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Offline245willow19

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People who think being articulate/large vocab means your smart * 2
    #19217337 - 12/02/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Horseshit! The smartest people I have ever known were inarticulate, honest, kind-hearted, experienced, prudent individuals, however, lacked a decent vocabulary and so found it exceptionally difficult to get their point across without sounding foolish and ignorant when in fact they knew exactly what they were talking about, but could not devise a perfect set of words suitable in expressing their opinion and thoughts. I believe Karl pilkington is actually somewhat smart but can’t put anything logical into a sentence without sounding completely stupid and yet a person like me can notice an individual’s intelligence and wisdom and see their qualities. People who are very articulate seem to either be as dumb as a bang of rocks or very naïve and bigheaded.

And is often downplayed and slandered by his associates. He isn’t stupid and I’m getting the impression that he acts stupid and erratic to seem a little interesting. For instance, he’ll say something very logical and then moments later blurt out dumbass shit like an silly thesis as why the sky is blue to stir up Ricky and that tall lanky Aryan looking fellow. But what do I know, I'm stupid and inarticulate :shrug: so how can I find intelligence when I ain't even smart, yo...dawg...homie. These so called "idiots" know a lot more than those idiots working in the office

Anyway what do you think? Does having a large vocabulary define a person’s intelligence?


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Re: People who think being articulate means your smart [Re: 245willow19] * 5
    #19217346 - 12/02/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Being articulate shows intelligence. Me thinks some1 made fun of ur speech today


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Re: People who think being articulate means your smart [Re: 245willow19] * 1
    #19217359 - 12/02/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Offline245willow19

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Re: People who think being articulate means your smart [Re: dontknow] * 1
    #19217368 - 12/02/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Being articulate shows intelligence. Me thinks some1 made fun of ur speech today



I agree but...I think that I worded this thread somewhat badly...erhmm...Does anyone understand what I am trying to say here? I fucked up this thread. Maybe I have just met idiots who have a large vocab but know nothing and like emitting this vibe that people pick up and think "Woah he knows everything" because he has that confident raspy voice :shrug:

Anyway what made me think this way was because today this fellow at rehab has a okay vocab but people think he is stupid and treat him as such...but I think he's smart...he has to stop saying "Do ya know wha I mean?" at the end of every sentence...it does make him sound stupid but he knows his shit. I have faith in him...I hope he doesn't let me down :sad:...maybe I am putting too much effort into this


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Re: People who think being articulate means your smart [Re: 245willow19] * 1
    #19217389 - 12/02/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I was always very book smart but never took any real pride or anything in it, and always just acted silly/dumb. People all thought I was dumb as a rock until they get back their math test and get a 67 and are like wah wah well what did you get? and I just hold up with 98%


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Re: People who think being articulate means your smart [Re: JPDancer] * 2
    #19217395 - 12/02/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

But just because I could absorb facts, understand logic, and memorize alot of things well doesn't mean I'm super smart, I think there are different ways to be smart. I have trouble speaking eloquently. Maybe it's because I never developed the skills I need with my whole dumbass routine.


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Re: People who think being articulate means your smart [Re: 245willow19] * 1
    #19217396 - 12/02/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think if you put yourself in anyone else's shoes enough everybody is equally as smart as the next person. The only stupid people are people who try to talk without any sort of knowledge on the subject or experience when it contradicts what others with more experience/knowledge.


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Re: People who think being articulate means your smart [Re: JPDancer] * 1
    #19217400 - 12/02/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: People who think being articulate means your smart [Re: 245willow19] * 4
    #19217426 - 12/02/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Some people who try to show off a lot with obscure words and complex phrasing are actually pretty terrible writers. People who are truly skilled at writing are generally pretty smart though. There are also some very smart people who aren't that great with language.


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Re: People who think being articulate means your smart [Re: 245willow19] * 1
    #19217434 - 12/02/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i would say having a large vocabulary, especially knowing many languages only can mean positive things. but smart is such a broad term. really all vocab shows is good ability to communicate with more people.


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Re: People who think being articulate means your smart [Re: Synthe] * 1
    #19217441 - 12/02/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Synthe said:
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zappaisgod said: Weekend karate class for six months is useless.  You are providing a disservice with your lies




I honestly agree




Thank you.  Imma gonna have some fun with this fake trustafarian.


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Re: People who think being articulate means your smart [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #19217460 - 12/02/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

you're*

And yes, grammar is important. Every time you make a typo the errorists win.


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Re: People who think being articulate means your smart [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
    #19217466 - 12/02/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Having a large vocabulary doesn't prove your smart; it proves you aren't an idiot and that can go a long way in most situations.


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Re: People who think being articulate means your smart [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #19217468 - 12/02/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

People usually have problems knowing what intelligent is... what do you concieve of as intelligent?


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Re: People who think being articulate means your smart [Re: mpd] * 1
    #19217475 - 12/02/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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mpd said:
Having a large vocabulary doesn't prove your smart; it proves you aren't an idiot and that can go a long way in most situations.




Understanding logic and having a legit vocabulary definitely go a long way. I'm by no means a genius, but everybody I know refuses to debate with me on any topic of relevance because they know that I can run circles around their argument.

Not trying to toot my own horn here, just saying that, to the average idiot, using big words IS intelligence.


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Re: People who think being articulate/large vocab means your smart [Re: 245willow19] * 1
    #19217741 - 12/02/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: People who think being articulate/large vocab means your smart [Re: drkkenny] * 1
    #19217755 - 12/02/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Did you purposely misspell the "your" in the title thread? It's very clever if you did.

Edit: more thought added

Seriously though, being articulate is a skill. But being articulate doesn't mean using correct grammar and syntax all the time. Being articulate around people who aren't "traditionally" articulate could mean understanding slang and in-jokes which can get you further than knowing when to place a comma or semi-colon.

However, anyone doing formal study knows the value of correct grammar and syntax. I study and if I didn't know big words and the like I'd get crap marks. That said there is no way I speak like that when I go down to bowlo to have a beer after looking for shrooms.

Elocution doesn't open the door but it certainly helps you to get down the hall way to the next one.


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Re: People who think being articulate/large vocab means your smart [Re: drkkenny] * 1
    #19217756 - 12/02/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe you're confusing EQ and IQ. It's very common to confuse the two. Some people feel like if someone can't handle themselves emotionally, then they're a fucking idiot, because the average person can, right? Nope, EQ to IQ is apple to oranges.

And I have to agree that being articulate is a sign of intelligence. Being more articulate than someone is a result of better education, or more reading, or just more knowledge in general. I mean, you know MORE words, BIGGER words, and you USE the words BETTER. Does that not show intelligence? That automatically makes them smarter.


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Re: People who think being articulate/large vocab means your smart [Re: andrewmurray86] * 2
    #19217770 - 12/02/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

An intelligent person will change the way the speak to suit their audience. It's not intelligent to babble incoherently and the size of the words you use is irrelevant. It's intelligent to make yourself understood by your audience, whoever they may be.


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Re: People who think being articulate/large vocab means your smart [Re: fiddle] * 1
    #19217788 - 12/02/13 03:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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An intelligent person will change the way the speak to suit their audience. It's not intelligent to babble incoherently and the size of the words you use is irrelevant. It's intelligent to make yourself understood by your audience, whoever they may be.




Which brings me back to my point, if you use MORE words, BIGGER words, and you USE them BETTER, it's like you've proven your own point that you're smarter.


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