green, disgusting mess. I almost puked when I opened the lid to dump it out. Lol. I've learned a lot sense then and I would never make that same mistake, and even though that tub probably had more trich than cubensis mycelium, I still have grown several horse poop monotubs in that same exact spot with no problems.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19222399 - 12/03/13 02:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19222483 - 12/03/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

A little trich ain't gonna hurt nothing. I like to run my tubs till there done, which means trich will usually show up by the 6th or 7th flush. I don't let it sit there and fester if course, but a few patches of green are no reason to paint the room or tear up the carpets. Just my opinion of course. Shit just walking outside for an hour pretty much ensures your gonna have a whole trichload of spores all over you when you come back in.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19222496 - 12/03/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Just my opinion of course.




Your opinion is backed by enough evidence that I think you can omit the safety clause :wink:


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19222610 - 12/03/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't mean to sound dumb but when I try to find out about trichoderma in the search engine I can't really find anything. What is trich and how does it get on cakes/substrate?


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19222841 - 12/03/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I've never bought into the idea of permanently destroying your ability to grow in a location. People are quick to use ambient spore counts as an excuse for why their grows keep ending in mold without considering other possibilities. With adequate ventilation the air returns to outdoor levels relatively quickly once the mold source has been removed. Albeit outdoor levels are usually significantly higher than normal indoor levels.



this is what I wanted to hear.

Quote:

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I've totally blown up my place with trich before (24 tubs at once) and I still get by.



as is this.  I've always wondered when people talk about contams ruining a room/house...


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: happygolucky]
    #19222870 - 12/03/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't mean to sound dumb but when I try to find out about trichoderma in the search engine I can't really find anything. What is trich and how does it get on cakes/substrate?



It's the scientific name for green mold which likes to take healthy mushroom mycelium's place in your growing media and ruin your grows. It is the pure essence of evil.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19223273 - 12/03/13 05:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Did you say you got 3 flushes before the trich showed up?

That's pretty good.

If you are using coir and you get molds before the first flush, the culprit is a bad spawn jar or culture.

Also, you have tons of mold spores flying all over your house anyways. Having some green substrate is not going to ruin your ability to grow. I've totally blown up my place with trich before (24 tubs at once) and I still get by. It just means you'll have to be a little more precise with your sterile work is all.




No Sorry I should have wrote it out better 2 of 5 tubs got Reich and the other 3 I got 3 flushes out of before tossing due to space.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: firstTimer213]
    #19223364 - 12/03/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So does an infection like this happen in the jars before bulk spawn, after, or is there no way to really know?


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19223394 - 12/03/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Usually trich before or soon after the first flush is attributed to bad spawn or improper pasteurization, tho IMO the pasteurization angle only applies if using a sub other than simple coir verm. I'm pretty confident that bad spawn is responsible for most first flush contams.

Eventually as the mycelium network ages and flushes it will weaken at which point trich can take hold. In this case its usually after the third flushe.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19223458 - 12/03/13 06:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm fairly confident that it was a problem with a jar or two.  Thanks for confirming that. 

This was my first tub so I didn't expect it to work out


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19223498 - 12/03/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah. I never really bought in to the "ruin my grow space" scenario either. It just don't add up. I mean, are these extra spores lurking around waiting for you to spawn so they can attack? After all, your grow room should be getting fresh air which balances it all out.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19223512 - 12/03/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It could very well have been your pasteurization methods also. What did you use for substrate and how did you pasteurize?


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19225672 - 12/04/13 08:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I used coco and verm.  I used Frank's pasteurization technique but I had to go to work half way through and let my brother watch it and the temps got to 180...

so learned my lesson to not trust anyone else to be as smart as you lol

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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19225723 - 12/04/13 08:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Someone just used sterilized coir as a substrate so I really don't think that's your problem. Coir really does no contaminate that easy even with the worst of pasteurization attempts. I would agree that you had bad spawn. Next time smell the jars before you spawn them.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19225736 - 12/04/13 08:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I smelled em but being a newb I really don't know what I'm smelling for.  I know what fresh myc smells like but they all smelled the same to me so idn.

Just gonna be a bit more careful on the next run.  I think I didn't let the grains dry enough before loading the jars cuz there were small spots on a couple jars that were wet and un colonized.  BEFORE you tell me wtf why did you use jars that weren't fully col, they were all like that and I just wanted to see what would happen and now I did with this important learning experience


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19225739 - 12/04/13 08:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

ALSO thank you all for your constructive criticism and especially FRANK for teaching me your ways!  I followed your tek's to the T on the tub I have going good now and its beautiful


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19225740 - 12/04/13 08:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Someone just used sterilized coir as a substrate so I really don't think that's your problem. Coir really does no contaminate that easy even with the worst of pasteurization attempts. I would agree that you had bad spawn. Next time smell the jars before you spawn them.




disagree, this is why the bucket tek fails alot of the time sterilized substrate will fail ALOT


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: twistedty]
    #19225829 - 12/04/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

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Someone just used sterilized coir as a substrate so I really don't think that's your problem. Coir really does no contaminate that easy even with the worst of pasteurization attempts. I would agree that you had bad spawn. Next time smell the jars before you spawn them.




disagree, this is why the bucket tek fails alot of the time sterilized substrate will fail ALOT



http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19178683/page/1

I am not on board 100% with this (I do find it plausable), but Coir has been a huge hotspot of debate across forums everywhere.

I believe that I have read RR mention that the process of pasteurizing breaks down the coir and makes it easier to utilize by the mycelium. 

