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"Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs.
    #19217130 - 12/02/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Okay so I've been wondering what a "smart drug" vs a " wrong or stupid drug"?

Let me explain. Was playing a video game where one character was saying the other needs direction and that the character with a military background would be at his house at 5:00am and run him. He also said he will get him on the "smart drugs" and off the "wrong drugs"

Now I know certain drugs would obviously help out in a combat/war scenario. Others would be terrible, marijuana.

What do you think the smart and wrong drugs are? Discuss.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mescalean] * 5
    #19217136 - 12/02/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

there are no stupid or wrong drugs

only stupid or wrong people

etc


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: spazmodog]
    #19217146 - 12/02/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Drugs don't kill; people kill.

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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: spazmodog]
    #19217147 - 12/02/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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there are no stupid or wrong drugs

only stupid or wrong people

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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mescalean]
    #19217169 - 12/02/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

For me smart drugs are those that better you as a person whereas wrong drugs are those that just fuck you up and make you useless.  Depending on your brain chemistry, every person out there has different "smart" and "wrong" drugs, and even certain drugs will be smart or wrong depending on dosage and usage pattern. 

For me, obvious smart drugs are psilocybin, LSD and MDMA, wrong drugs are methamphetamine or any disassociative like K or PCP.  Drugs that fall in between being useful for creativity or added loquaciousness in small doses on disparate occasions but being wildly destructive when used excessively and/or on a day to day basis are alcohol, marijuana and cocaine.  If by "smart" drugs, you mean nootropics, well that's a well established class of chemicals that supposedly make you smarter, for the ones I've tried, I find their effectiveness dubious at best and likely a result of the placebo effect.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: morrowasted]
    #19217177 - 12/02/13 12:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i'd say that "smart" drugs are anything that gives you energy/confidence/crazy superhuman abilities and bad drugs are drugs that make u get fucked up and trip balls and be stuck in a couch like :vaped:


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: OMGYAY]
    #19217208 - 12/02/13 01:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

In theory, all drugs are bad because sobriety is the perfect state of mind.

If I were to nominate "smart drugs", I'd only put weed and caffeine in the list, and still, weed can numb you a lot.

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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Patlal]
    #19217243 - 12/02/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How about smart drugs and wrong drugs in a scenerio where you need to be alert and able to react if something went down.

There are tons of different scenarios? My interest is in performance I suppose. Ignoring long term use what drugs make a person perform better physically and mentally?


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Patlal]
    #19217252 - 12/02/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Meth/coke can be used to keep yourself up for hours. There's quite a few scientists who praise amphetamines for their powers of keeping you going all night. Heroin has been used quite excessively from musicians. Weed is an all day every day kinda drug. Psychedelics can give you spiritual experiences and lots of self growth. Both uppers and downers can do a toll on your organs if used excessively (which is usually the case after extended use). Psychedelics can cause HPPD and some people aren't ready to let go on them sometimes.

Overall as said earlier. No smart/stupid drugs. Only smart/stupid people. If you're smart you can use drugs as a tool to better yourself. Like a hammer and nails to make a fence. Or you can use a hammer to destroy the fence. So cliche but with great power comes great responsibility.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Patlal]
    #19217283 - 12/02/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Smart drugs; when the positive out measures the negative.  too much causing difficulties to nervous system or implications to happenings encountering would be wrong.

there is a smart way to use drugs and a wrong way.  but what is one to another may not be same to the other.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mad Season]
    #19217286 - 12/02/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I also liked the depending on brain chemistry bit above. Weed effects me way different than my girlfriend, acts as an upper with her kinda, cant sleep. Knocks me out


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mescalean]
    #19218041 - 12/02/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Smart drugs are typically drugs that enhance your physical and mental abilities for a period of time. Stimulants, typically any form of amphetamine. Of course if you overdo the dosage then they won't help enhance shit. You can see that in any drug den.

The nazis used them to good measure however if you notice most folks think the nazis were crazies sadists with paranoid psychosis like hell and that's part of the reason. Some overdid it, haha.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mescalean]
    #19218068 - 12/02/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I made a list of all the drugs I think are bad and that no one should ever do because all they do is ruin lives

Heroin
Meth
Ketamine
Cocaine
Xanax
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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Patlal]
    #19218074 - 12/02/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
In theory, all drugs are bad because sobriety is the perfect state of mind.




