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FrankHorrigan
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: fractaldill]
#19227939 - 12/04/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's not. Try it with hpoo and find out 
It works with coir though, because coir doesn't germinate mold spores very readily.
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PussyFart
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: fractaldill]
#19227969 - 12/04/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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fractaldill said: the bucket tek isnt proper pasteurization
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fractaldill
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19228072 - 12/04/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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yea ive had a few quarts of coir sitting in my closet for at least 3 weeks now. just smelled it and its clean. unpasteurized too, just hydrated.
Edited by fractaldill (12/04/13 06:28 PM)
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psykonautix
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19228361 - 12/04/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i just noticed you had a link to block annie in your sig frank, thats fucking funny
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anne halonium
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
#19228689 - 12/04/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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anne halonium, so powerful, i can turn peeps into ostrich, with a single click.
see herd leader frank, for more details.
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psykonautix
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
#19230991 - 12/05/13 12:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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like I said before you may know what your talking about but NO ONE wants to hear it delivered the way you deliver it. Don't be a dick, dick!
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Josh.0
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
#19231014 - 12/05/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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psykonautix said: i just noticed you had a link to block annie in your sig frank, thats fucking funny

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Greendreams

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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) *DELETED* [Re: Josh.0]
#19231038 - 12/05/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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psykonautix
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Greendreams]
#19231043 - 12/05/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sorry to hear that.
Down here in the south it's warm and humid as fucking hell so my tubs colonize in about 5 days
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
#19231346 - 12/05/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah I'm still relatively new to the hobby but I've had both cakes and tubs go green after a couple flushes and have left them to finish up their business, picked em then move them somewhere else (garage in summer... haven't rlly considered where now that its winter) to see if anything else comes up, which in most cases there's a meager side flush somewhere. Then I just toss them when things just look hopeless.
I've only ever rlly kept my grows in the same area and I've noticed zero difference in contam rates at all due to those other tubs being in here prior to or really even for new grows or grows that were still going on in the same room as the subject tub was.
I was under the impression, and please correct me if I'm wrong for looking at it like this, that just as 100% colonized grains are supposed to be fully contaminate resistant, so should a fully colonized bulk sup (under the premise that the grain was actually clean as well as sub going through a successful pasteurization).
As mentioned above, if a tub for example goes bad right after or even before a first flush this means to me that either the grain or sub wasn't actually clean. Had everything been clean and everything colonized completely a fresh tub, even with another tub in the same room with tric on it, should have no contamination issues due to that factor. I understand with each flush the colony weakens, allowing for more chance that a competitive mold will gain hold somewhere and colonize itself as well and that by having another tub with competitive mold growing on it will even more so increase the likenesses of this occurring but from what I can tell it seems like there's a relatively high amount of competitive spores floating around in open in general to where if this was going to happen and a sub had weakened enough in a particular area that it would happen anyway... with a bad tub in the room perhaps a bit sooner then later but again if it was going to happen anyway then that 1 or 2 days wouldn't make much a different to the grower in the long run anyway as it was downhill since before they even saw it.
I'm not scientist though, that just kinda how I've organized it to sound in my head.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Mosey3012]
#19231698 - 12/05/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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There are certain steps in the process that must be done under aseptic conditions- cultures, grains, sterile media in general.
The fruiting room is not one of these steps 
(though cleanliness certainly does not hurt. I clean my grow room regularly with a Kirby as well as washing the walls and what not)
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fractaldill
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
#19231745 - 12/05/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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83 now
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bEelzeBosS
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19231785 - 12/05/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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FrankHorrigan said: There are certain steps in the process that must be done under aseptic conditions- cultures, grains, sterile media in general.