There are plenty of first hand experiences with coir not contaminating for months while sitting out in open air/having reptile urine/stool all over it.

There needs to be more research (I.e. I will be trying this)...With me attempting to be the laziest person in the world, If I could simply sterilize and not babysit the timer/thermometer it would be excellent.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #19225887 - 12/04/13 09:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Unlike sterilization, pasteurization is not intended to kill all micro-organisms in the food


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19225977 - 12/04/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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"ruin my grow space" scenario 

your grow room should be getting fresh air which balances it all out.





silly me, i thought.
all modern labs simply open the windows ,
when they have an overwhelming contam break outs.
and then they balance out........

the labs that work with agricultural pathogens, have all their facilities designed with extra windows for this,
drive by one any afternoon, and youll see the lab techs hanging out the windows, smoking, masks on top of their heads.

:lolsy:


its magical thinking.
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
    #19226044 - 12/04/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah it'd be utterly ridiculous for a lab to have some form of ventilation.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Kizzle]
    #19226084 - 12/04/13 10:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

dude stays talkin shit


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19226086 - 12/04/13 10:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

you can have a conversation without being a dick about it jes sayin...


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Kizzle]
    #19226449 - 12/04/13 12:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Yeah it'd be utterly ridiculous for a lab to have some form of ventilation.




you mean........

Yeah it'd be utterly ridiculous for a lab,
to have the SAME form of ventilation as you guys do.

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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #19226509 - 12/04/13 12:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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There needs to be more research (I.e. I will be trying this)...With me attempting to be the laziest person in the world, If I could simply sterilize and not babysit the timer/thermometer it would be excellent.




Then why don't you give it a shot? :shrug:

Sterile coir works fine.

If you want to play it safe (I do) then pasteurize it anyhow.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19227331 - 12/04/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

An electronic kitchen thermometer with a digital meter and alarm on it does wonders for the pasteurization process.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: twistedty]
    #19227354 - 12/04/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

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Someone just used sterilized coir as a substrate so I really don't think that's your problem. Coir really does no contaminate that easy even with the worst of pasteurization attempts. I would agree that you had bad spawn. Next time smell the jars before you spawn them.




disagree, this is why the bucket tek fails alot of the time sterilized substrate will fail ALOT




It was my understanding that the bucket tek was, if done properly, a pasteurization method, not sterilization?


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: TheMustardTiger]
    #19227514 - 12/04/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: fractaldill]
    #19227563 - 12/04/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

you make shoddy , sound so below standard.

pastuerization, works when done right in clean areas.
problem is, alot of times it isnt done right, or in clean areas.

some growers, are just shoddy, no matter what the style.
shoddy growers, get shoddy results.

good grows, , good teks, good labs, dont end in trich.
dont let shoddy growers, trich ya into thinking its a standard.
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
    #19227578 - 12/04/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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you make shoddy , sounds so below standard.

pastuerization, works when done right in clean areas.
problem is, alot of times it isnt done right, or in clean areas.

some growers, are just shoddy, no matter what the style.
shoddy growers, get shoddy results.

good grows, , good teks, good labs, dont end in trich.




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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19227625 - 12/04/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

the idea im against bulks ,
or certain methods, is a contrivance of my least esteemed enemies.
their distortions are to deflect from their shoddy practice, by pitting me against a whole class of growers.
no one will rally to the aid of unsanitary lazy ,
and cheap hacks otherwise,
unless they make it about something its not.

reality,
im against filthy fast buck low effort,
wasteful energy, poorly educated hacks,
who often produce contaminated products,
and ignore bio safety basics.


^ and im proud to be attacked for it daily.

:rabble: :rabble::rabble:

any method peeps use thats workable ,
effective, sane, safe, and carried out properly is fine.

i did bulks all thru the 1980s, up to kiddie pool size.

all growers see contams.
even pros with best stuff, see contams.
a spot on a plate sometimes, is to be expected
maybe an odd jar goes bad......

24 tubs of trich, and grows routinely ending in trich,
and the cultivator ADMITS to filthy practice?
im sorry, but thats not a shroom cultivator.
thats a trich cultivator that lucks out growing shrooms.


bulkers, bulk up, do it right, and youll see little trich.
imitate the trichsters shoddy grows, and dont be surprised if your seeing green.



ironically, alot of what you guys call trich,
is actually aspergillus.........
oddly, standard good cleaning mostly gets rid of it.
so, its not just a magical thing that jinxes grows.
pro labs avoid it, and so do clean noobs.

exposure to large amounts of aspergillus,
would indicate youve exposed to heptacarcinogens.
wiki it.

one again,
annie stands for education , safety, clean ops, solid equip, and efficient power saving methods.

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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
    #19227929 - 12/04/13 05:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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pastuerization, works when done right




As far as i know, the bucket tek isnt proper pasteurization


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: fractaldill]
    #19227939 - 12/04/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It's not. Try it with hpoo and find out :lol:

It works with coir though, because coir doesn't germinate mold spores very readily.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: fractaldill]
    #19227969 - 12/04/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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the bucket tek isnt proper pasteurization



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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19228072 - 12/04/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yea ive had a few quarts of coir sitting in my closet for at least 3 weeks now. just smelled it and its clean. unpasteurized too, just hydrated.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19228361 - 12/04/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i just noticed you had a link to block annie in your sig frank, thats fucking funny


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19228689 - 12/04/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

anne halonium,
so powerful,
i can turn peeps into ostrich,
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
    #19230991 - 12/05/13 12:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

like I said before you may know what your talking about but NO ONE wants to hear it delivered the way you deliver it.  Don't be a dick, dick!