Let's agree to disagree. :strokebeard:

Smart drugs, by definition, are drugs that make you "smarter" while they act like low doses of psychs and stimulants in general. There are no "dumb" drugs.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: spazmodog]
    #19218108 - 12/02/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think any drug is wrong, but neither do I think any of them are smart. Unless you have a background and understand yourself before any drug, then you can do any drug in a smart way.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: HerbJunkette]
    #19218154 - 12/02/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

smart drugs = nootropics

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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Legend]
    #19218200 - 12/02/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So many drug elitists up in this thread :shake: What is this TPE?:shrug:


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19219223 - 12/02/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Smart drugs work to activate the pineal gland.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: abltsandwich]
    #19219241 - 12/02/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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abltsandwich said:
I made a list of all the drugs I think are bad and that no one should ever do because all they do is ruin lives

Heroin
Meth
Ketamine
Cocaine
Xanax
XTC
PCP
bath salts



Oxycodone hydrocodone oxymorphone etc


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: berdinwall]
    #19219257 - 12/02/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

He's talking about amphetamines. Soldiers take amphetamines


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: King Klick]
    #19219279 - 12/02/13 08:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Shrooms can make you gay because they allow you to see yourself from a different perspective. That may be considered a smart drug.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mescalean]
    #19219353 - 12/02/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Smart Drugs:
Psychedelics
Weed
Moderated alcohol
Caffeine
Adderall

Dumb drugs:
Dissociatives
Opiates
Heavy Stims
Benzos
DELERIANTS 


Hey, some of the best drugs are dumb drugs. That's why they're on the list.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: ModestMouse]
    #19219379 - 12/02/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

ModestMouse said:
Smart Drugs:
Psychedelics
Weed
Moderated alcohol
Caffeine
Adderall

Dumb drugs:
Dissociatives
Opiates
Heavy Stims
Benzos
DELERIANTS 


Hey, some of the best drugs are dumb drugs. That's why they're on the list.




adderall is kind of a heavy stim. mos def not a "smart" drug by any means


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19219464 - 12/02/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I bet you that the drugs for that game are or would be fictitious. :shrug:

However, I think the trend in this thread is in the right direction...

Good Drugs: modafinil, armodafinil, amphetamine (used as "go pills" by soldiers in WW2, BTW)

Bad Drugs: weed, opies, benzos (can you imagine? "Thanks to Valium, our soldiers are more valiant than ever!"), dissociatives (again, can you imagine? "When our soldiers aren't protecting you, they're undergoing ego death and wondering why plants don't have faces!")

On the fence: Alcohol (I mean, beer is practically an official reward for soldiers but in excess or at the wrong time, alcohol could mean death. )

Real-but-definitely-not-what-the-game-was-talking-about Smart Drugs: *racetams, lithium bicarbonate/oratate





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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: st1llnox]
    #19219584 - 12/02/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

GTA V. The character was a ex soldier with a meth habit


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mescalean]
    #19219661 - 12/02/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Wtf...

Some of y'all have a horrible way of categorizing shit. Smart drugs vs dumb drugs? There is no such thing as dumb drugs. Smart drugs is just a term for drugs that make your mind more agile...

Speed improves focus and energy making it a "smart" drug. It's that simple, smart drugs are mainly just various amphetamines or Ritalin and cocaine could be considered a smart drug but it usually isn't considered one. It's just a term, guys. If you can use it to study biochemistry or psychology or hours on end without eating or taking a break then remember all that shit for a huge exam next week then it's probably a "smart" drug. They also improve your memory.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: abltsandwich]
    #19219732 - 12/02/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

abltsandwich said:
I made a list of all the drugs I think are bad and that no one should ever do because all they do is ruin lives

Heroin
Meth
Ketamine
Cocaine
Xanax
XTC
PCP
bath salts




I hope that's a joke. Ketamine and "XTC" have made my life great. Xanax has done nothing to it... and i would love a little taste of that PCP :crazy2:


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19219975 - 12/02/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think the problem is the imprecise wording in the OP.  "Nootropic" and "Performance Enhancing" have very real and easy definitions that would allow us to list common drugs of that description, whereas "smart" is nebulous and unscientific, in general it might be slang for nootropic.  To me low speed can definitely make you feel smart but afterward you're low and feeling shitty and have poor performance, often in retrospect you were just deranged and having delusions of grandeur and were not actually smart, whereas psilocybin makes you fucking retarded while you're on it but afterward you feel like a million bucks and have a bunch of interesting insights and interesting thoughts that to me seem like some knowledge has been gained from the experience.  Without clarification of the original question we're all just offering different interpretations of the original, poorly framed dichotomy. 
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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: RiparianZoneJunky]
    #19220100 - 12/02/13 11:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Smart drugs=meth
stupid drugs=weed

prove me wrong, do it, i dare you


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mescalean]
    #19220104 - 12/02/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I personally consider hard stimulants (meth, coke, mdpv, apvp, etc) to be "wrong" drugs for me, as well as hard opiates (heroin, oxycontin, dilaudid) and tobacco products (cigarettes, snuff, chew). All those are totally off the table for me.

The right/ smart drugs for me are : marijuana, etizolam and kratom in moderation. Alcohol in moderation is ok for me.

Psychedelics like DMT or mushrooms or ayahuasca or ibogaine root in ritual/ceremonial/rare occasions are smart.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: abltsandwich]
    #19223341 - 12/03/13 05:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

abltsandwich said:
I made a list of all the drugs I think are bad and that no one should ever do because all they do is ruin lives

Heroin
Meth
Ketamine
Cocaine
Xanax
XTC
PCP
bath salts




ya' kidding me.  blame the hand of the man that is letting the chemical ruining there life


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Legend]
    #19223365 - 12/03/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Legend said:
smart drugs = nootropics

:awesome:




Yeah...this is what smart drugs generally refers to...


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: deladude]
    #19223388 - 12/03/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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deladude said:
Smart drugs=meth
stupid drugs=weed

prove me wrong, do it, i dare you




From a military standpoint I'd have to agree with you.

Whats better for taking out small villages? Psychosis enducing stimulants that grant above average strength and conditioning while under its effects, or marijuana an empathy enducing "hippy" drug that makes you tired and not want to do shit let alone snap some necks


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mescalean]
    #19223422 - 12/03/13 06:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hippies are annoying. "Ya brah I don't believe in capitaslim we should all just work together and spread good vibes".


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #19223444 - 12/03/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well the way I look at it is take two soldiers. 10 years of slitting throats navy seals. Now you smoke both out. 1 meth. 1 weed. Fight to the death who wins.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mescalean]
    #19223476 - 12/03/13 06:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

PCP is a smart drug and wrong drugs are caused by people that can't handle them


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: spazmodog]
    #19223488 - 12/03/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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spazmodog said:
there are no stupid or wrong drugs

only stupid or wrong people

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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: spixce]
    #19223511 - 12/03/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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PCP is a smart drug and wrong drugs are caused by people that can't handle them




Do Japanese people smoke PCP?

I've never heard of it before.


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    #19223528 - 12/03/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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    #19223561 - 12/03/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mescalean]
    #19223564 - 12/03/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I like jenkem because it's natural and doesn't cause brain damage


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    #19223615 - 12/03/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I like jenkem because it's natural and doesn't cause brain damage




Dude that shit will turn your Olney's lesions upside-down. I wouldn't dose that shit lightly (pun!).


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    #19223643 - 12/03/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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In theory, all drugs are bad because sobriety is the perfect state of mind.




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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mescalean]
    #19223655 - 12/03/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Like many others have posted, I essentially think that molecules aren't flawed, human behavior is. I also think that it takes a great deal of responsibility when taking any of the more obscure or potent substances. If a person can figure out what drugs they are not compatible with, and then work out how to appropriately ingest the psychoactive substances that they have decided are acceptable for them to partake in. Yes there are drugs that may be "wrong" for one person, but they might also be "right" for another. It just depends on your individual body chemistry and your personality. I would never advocate drug usage, but I would argue that drugs are a part of this planet and should be legal for anyone that wishes to ingest them. They are a choice, and not a choice to be taken lightly.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: birdland]
    #19223683 - 12/03/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That's some bull shit myth that stimulants cause brain damage, it's not scientifically funded. Of course abusers suffered damage to dopamine regulators but that hard core over kill, not sleeping, unhealthy fucks who just use for euphoria anyways.

