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psykonautix
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pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix)
#19218033 - 12/02/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can you cut this out, use the fruits, or is it all garbage?

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JMcDoogle
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
#19218042 - 12/02/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sorry.
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live2fry
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: JMcDoogle]
#19218052 - 12/02/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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sorry bro. TRUST ME when i say throw it all away right now.
you can keep any pins, but get that shit outside
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: JMcDoogle]
#19218054 - 12/02/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sorry for your loss.
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: live2fry]
#19218062 - 12/02/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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fruits are good but the tub is toast. it's recommended NOT to cut out a piece because it doesn't work and will screw up your entire grow space/house.
you can move the tub outside if the weather is ok, i wouldn't keep that shit inside anymore anyway.
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psykonautix
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: spacechildo]
#19218071 - 12/02/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's outside! I dont wanna risk it fuckin with my others.
Could those fruits be poisonous though. A buddy told me the toxins travel through the mycellial network even though its not in that area of the cake
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
#19218076 - 12/02/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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yea toss it. i normally would say fruit it elsewhere and let it finish its course, but those fruits look spent anyway.
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live2fry
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
#19218083 - 12/02/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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psykonautix said: It's outside! I dont wanna risk it fuckin with my others.
Could those fruits be poisonous though. A buddy told me the toxins travel through the mycellial network even though its not in that area of the cake
hmmm, I don't think thats true but maybe you should do some research on your own since i don't know for sure.
you should be fine though.
I tried to cut the green out once and it only got worse
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix] 1
#19218084 - 12/02/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nothing wrong with those fruits. Fungi grow together all the time in nature.
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spacechildo
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: fractaldill]
#19218135 - 12/02/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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fruits are all good, RR commented some on this a couple weeks back. They don't send poison to the shroom, I think radiation might be the only exception. (stamet + fukushima)
Eat em if/when they stop growing.
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: spacechildo]
#19218552 - 12/02/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've heard that heavy metals can get absorbed through the substrate into the shroom.
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Psilicon
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: bootster]
#19218626 - 12/02/13 06:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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They can be, which is actually the mechanism by which Stamets proposed cleaning up Fukushima. Personally I think it's a pretty fucktarded idea and that he's just trying to make a buck on it.
Either way, there are no heavy metals in trichoderma. Save the pins if you think they're worth saving, and bury the sub if you live somewhere where it's still warm.
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Psilicon]
#19218739 - 12/02/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ive always heard trich is just about everywhere. always wondered why it would be such a big deal to let a tub finish out a flush, especially if its got pins that are still growing, when it has a lil patch of trich. especially, if you werent opening it. wouldnt it be kinda hard for the trich to get through the polyfil?
ive had trich before on previous tubs in rooms that ive spawned in after the fact. never had an issue before second flush from pasteurized substrate since then. Knock on wood!
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: DeadPhan]
#19218851 - 12/02/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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By no means am I very experienced but my first tub did this same thing about the time pins formed I saw a small green spot but I didn't have have any other tubs going so I didn't have anything to worry about.
I let my tub finish of course the trich grew along with my cubes any way the mushrooms still grew big and healthy and weren't "bad" I ended up getting 6 dry oz from the tub.
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: firstTimer213]
#19218932 - 12/02/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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have you had any tubs since in the same grow area?
if so, did you by chance spawn them in that area?
was your first tub coir verm gypsum?
if so, did you pasteurize it?
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: DeadPhan]
#19219004 - 12/02/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not recommending it but I have successfully cut out a small patch of green and got two large flushes out of the tub before it came back. Didn't even remove it from my grow room. This was over a month ago and so far my other tubs are fine and are all on multiple flushes.
In fact the tub I'm talking about is the photo on the far right of my sig...if you look closely on the right of the pic you can see the crater I cut out. The green showed up right as the pins started to form.
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: DeadPhan]
#19219246 - 12/02/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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DeadPhan said: ive always heard trich is just about everywhere. always wondered why it would be such a big deal to let a tub finish out a flush, especially if its got pins that are still growing, when it has a lil patch of trich. especially, if you werent opening it. wouldnt it be kinda hard for the trich to get through the polyfil?
ive had trich before on previous tubs in rooms that ive spawned in after the fact. never had an issue before second flush from pasteurized substrate since then. Knock on wood!
The problem with leaving trich is that its jizzin spores all over your house thus increasing your spore load exponentially. Also the loose polyfil in your top holes ain't even gonna slow dem spores down.
Personally I have no problem with opening up a tub with a small spot of trich to get the mushies before dumping the sub, but you don't want to leave that shit blasting spores all over the place for days. Trich will overtake the sub fast and be dumping spores by the billions. Just ain't doing your future grows any favors at that point. Its not really the pasteurized sub your worried about with a high spore load in your house, I'd be more concerned about one or two working through the filters in my spawn jars.
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psykonautix
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19220989 - 12/03/13 07:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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thanks for all the great information!
I've got it in my garage (which is far from my other tubs)probably just going to cut it out and see what happens as long as the fruits are ok wtf does it matter ya kno something is better than nothing
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fractaldill
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: psykonautix]
#19221090 - 12/03/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not for me :p. but then again i dont eat them (or sell). Any sign of contamination and ill immediately throw it out.
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Re: pretty sure my first mono just got trich (pix) [Re: DeadPhan]
#19221305 - 12/03/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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DeadPhan said: wouldnt it be kinda hard for the trich to get through the polyfil?
Not at all. At least when it's loose like it would be in a tub. The spores can also escape around the lid, especial when it's open.
You can cover a patch of Trich and the area around it with a thick layer of salt until you finish the flush. I wouldn't even bother if you have the option of fruiting it outdoors, if the tub hasn't started pinning yet, or if you have many other substrates fruiting nearby. It's also best to do it as soon as you first see the mold, and before it starts sporulating (which is when you see the green spores) when possible.
It's just a temporary solution to slow it's growth and prevent the spores from going airborne.
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