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19231014 - 12/05/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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i just noticed you had a link to block annie in your sig frank, thats fucking funny



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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Greendreams]
    #19231043 - 12/05/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sorry to hear that. 

Down here in the south it's warm and humid as fucking hell so my tubs colonize in about 5 days


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19231346 - 12/05/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I'm still relatively new to the hobby but I've had both cakes and tubs go green after a couple flushes and have left them to finish up their business, picked em then move them somewhere else (garage in summer... haven't rlly considered where now that its winter) to see if anything else comes up, which in most cases there's a meager side flush somewhere. Then I just toss them when things just look hopeless.

I've only ever rlly kept my grows in the same area and I've noticed zero difference in contam rates at all due to those other tubs being in here prior to or really even for new grows or grows that were still going on in the same room as the subject tub was.

I was under the impression, and please correct me if I'm wrong for looking at it like this, that just as 100% colonized grains are supposed to be fully contaminate resistant, so should a fully colonized bulk sup (under the premise that the grain was actually clean as well as sub going through a successful pasteurization).

As mentioned above, if a tub for example goes bad right after or even before a first flush this means to me that either the grain or sub wasn't actually clean. Had everything been clean and everything colonized completely a fresh tub, even with another tub in the same room with tric on it, should have no contamination issues due to that factor. I understand with each flush the colony weakens, allowing for more chance that a competitive mold will gain hold somewhere and colonize itself as well and that by having another tub with competitive mold growing on it will even more so increase the likenesses of this occurring but from what I can tell it seems like there's a relatively high amount of competitive spores floating around in open in general to where if this was going to happen and a sub had weakened enough in a particular area that it would happen anyway... with a bad tub in the room perhaps a bit sooner then later but again if it was going to happen anyway then that 1 or 2 days wouldn't make much a different to the grower in the long run anyway as it was downhill since before they even saw it.

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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Mosey3012]
    #19231698 - 12/05/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

There are certain steps in the process that must be done under aseptic conditions- cultures, grains, sterile media in general.

The fruiting room is not one of these steps :wink:

(though cleanliness certainly does not hurt. I clean my grow room regularly with a Kirby as well as washing the walls and what not)


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
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83 now


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19231785 - 12/05/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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There are certain steps in the process that must be done under aseptic conditions- cultures, grains, sterile media in general.

The fruiting room is not one of these steps :wink:

(though cleanliness certainly does not hurt. I clean my grow room regularly with a Kirby as well as washing the walls and what not)



For sure. I grow in a 10'x6' closet, only vacuum if I spill something, have never washed the walls, opened a tub a couple months ago with trich/extracted the trich, and I still get 2-5 flushes per tub.

All my sterile work is done with a SAB in a bathroom and I rarely get contams. A lot of people think its dumb to work in a bathroom, but its the easiest room in the house to sanitize and control air movement because most bathrooms are small. You can also turn your shower on hot for a few minutes and steam the room, causing everything in the air to fall.


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    #19231792 - 12/05/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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83 now




but none of consequence.....

shoomery is a great place.
thousands and thousands of good peeps,
and only 83 ostrich.

as flattering as this is and all,
this thread is really about trich,
and its filthy causes.
and  of course,
the type of peeps / grows , that have epic 24 trich tub gardens.

other than franks nod to a trich dusting kirby,
im the only one in this thread essentially advocating a clean grow.

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    #19231806 - 12/05/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm apparently not half as sterile as you are anne, and I rarely get contams. Not everyone can grow in a lab, fortunately cubes are fairly contam resistant and easy to grow if you just get a good technique down.


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I'm apparently not half as sterile as you are anne, and I rarely get contams. Not everyone can grow in a lab, fortunately cubes are fairly contam resistant and easy to grow if you just get a good technique down.




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    #19231854 - 12/05/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm apparently not half as sterile as you are anne, and I rarely get contams. Not everyone can grow in a lab, fortunately cubes are fairly contam resistant and easy to grow if you just get a good technique down.




everyone can achieve close to lab conditions at home.
many do.

ill pass on your take on contams and bio handling to the pros.
all the big labs can save time and money now,
as youve assured them, they can " wing it" and be fine.

all ya have to do is believe.:facepalm:

in the sane bio world, ya cant grow in filth , and claim skill
you can only claim luck.

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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium] * 2
    #19231867 - 12/05/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

one day she will realize that 90 percent of us are working out of our kitchen to sterilize and parking our sab in front of the tv in the living room so we can watch the big bang theory while we work:headbang3:


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
    #19231907 - 12/05/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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chaotic646 said:
I'm apparently not half as sterile as you are anne, and I rarely get contams. Not everyone can grow in a lab, fortunately cubes are fairly contam resistant and easy to grow if you just get a good technique down.




everyone can achieve close to lab conditions at home.
many do.

ill pass on your take on contams and bio handling to the pros.
all the big labs can save time and money now,
as youve assured them, they can " wing it" and be fine.

all ya have to do is believe.:facepalm:

in the sane bio world, ya cant grow in filth , and claim skill
you can only claim luck.

id love to see you guys in ANY bio class i had in college.
magic, doesnt fly there, like it does here.



Are you calling me a liar? Just trying to understand your point...I have no reason to lie, I'll start posting more pics of my grows once some more flushes are ready to harvest.

I don't care about "pros' or "big labs" or "bio classes"...I'm having success doing it my way, can efficiently grow WAY more than me and my friends could ever eat or get rid of, and after the initial cost of my supplies I can do it dirt cheap.