Anyways, I used to play this racing game with my buddy and on this track my SOBER lap times were 4:36 or around that mark. If I smoked weed it wouldn't change much, a little worse or a little better depending on my mood BUT on my twenty second birthday I got high as absolute shit on meth for the first time in my life and me and my buddy were playing this game and my lap times increased by a minute PLUS all the way up to two minutes quicker than my highest times, I was setting records on every race and usually my buddy killed me at this game but I was actually on his level that night and he even had a much faster and better handling car than me. He didn't know I was high and he could t understand it because he usually owns me on racing games. As I said...

Smart drugs increase mental clarity, focus, energy, physical abilities such as reflexes, awareness, ability to breathe better (dialates your air passages), makes you bleed less through vasoconstriction, in all they turn you into a beast for a while. If you overdo it and don't live a normal life such as raying healthy, working out, sleeping regularly then they really just turn you into a scrawny little pimple faced fidgety/shady looking fucker with rings around his eyes.

You'll also notice that even though tweakers are overly paranoid and delusional, you'll see that they're very resourceful, that's one aspect that makes it a smart drug.

It gives you a boost of dopamine, a small boost of serotonin and another boost of adrenaline, te three coolest chemicals in the human body!!! Fuck yeah, right!


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19223697 - 12/03/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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That's some bull shit myth that stimulants cause brain damage, it's not scientifically funded. Of course abusers suffered damage to dopamine regulators but that hard core over kill, not sleeping, unhealthy fucks who just use for euphoria anyways.

Anyways, I used to play this racing game with my buddy and on this track my SOBER lap times were 4:36 or around that mark. If I smoked weed it wouldn't change much, a little worse or a little better depending on my mood BUT on my twenty second birthday I got high as absolute shit on meth for the first time in my life and me and my buddy were playing this game and my lap times increased by a minute PLUS all the way up to two minutes quicker than my highest times, I was setting records on every race and usually my buddy killed me at this game but I was actually on his level that night and he even had a much faster and better handling car than me. He didn't know I was high and he could t understand it because he usually owns me on racing games. As I said...

Smart drugs increase mental clarity, focus, energy, physical abilities such as reflexes, awareness, ability to breathe better (dialates your air passages), makes you bleed less through vasoconstriction, in all they turn you into a beast for a while. If you overdo it and don't live a normal life such as raying healthy, working out, sleeping regularly then they really just turn you into a scrawny little pimple faced fidgety/shady looking fucker with rings around his eyes.

You'll also notice that even though tweakers are overly paranoid and delusional, you'll see that they're very resourceful, that's one aspect that makes it a smart drug.

It gives you a boost of dopamine, a small boost of serotonin and another boost of adrenaline, te three coolest chemicals in the human body!!! Fuck yeah, right!




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I am still always torn as to whether I should just commit to Adderall or if I should try to be healthy on my own.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: st1llnox]
    #19223743 - 12/03/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Eh, I've noticed that you've had previous drugs problems but there is a thread about one of the smartest mathematicians ever alive using adderal for most of his life. He made a bet with a buddy that he could give it up for a month without negatives effects. He did. The last day passed and he went to his buddies house and collected his money and his friend asked him about it. He said something along the lines of, "Every morning of this month I've woken up as I normally do, made breakfast as I normally would. Got a pencil and paper and I sat down to work as always but nothing came, I stare at a blank piece of paper for a whole month. The only thing that ive accomplished is proving to you that I'm not a junkie nor a fiend and now mathematics is a full month behind for it!" He then popped an addreral and went home to work again, haha.

Not exact words but very close.

I'd recommend going sober for a while then maybe months down the road using it to boost yourself. Adderal would be your best bet, better judge of dosage and no shit impurities.

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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19223801 - 12/03/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Eh, I've noticed that you've had previous drugs problems but there is a thread about one of the smartest mathematicians ever alive using adderal for most of his life. He made a bet with a buddy that he could give it up for a month without negatives effects. He did. The last day passed and he went to his buddies house and collected his money and his friend asked him about it. He said something along the lines of, "Every morning of this month I've woken up as I normally do, made breakfast as I normally would. Got a pencil and paper and I sat down to work as always but nothing came, I stare at a blank piece of paper for a whole month. The only thing that ive accomplished is proving to you that I'm not a junkie nor a fiend and now mathematics is a full month behind for it!" He then popped an addreral and went home to work again, haha.

Not exact words but very close.

I'd recommend going sober for a while then maybe months down the road using it to boost yourself. Adderal would be your best bet, better judge of dosage and no shit impurities.

