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OfflineMescalean
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"Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs.
    #19217130 - 12/02/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Okay so I've been wondering what a "smart drug" vs a " wrong or stupid drug"?

Let me explain. Was playing a video game where one character was saying the other needs direction and that the character with a military background would be at his house at 5:00am and run him. He also said he will get him on the "smart drugs" and off the "wrong drugs"

Now I know certain drugs would obviously help out in a combat/war scenario. Others would be terrible, marijuana.

What do you think the smart and wrong drugs are? Discuss.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mescalean] * 5
    #19217136 - 12/02/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

there are no stupid or wrong drugs

only stupid or wrong people

etc


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: spazmodog]
    #19217146 - 12/02/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Drugs don't kill; people kill.

Remember, when in doubt blame it all on George W. Bush and change the subject.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: spazmodog]
    #19217147 - 12/02/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

spazmodog said:
there are no stupid or wrong drugs

only stupid or wrong people

etc



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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mescalean]
    #19217169 - 12/02/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

For me smart drugs are those that better you as a person whereas wrong drugs are those that just fuck you up and make you useless.  Depending on your brain chemistry, every person out there has different "smart" and "wrong" drugs, and even certain drugs will be smart or wrong depending on dosage and usage pattern. 

For me, obvious smart drugs are psilocybin, LSD and MDMA, wrong drugs are methamphetamine or any disassociative like K or PCP.  Drugs that fall in between being useful for creativity or added loquaciousness in small doses on disparate occasions but being wildly destructive when used excessively and/or on a day to day basis are alcohol, marijuana and cocaine.  If by "smart" drugs, you mean nootropics, well that's a well established class of chemicals that supposedly make you smarter, for the ones I've tried, I find their effectiveness dubious at best and likely a result of the placebo effect.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: morrowasted]
    #19217177 - 12/02/13 12:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i'd say that "smart" drugs are anything that gives you energy/confidence/crazy superhuman abilities and bad drugs are drugs that make u get fucked up and trip balls and be stuck in a couch like :vaped:


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: OMGYAY]
    #19217208 - 12/02/13 01:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

In theory, all drugs are bad because sobriety is the perfect state of mind.

If I were to nominate "smart drugs", I'd only put weed and caffeine in the list, and still, weed can numb you a lot.

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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Patlal]
    #19217243 - 12/02/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

How about smart drugs and wrong drugs in a scenerio where you need to be alert and able to react if something went down.

There are tons of different scenarios? My interest is in performance I suppose. Ignoring long term use what drugs make a person perform better physically and mentally?


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Patlal]
    #19217252 - 12/02/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Meth/coke can be used to keep yourself up for hours. There's quite a few scientists who praise amphetamines for their powers of keeping you going all night. Heroin has been used quite excessively from musicians. Weed is an all day every day kinda drug. Psychedelics can give you spiritual experiences and lots of self growth. Both uppers and downers can do a toll on your organs if used excessively (which is usually the case after extended use). Psychedelics can cause HPPD and some people aren't ready to let go on them sometimes.

Overall as said earlier. No smart/stupid drugs. Only smart/stupid people. If you're smart you can use drugs as a tool to better yourself. Like a hammer and nails to make a fence. Or you can use a hammer to destroy the fence. So cliche but with great power comes great responsibility.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Patlal]
    #19217283 - 12/02/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Smart drugs; when the positive out measures the negative.  too much causing difficulties to nervous system or implications to happenings encountering would be wrong.

there is a smart way to use drugs and a wrong way.  but what is one to another may not be same to the other.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mad Season]
    #19217286 - 12/02/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I also liked the depending on brain chemistry bit above. Weed effects me way different than my girlfriend, acts as an upper with her kinda, cant sleep. Knocks me out


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mescalean]
    #19218041 - 12/02/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Smart drugs are typically drugs that enhance your physical and mental abilities for a period of time. Stimulants, typically any form of amphetamine. Of course if you overdo the dosage then they won't help enhance shit. You can see that in any drug den.

The nazis used them to good measure however if you notice most folks think the nazis were crazies sadists with paranoid psychosis like hell and that's part of the reason. Some overdid it, haha.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mescalean]
    #19218068 - 12/02/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I made a list of all the drugs I think are bad and that no one should ever do because all they do is ruin lives

Heroin
Meth
Ketamine
Cocaine
Xanax
XTC
PCP
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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Patlal]
    #19218074 - 12/02/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
In theory, all drugs are bad because sobriety is the perfect state of mind.




Let's agree to disagree. :strokebeard:

Smart drugs, by definition, are drugs that make you "smarter" while they act like low doses of psychs and stimulants in general. There are no "dumb" drugs.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: spazmodog]
    #19218108 - 12/02/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think any drug is wrong, but neither do I think any of them are smart. Unless you have a background and understand yourself before any drug, then you can do any drug in a smart way.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: HerbJunkette]
    #19218154 - 12/02/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

smart drugs = nootropics

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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Legend]
    #19218200 - 12/02/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So many drug elitists up in this thread :shake: What is this TPE?:shrug:


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19219223 - 12/02/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Smart drugs work to activate the pineal gland.


And just like that the forum had a new member.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: abltsandwich]
    #19219241 - 12/02/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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abltsandwich said:
I made a list of all the drugs I think are bad and that no one should ever do because all they do is ruin lives

Heroin
Meth
Ketamine
Cocaine
Xanax
XTC
PCP
bath salts



Oxycodone hydrocodone oxymorphone etc


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: berdinwall]
    #19219257 - 12/02/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

He's talking about amphetamines. Soldiers take amphetamines


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