What you dont seem to be able to grasp is most people here don't care about that stuff either, they want it to be easy, cost-effective, and get big yields. The way Frank does it, I do it, and many others do it easily accomplishes all of those and with very little contam problems. Have a nice day!

EDIT: Here ya go...I know its not much, but these are the only 2 I have pinning right now. Not perfect isolates but close and potent as hell.






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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: bEelzeBosS]
    #19231989 - 12/05/13 04:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

my grow room has my fish tank in it!!!:rofl:  my "lab" where i do most of my sterile work (in my glovebox) is the bathroom next to it.  i'm in and out of my grow room all day my wife and kids are as well...  can't say i have to many problems...  :shrug: just sayin'


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: blueconfusion]
    #19232187 - 12/05/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

huh?

why would i call ya a liar chaotic?`
actually, admitting to a fly by night grow,
is rather honest.
i commend you actually for your honesty.:thumbup:

i even commend frank for his honesty on his filthy ops.

if everyone here , was honest,
we would  realize alot of peeps grow in substandard conditions.
hopefully, the community would look in the mirror at that point.

my thing is simple.
be clean, and prosper from it.

feel free to hate me for that stand.
:rabble::rabble::rabble:

contrary to popular belief,
i wish everyone best grows.
if i didnt, id tell ya to fire up the kirby and hope for the best.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
    #19232216 - 12/05/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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i even commend frank for his honesty on his filthy ops.





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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Kizzle]
    #19232229 - 12/05/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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anne halonium said:
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I've totally blown up my place with trich before (24 tubs at once).




if i had several sq meters of trich.
id  re-evaluate, my entire grow style, methods, and lab cleanliness.






if this is commending someone ill take a raincheck


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: fractaldill]
    #19232231 - 12/05/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

24 trich tubs, speaks for itself.

scan any of franks threads.
hes clearly, by his own admission,
cavalier about bio handling and its hazards.

as for this.....
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psykonautix said:
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Kizzle said:
I've never bought into the idea of permanently destroying your ability to grow in a location. People are quick to use ambient spore counts as an excuse for why their grows keep ending in mold without considering other possibilities. With adequate ventilation the air returns to outdoor levels relatively quickly once the mold source has been removed. Albeit outdoor levels are usually significantly higher than normal indoor levels.




if this is commending someone ill take a raincheck




its clearly in great error.
trying to stay on topic.......trich and filth.
to debunk something so bizzare, is beyond the scope of the thread.

i do respect franks honesty.
but im appalled at his practice.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
    #19232248 - 12/05/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

can we see your lab, anne?


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: fractaldill]
    #19232252 - 12/05/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

ooo yes


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19232918 - 12/05/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:growshrooms: i wanna see her mushies :ohsodevious:


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
    #19232932 - 12/05/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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anne halonium said:

actually, admitting to a fly by night grow,
is rather honest.


i even commend frank for his honesty on his filthy ops.





What you call "fly by night grows" and "filthy ops" must not be as bad as you claim because we're both (especially him) having great success with little to no contamination problems. The 24 tubs of trich you keep harping on about was quite awhile ago, and he has since gotten it under control.

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feel free to hate me for that stand.




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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19232957 - 12/05/13 05:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

my lab is simplistic.
it consists of a room,
well painted, no carpet, and 6 large rubbermaid cabinets,
along with twin HEPA whole room air, and overhead LED, in red, white, and blue phases.......

its impossible to photog the whole thing at once.
but heres a sample of many pics ive shown of it.

i run about 98% no contams, and thats over YEARS consistantly.
clean, neat and organized , is the key to low contams.

boxes are my FC's, lab has a comp, and the FC's have a tablet .

point is, ya can have organized and clean ops, at reasonable cost.

this is the fungi area. im keeping wraps on the cacti boxes ATM,
cuz i have a surprise coming......



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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
    #19232987 - 12/05/13 05:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:trippinballs::mushroom2:looks like a led night club in there:mushroom2::trippinballs:

uber cool..thou i would find it hard to concetrate on the work at hand :eek:


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
    #19232991 - 12/05/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

now see... being a college student makes a setup like that rather difficult. i like it though! a professional setup is my long term goal. i assume there are lots of people like me in the shroomery.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
    #19232996 - 12/05/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

not even gonna lie thats pretty damn impressive. 

could you shed some light on the different color light phases?
pun totally intended


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19233040 - 12/05/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i can shift the lights all the way from 450 nm to 680 nm,
in any combo / color range.

i grow cacti, in the same room , as fungi, to scale.
i couldnt find the pics of the 1 meter power adjustable blower.

im goddess of weather in my lab.

place also has dedicated fridge and microwave.
and its own bathroom. deadbolt key around my neck access.


point is peeps, look closely.
place is clean, neat , orderly, and easy to maintain.
note, almost everything can be wiped with 10% bleach.

is it level 4 bio containment ? no. not meant to be.
its more like a fair and square level 2.
( if ya dont know bio level handling , wiki)

thing is , for a tub or so, who cares?
but, if ya wanna grow all kinds of things,
reliably, and to scale over time,
clean and neat, makes a BIG difference.
waste costs,
and there are safety concerns, with some contams exposure.

im saying, we should all strive for our best,
and contams, wither thru cleanliness.

stamets the "MC", the whole back of the book
is dedicated to contams.
its important to know how to be clean,
and how to avoid them, and why.
ignore me as ya wish.
but get a copy of MC and read stamets work.
he says more about clean and contams, than i ever will.
he holds a high standard. we should all take note.

its all about a clean quality control healthy grow.
and clean, is one of the cheapest things ya can do to improve grows.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19233099 - 12/05/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Did you say you got 3 flushes before the trich showed up?