The fruiting room is not one of these steps 
(though cleanliness certainly does not hurt. I clean my grow room regularly with a Kirby as well as washing the walls and what not)
For sure. I grow in a 10'x6' closet, only vacuum if I spill something, have never washed the walls, opened a tub a couple months ago with trich/extracted the trich, and I still get 2-5 flushes per tub.
All my sterile work is done with a SAB in a bathroom and I rarely get contams. A lot of people think its dumb to work in a bathroom, but its the easiest room in the house to sanitize and control air movement because most bathrooms are small. You can also turn your shower on hot for a few minutes and steam the room, causing everything in the air to fall.
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anne halonium
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: fractaldill]
#19231792 - 12/05/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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fractaldill said: 83 now
but none of consequence.....
shoomery is a great place. thousands and thousands of good peeps, and only 83 ostrich.
as flattering as this is and all, this thread is really about trich, and its filthy causes. and of course, the type of peeps / grows , that have epic 24 trich tub gardens.
other than franks nod to a trich dusting kirby, im the only one in this thread essentially advocating a clean grow.
83 ostrich, dont care about a clean grow it seems.
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bEelzeBosS
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#19231806 - 12/05/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm apparently not half as sterile as you are anne, and I rarely get contams. Not everyone can grow in a lab, fortunately cubes are fairly contam resistant and easy to grow if you just get a good technique down.
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twistedty
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#19231813 - 12/05/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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chaotic646 said: I'm apparently not half as sterile as you are anne, and I rarely get contams. Not everyone can grow in a lab, fortunately cubes are fairly contam resistant and easy to grow if you just get a good technique down.
my thoughts exactly, i do open air g2gs etc .
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anne halonium
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#19231854 - 12/05/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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chaotic646 said: I'm apparently not half as sterile as you are anne, and I rarely get contams. Not everyone can grow in a lab, fortunately cubes are fairly contam resistant and easy to grow if you just get a good technique down.
everyone can achieve close to lab conditions at home. many do.
ill pass on your take on contams and bio handling to the pros. all the big labs can save time and money now, as youve assured them, they can " wing it" and be fine.
all ya have to do is believe.
in the sane bio world, ya cant grow in filth , and claim skill you can only claim luck.
id love to see you guys in ANY bio class i had in college. magic, doesnt fly there, like it does here.
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium] 2
#19231867 - 12/05/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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one day she will realize that 90 percent of us are working out of our kitchen to sterilize and parking our sab in front of the tv in the living room so we can watch the big bang theory while we work
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bEelzeBosS
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: anne halonium]
#19231907 - 12/05/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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anne halonium said:
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chaotic646 said: I'm apparently not half as sterile as you are anne, and I rarely get contams. Not everyone can grow in a lab, fortunately cubes are fairly contam resistant and easy to grow if you just get a good technique down.
everyone can achieve close to lab conditions at home. many do.
ill pass on your take on contams and bio handling to the pros. all the big labs can save time and money now, as youve assured them, they can " wing it" and be fine.
all ya have to do is believe.
in the sane bio world, ya cant grow in filth , and claim skill you can only claim luck.
id love to see you guys in ANY bio class i had in college. magic, doesnt fly there, like it does here.
Are you calling me a liar? Just trying to understand your point...I have no reason to lie, I'll start posting more pics of my grows once some more flushes are ready to harvest.
I don't care about "pros' or "big labs" or "bio classes"...I'm having success doing it my way, can efficiently grow WAY more than me and my friends could ever eat or get rid of, and after the initial cost of my supplies I can do it dirt cheap.
What you dont seem to be able to grasp is most people here don't care about that stuff either, they want it to be easy, cost-effective, and get big yields. The way Frank does it, I do it, and many others do it easily accomplishes all of those and with very little contam problems. Have a nice day!
EDIT: Here ya go...I know its not much, but these are the only 2 I have pinning right now. Not perfect isolates but close and potent as hell.


Edited by bEelzeBosS (12/05/13 04:17 PM)
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blueconfusion
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: bEelzeBosS]
#19231989 - 12/05/13 04:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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my grow room has my fish tank in it!!! my "lab" where i do most of my sterile work (in my glovebox) is the bathroom next to it. i'm in and out of my grow room all day my wife and kids are as well... can't say i have to many problems... just sayin'
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