That's pretty good.

If you are using coir and you get molds before the first flush, the culprit is a bad spawn jar or culture.

Also, you have tons of mold spores flying all over your house anyways. Having some green substrate is not going to ruin your ability to grow. I've totally blown up my place with trich before (24 tubs at once) and I still get by. It just means you'll have to be a little more precise with your sterile work is all.



^this.  THANK YOU!!!
totally true in my experience.  ive had trich before and it never seems to affect my newly spawned pasteurized substrate.  or colonized tubs before the second, and usualy third flush.  occasionaly i get a trich patch during second flush, but rarely.  more often after second and during or after the third.  and ive opened up a few tubs in my work area with trich.  even one time let it fruit out.  ive always wondered about why people are so religious about getting trich the hell out asap.  i mean, i get it.  its smart.  now i have a better situation so i move a trich infected tub to another area away from the rest, and while conditions are not ideal, such as heat, lighting or FAE, i can still pull out a lil more yield because of doing so, instead of just taking outside and burying.  and ive yet to see it effect my spawn or tubs.  :shrug:


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19233253 - 12/05/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Anne, I've seen those same pics over and over again. Can you post something new? And whatever happened to the surprise we were supposed to get around Halloween, did I just miss that thread?


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19234019 - 12/05/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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not even gonna lie thats pretty damn impressive. 

could you shed some light on the different color light phases?
pun totally intended





i read this like - "not even gunna lie thats pretty damn expensive."


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Josh.0]
    #19234058 - 12/05/13 09:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

that too josh.o


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: bEelzeBosS]
    #19234079 - 12/05/13 09:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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chaotic646 said:
Anne, I've seen those same pics over and over again. Can you post something new? And whatever happened to the surprise we were supposed to get around Halloween, did I just miss that thread?



The future is coming, just delayed by day-light-savings or leap year etc.

I noticed that the future that was preached about was certainly to be delivered by Halloween, but I did not address the monster directly (I have it blocked).  I figured that if it was so awesome that it had to be announced in advance that there would have been substance to it.....but it was just more of the same hot air.

If we could harness that hot air, perhaps we could pasteurize bulk with it.  That may be the basis of the future....Hot air pasteurization....


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #19235257 - 12/06/13 05:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hot air pastuerization in the lab/dance club!  I had to unblock just so I could see it.  Get some strobes and speakers in there and I think you will have it down!


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
    #19235297 - 12/06/13 06:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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anne halonium said:
my lab is simplistic.
it consists of a room,
well painted, no carpet, and 6 large rubbermaid cabinets,
along with twin HEPA whole room air, and overhead LED, in red, white, and blue phases.......





Anne, what exactly are all of these different color lights for? I'm intrigued.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: sukhavati12]
    #19235383 - 12/06/13 07:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

shes a patriot.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: sukhavati12]
    #19235477 - 12/06/13 08:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

sukhavati12 said:
Quote:

anne halonium said:
my lab is simplistic.
it consists of a room,
well painted, no carpet, and 6 large rubbermaid cabinets,
along with twin HEPA whole room air, and overhead LED, in red, white, and blue phases.......





Anne, what exactly are all of these different color lights for? I'm intrigued.





depends on my needs.
you can do some cool things with light manipulation/ light control.
its beyond the scope of this thread.


my thing thing in this thread isnt about lights.
and ,i dont expect barn growers to wise up any,
im here to appeal to the decent growers, who value a clean grow, and to encourage clean practice.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
    #19235623 - 12/06/13 09:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

being a college student, i cant afford to have a set up of that scale at the moment. however i do practice as sterile of a procedure as i possibly can. :/


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: fractaldill]
    #19235696 - 12/06/13 09:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

even when ya did,
and had several decades of grows, and thousands of rare pics,
of both cacti and fungi ,
and threads / blogs with 10's of thousands of hits each..........

you would still have to argue,
with peeps that grow trich tubs,
and declare lucky grows skill.

its bizzare, clean well equipped grows are attacked.
and,
filthy poorly equipped grows are exalted as skill.

the community, deserves better.

good cleaning, and good luck.
this thread shows , theres a long , long, way to go.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
    #19239359 - 12/07/13 02:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

where are your tek's?


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19239716 - 12/07/13 07:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium] * 1
    #19240215 - 12/07/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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its bizzare, clean well equipped grows are attacked.
and,
filthy poorly equipped grows are exalted as skill.



You seemed to have totally missed the point of what he was saying. 24 tubs of trich, yet life goes on. If I remember correctly from his other posts the cause had absolutely nothing to do with anything you've been mentioning. He had a contaminated culture that showed no signs of the contamination and he found the problem and fixed it.

You claim that practically everyone but you is growing in sub-standard conditions. That makes them standard conditions. So whatever claims you have to make about superior technique and skill can be made without belittling every other cultivator on here.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Kizzle] * 1
    #19240255 - 12/07/13 10:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You seemed to have totally missed the point of what he was saying.




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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Kizzle]
    #19240265 - 12/07/13 10:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You seemed to have totally missed the point of what he was saying. 24 tubs of trich, yet life goes on. If I remember correctly from his other posts the cause had absolutely nothing to do with anything you've been mentioning. He had a contaminated culture that showed no signs of the contamination and he found the problem and fixed it.




To clarify, I had 24 tubs of trich about two years ago, one of my first large projects.

The LC was contaminated and didn't show green until it was on bulk (see how "new" I was? :lol: )

The green that was "hiding," that was giving me green 48 hours after the first flush- that green was present in my culture on agar, growing in tandem. Once found, it was thoroughly eradicated.

Only lost a couple isolates when the different myceliums could not be coerced into separating.

This "house cleaning" was the basis for my agar media journal, which will be updated again as soon as I need to do some plates.

End result: 42 individual isolates, on slants in storage, they're all clean and I've not had an issue since.

Anne is a troll guys. Let her bark and babble, she will never concede a single point and she doesn't even grow mushrooms.  All her pics are years old.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
    #19240279 - 12/07/13 10:43 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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google em.




lol have you googled yourself lately?  nothing but negative remarks

see a pattern?


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    #19240282 - 12/07/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

and not a single TEK in the results


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Kizzle]
    #19240287 - 12/07/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You seemed to have totally missed the point of what he was saying. 24 tubs of trich, yet life goes on. If I remember correctly from his other posts the cause had absolutely nothing to do with anything you've been mentioning. He had a contaminated culture that showed no signs of the contamination and he found the problem and fixed it.




To clarify, I had 24 tubs of trich about two years ago, one of my first large projects.

The LC was contaminated and didn't show green until it was on bulk (see how "new" I was? :lol: )

The green that was "hiding," it was giving me green 48 hours after the first flush- that green was present in my culture on agar, growing in tandem. Once found, it was thoroughly eradicated.

Only lost a couple isolates when the different myceliums could not be coerced into separating.

This "house cleaning" was the basis for my agar media journal, which will be updated again as soon as I need to do some plates.

End result: 42 individual isolates, on slants in storage, they're all clean and I've not had an issue since :thumbup:

Anne is a troll, guys. All his pics are years old, I doubt he even grows mushrooms. All his "coming soon" promises will never materialize. Let him bark and babble to himself, that's all it is :wink:


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19240311 - 12/07/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

thats the point frank...........
i was growing to scale, long before digital pics or internet.
and it appears, DECADES, before you were.

and, i wanst growing trich.

psy, who cares, your a 158 post sock puppet.
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    #19240321 - 12/07/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I just started and I do not claim to be and am not an expert

I am here to learn and grow in a positive manner

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    #19240327 - 12/07/13 10:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

and maybe you should google yourself and learn something


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19240341 - 12/07/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i just did, your not even a judge of a spore kit.
id actaully rather ya didnt study my work.
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
    #19240350 - 12/07/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't even understand how someone who claims to be such an expert on psych's can be so negative... smh

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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19240425 - 12/07/13 11:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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    #19240430 - 12/07/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

rotfl just saw the "butthurt"

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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19240494 - 12/07/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't know guys, I once got trich on a 3 week old apple I left sitting out, maybe I should abandon growing in my house and invest in a microbiology lab. I mean, clearly, I am an awful mycologists and I will never grow anything but mold ever again. I should probably just burn all of my jars and tubs and equipment since I'm such a disgrace :biggrin:


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19240497 - 12/07/13 11:43 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

^ if this forum had a like button :smile:


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19240504 - 12/07/13 11:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Oh wait, glass jars won't burn, I guess I should have bought pp5 plastic:facepalm3:


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19240507 - 12/07/13 11:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't know guys, I once got trich on a 3 week old apple I left sitting out, maybe I should abandon growing in my house and invest in a microbiology lab. I mean, clearly, I am an awful mycologists and I will never grow anything but mold ever again. I should probably just burn all of my jars and tubs and equipment since I'm such a disgrace :biggrin:




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    #19240533 - 12/07/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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van der griegen said:
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I don't know guys, I once got trich on a 3 week old apple I left sitting out, maybe I should abandon growing in my house and invest in a microbiology lab. I mean, clearly, I am an awful mycologists and I will never grow anything but mold ever again. I should probably just burn all of my jars and tubs and equipment since I'm such a disgrace :biggrin:




I wonder how often those mycologists who actually study mold have to do this.



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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19240971 - 12/07/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

When this happens to me I just cut out or disinfect the area after I get it to my outside shed ASAP

I just let it finish that flush then trash it depending on how bad it is

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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Kalypto]
    #19240973 - 12/07/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I did exactly that cut it out and put it in the garage


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Kalypto]
    #19240977 - 12/07/13 01:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I would not under any circumstances leave that tub inside your house though




Everyone is so dramatic about this. While it certainly isn't good form, it's not that big of a deal


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19240992 - 12/07/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I would not under any circumstances leave that tub inside your house though




Everyone is so dramatic about this. While it certainly isn't good form, it's not that big of a deal





I just said this explicitly because last time I didnt I was flammed for saying its ok to cut a section out .


If im not mistaken

If you have trich in a tub its in your house right?

Polyfill isnt a filter so natural air currents or fans would just disperse it lightly anyways right?

Plus would proper technique make it so that it doesnt even matter?


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Kalypto]
    #19241024 - 12/07/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well, it is certainly not good form to excise a chunk, because it usually just results in more mold.

And of course it's not good to increase the spore load of any kind of spores in your house, but they're not gonna kill you 99.99% of the time. Plus, you have windows and adequate ventilation in your house (I hope).

Sterile technique applies to cultures, grains, and sterile media in general. This is where your contaminants start more often than not.

Some are quite good at "hiding" until it goes green on your bulk substrate. But that doesn't mean the issue wasn't present for most of the ride. Some contams are very easy to miss.

Bulk substrate is pretty resilient when it is pasteurized properly. There is no need to worry about it so much.

It's damn hard to get mold to germinate on pasteurized coir, even crappily pasteurized and sterile coir will not readily germinate spores.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19241044 - 12/07/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Well, it is certainly not good form to excise a chunk, because it usually just results in more mold.

And of course it's not good to increase the spore load of any kind of spores in your house, but they're not gonna kill you 99.99% of the time. Plus, you have windows and adequate ventilation in your house (I hope).

Sterile technique applies to cultures, grains, and sterile media in general. This is where your contaminants start more often than not.

Some are quite good at "hiding" until it goes green on your bulk substrate. But that doesn't mean the issue wasn't present for most of the ride. Some contams are very easy to miss.

Bulk substrate is pretty resilient when it is pasteurized properly. There is no need to worry about it so much.

It's damn hard to get mold to germinate on pasteurized coir, even crappily pasteurized and sterile coir will not readily germinate spores.




I only ever take chunks out when the tub is already inside and will not go back inside until its has been cleaned

I use coir as my snake tank media , NEVER have I seen mold grow in there even though I have it at a constant 60% humidity


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Kalypto]
    #19241052 - 12/07/13 01:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

To each their own my man :thumbup:

Isn't coir awesome? I love it.

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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19241096 - 12/07/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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To each their own my man :thumbup:

Isn't coir awesome? I love it.

Glad to see you're still around and kicking it!



The stuff Is amazing haha

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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Kalypto]
    #19241365 - 12/07/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Well, it is certainly not good form to excise a chunk, because it usually just results in more mold.



Yeah. The main thing that gets overlooked when people think it's a good idea to cut mold out is that you're not just spreading spores into the air at that point, you're spreading fragments of mold mycelium in relatively large amounts which can far more easily contaminate stuff. Especially in terms of colonized substrates mold mycelium fragments are far worse than exposure to mold spores.

Salting is just as effective in term of suppressing it so no reason to ever try to cut it out. In fact if you salt a large enough area there's a real chance of killing even an aggressive mold off completely, unless the source is the spawn, but in a relatively small substrate like a monotub the area you'd have to salt for that kind of effect would pretty much be the entire substrate.

Like I said earlier I consider salting a way of minimizing the effects of keeping it around temporarily to finish a flush, not a cure. Recurrence is extremely common and in most cases you probably wouldn't get another flush anyway if you tried.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19242065 - 12/07/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You are here to be a cunt apparently




this cunt...........
grows boomers and lophs,
same size, in about 45 days, from seed and spore.
in plastics, under LED light, in the same lab.
routinely........



and ,neither crop, gets trich.


and psy, your a foul mouthed noob.
and your research skills are poor.

but, ill give ya tip, ignore the ostrich,
and, you can be a real grower .

oh ,......... and if you stand with ostrich,
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
    #19242257 - 12/07/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

you're mean anne. goodbye

Good luck to the OP, Starting my first mono as soon as my agar is done growing :smile:


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
    #19244333 - 12/08/13 10:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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psykonautix said:

You are here to be a cunt apparently




this cunt...........
grows boomers and lophs,
same size, in about 45 days, from seed and spore.
in plastics, under LED light, in the same lab.
routinely........



and ,neither crop, gets trich.


and psy, your a foul mouthed noob.
and your research skills are poor.

but, ill give ya tip, ignore the ostrich,
and, you can be a real grower .

oh ,......... and if you stand with ostrich,
expect to get trich , and bit by jaguarette.




Why are you so miserable? that kinda goes against the whole purpose of these substances you are so good at cultivating...


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: fractaldill]
    #19244756 - 12/08/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

ok,

im  disturbed , some noob would call me a cunt,
because he looked like a fool calling out a established grower.

naturally, id expect you to defend it.

not of consequence, hes a sock puppet anyway,
anyone with so few posts, and the hubris toward me,
is a  shill with an agenda of some type,.
hating me, is an acquired taste, like katsup and ramen noodles.
he simply hasnt had exposure to the community enough to even know WHAT to hate.

i scanned his posts.
if margaret thatcher, grew from a kit,
he still doesnt have the status to say a word .

this is the typical poser,
trying to make points, by taking shots at me,
and, he got bit.
when ya cant grow, shoot at the jaguarette.
yawn.
why dont you guys , um, just try and grow better/ cleaner/ smarter?
what would happen if i wasnt around?
how the hell would any noob get status without me to hate?

many crappy PF tek, and boring trich tub threads ABOUND.
yawn. yawn .yawwn.
but,
if ya do that AND hate annie,
then your a spotlight PHD mycologist.

if anything, he has a claim to fame now.
just another service i provide, with extra value:thumbup:



of course,
its funny, when he does it to me .
im sure hell do it to others , at wich point, the humor is mine.

the ostrich club, should be ashamed for poaching up noobs like that, and ,then pushing them in the jaguarette cage.


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    #19244834 - 12/08/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: rawrrock]
    #19244849 - 12/08/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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you're mean anne. goodbye

Good luck to the OP, Starting my first mono as soon as my agar is done growing :smile:





Lol go to franks page and click the Anne link,, the quality of my forum life has Increased ten fold

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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: sharpshroomer98]
    #19244884 - 12/08/13 01:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

well with  hero frank,
your good for at least 24 trich tubs.

:heytherebadboy:

and, thats the point..........

( note , how i deftly steer the thread back
to the trichy subject at hand)

they want you to all look at mean ol annie,
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
    #19244976 - 12/08/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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well with  hero frank,
your good for at least 24 trich tubs.

:heytherebadboy:

and, thats the point..........

( note , how i deftly steer the thread back
to the trichy subject at hand)

they want you to all look at mean ol annie,
so ya wont see the their filthy labs .

dont fall for the trichs.




your tellin me you havent ran into a trich batch when you were new :rolleyes:

i had one and i was able to identify and fix it.

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    #19245052 - 12/08/13 01:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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they want you to all look at mean ol annie,
so ya wont see the their filthy labs .


I don't have a lab to get filthy. All I have is a room full of exotic animals (snakes, a ferret, turtles, etc) and they do make my bedroom pretty filthy. Despite the ferret shit I found next to the bag of aspen bedding I like to stealthily store my jars in, I still have fairly good results:shrug:


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    #19245070 - 12/08/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i have uber results and i use my kitchen, i can cook spaghetti drink beer and pastuerize shit all at the same time.


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    #19246749 - 12/08/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

#1 I don't hate ANYONE

#2 Like I said before I am not and do not claim to be an expert therefore calling me a noob is just stupid.  NO shit I already said that I just started and am learning.

#3 Like I said before, it doesn't matter if your the most correct person in the world, If your an ASS no one wants to hear it.  This should be a place to grow and learn in a positive manner and negative ppl like yourself have no place.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19246762 - 12/08/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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#1 I don't hate ANYONE

#2 Like I said before I am not and do not claim to be an expert therefore calling me a noob is just stupid.  NO shit I already said that I just started and am learning.

#3 Like I said before, it doesn't matter if your the most correct person in the world, If your an ASS no one wants to hear it.  This should be a place to grow and learn in a positive manner and negative ppl like yourself have no place.



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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19246778 - 12/08/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Being a noob is not a bad thing. If I felt that I had gone as far in this hobby as I could and there were no hurdles or challenges left, I'd probably get bored. Shit that's half the reason for me giving V tek a shot, just to try something new.

Something I'm trying new is poo cakes. Got em in the sterilizer right now. Haven't done cakes in a loooong time and im pretty pumped to give these a shot. Shit im even going to knock em up with a ms syringe :lol:

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    #19246787 - 12/08/13 07:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Being a noob is not a bad thing. If I felt that I had gone as far in this hobby as I could and there were no hurdles or challenges left, I'd probably get bored. Shit that's half the reason for me giving V tek a shot, just to try something new.

Something I'm trying new is poo cakes. Got em in the sterilizer right now. Haven't done cakes in a loooong time and im pretty pumped to give these a shot. Shit im even going to knock em up with a ms syringe :lol:

BTW don't ignore anne, she is just too damn funny :lmafo:





Same , Ive been growing for over a year now

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    #19246814 - 12/08/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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    #19246830 - 12/08/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have to unblock Anne occasionally just for a laugh "to hear how we all suck and should be doing it Anne's way" yes I'm an Amish turd farmer. I'm doing cakes with poo v-tek too but I'm not using a microwave like Anne lol maybe the radiation got to he/she's head!


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: blueconfusion]
    #19246832 - 12/08/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Agar is easier than you think


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: blueconfusion]
    #19246904 - 12/08/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Agar is the key to this whole hobby. Best thing to happen to mycology since spores :super:





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Agar is easier than you think





its as easy as makin jello, you just gotta sterilize it


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: blueconfusion]
    #19246919 - 12/08/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well my goal is to create a new strain , Which I hear is incredibly difficult and time consuming , so Its a hobby that I plan to continue learning stuff for years to come


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    #19246944 - 12/08/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

anne is contamination on the Shroomery and needs to be isolated away. The "ignore"button is the digital agar.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: SpitballJedi] * 1
    #19246962 - 12/08/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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anne is contamination on the Shroomery and needs to be isolated away. The "ignore"button is the digital agar.




:fearandloathing: Not yet, I wanna study its habits. . .


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19246968 - 12/08/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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anne is contamination on the Shroomery and needs to be isolated away. The "ignore"button is the digital agar.




:fearandloathing: Not yet, I wanna study its habits. . .






:canthelpbutlaugh:


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19247078 - 12/08/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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anne is contamination on the Shroomery and needs to be isolated away. The "ignore"button is the digital agar.




:fearandloathing: Not yet, I wanna study its habits. . .




Annederma Halonius is usually weak and sporadic. It tends to pop up without much consequence and then disappears.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19247113 - 12/08/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Exposure often results in laughing fits and a feeling of being entertained :lmafo:


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19247237 - 12/08/13 09:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:nodofunderstanding:

Just for fun, we should have a serious "why or Why not to Ignore Anne" debate. We'll get all academic about it, but be totally facetious.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19247309 - 12/08/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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anne is contamination on the Shroomery and needs to be isolated away. The "ignore"button is the digital agar.




:fearandloathing: Not yet, I wanna study its habits. . .





theres an electric snake in the sky


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: twistedty]
    #19247339 - 12/08/13 09:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Shoot it!


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19247719 - 12/08/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I haven't ignored her simply because she is so damn fun to argue with. I mean, did you see her recent post about "scanning your shrooms for toxins?" Fucking priceless.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19247753 - 12/08/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

HEY! I'm really concerned about potential toxins in my shrooms. Now excuse me, I gotta go suck back a cigarette. Those are at least pure :awesomenod:


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19247810 - 12/08/13 10:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Haha. You people are hilarious.


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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
    #19247925 - 12/08/13 10:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This thread has been closed.

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Sorry OP, but this has totally gotten out of hands,
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