Good luck my friend!





Haha thanks and I appreciate your thread. Paul Erdos I think is who you're talking about and I actually dug up a TON of information on him and publication history/CV and all that, and I checked how many publications he averaged per year before and after he started taking speed.

His output *almost* doubled and post-stims, he actually had a couple years where he published more in one year than the average mathematician does in his/her entire life.


Still though... IDK MANG and this starting and stopping and starting and stopping is getting to me.



And yeah I have addictive tendencies but I am proactive when things start getting bad, and it's very substance-dependent. I've never even been tempted to abuse Adderall although your concern isn't wholly unwarranted.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: st1llnox]
    #19223877 - 12/03/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, he's a bad ass! If I ever had a problem with drugs it would definitely be with amphetamine, luckily I've no problems although I wish I could find adderal more easily. Simply to improve my productivity, I think I have much more potential than I show.

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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19224059 - 12/03/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

"That's some bull shit myth that stimulants cause brain damage, it's not scientifically funded"

Actually I did a lot of research and found many scientific studies proving that stimulants and especially meth cause long term sometimes permanent brain damage and cognitive impairments.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19224064 - 12/03/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19224095 - 12/03/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, as I said, in hard core addicts that abused the drug, absolutely! I've met plenty of them. Of course, in your average user, MINDFUL of HEALTH user, nah. Those dudes with permensnt brain damage stayed up for weeks on end barely eating, dehydrated as fuck living in the dark. That'll fuck your brain up without drugs. I'd like to see tests done on a few guys that use it fairly regularly, responsibly with healthy lifestyles including adequate food intake, vitamins, sleep, ect.

Science is flawed because people overlook the obvious habits and lifestyle choices of drug abusers. OH and I'd also like to add that street drugs combine a LOT of impurities that are horribly damagin to your brain chemistry which is another obvious thing that's overlooked.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: spixce]
    #19224101 - 12/03/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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what about cocaine




It's a smart drug as well but it's physical stimulation puts way too much stress on the body to be used effectively. Also the short duration...


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19224448 - 12/03/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

My understanding is even a single high dose use of method can cause significant brain damage, and long term daily use of even moderate doses will also cause brain damage.

Sporadic and occasional low doses might not do much harm, but high doses or chronic doses cause brain damage and cognitive impairments.


Doing a small threshold dose once a week is probably safe.

Cocaine is never safe , not even when used only ccasionally and not even at low doses , the risk of cardiac death is always there.


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    #19224629 - 12/03/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I've read the same thing in several areas of the internet and found it to be false. The lie is abundant. The human brain is not a fragile piece of shit. It's highly complex and the body is capable of miraculous healing. I did hours and hours of research on neurotoxicity of various forms of amphetamine. What I initially found was similar to what you've found and I quit reading up on it but one day my interested peaked and I ran one or two searches and found a gold mine of what I felt was truthful information. It's really common sense when one thinks about it. How many things can permanently cause brain damage in with ONE single use. Only some poisons can do that and very few at that and not to mention that methamphetamine is simply amphetamine with a methyl molecule added to make it hit the brain faster and harder. So what would cause it to damage the brain? I've found that no one can confirm it truthfully with hard evidence. It's simply not true. Keep in mind that there is a vitamin regimen out there and I have the actual list of things to take hen you do use speed in any form to protect yourself from any forms of potential neurotoxicity. Neurotoxicity can't actually even be measured because meth isn't always the cause and neuro studies really aren't that advanced yet anyways. That said, it's really nelligible if any at all. So in my conclusion I find that it's ill gotten evidence and can't be 100% confirmed. It's also highly unlikely from a common sense perspective because as said above, wtf can cause permemant damage through ONE time use? I think it's just a scare tactic. You can take that and do with it what you, disregard it, take it with a grain of salt, take it and read up on it more. Whatever you'd like, bud. I'm glad we could chat upon the subject though cause this subject was a pain in the ass to research and took me many hours to what I felt was obvious when I actually looked upon the answer.

I agree with you about cocaine though. The caridotoxicity comes the the fact that its numbin qualities makes it a sodium channel 9 blocker, I think it's channel 9. It's just not worth the risk at all plus it's cut to hell, costs too much, and doesn't last long. Boy, I'd love to try coca leves though. I've read that they're full of nutrients and vitamins along with the stimulant properties.

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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: spazmodog]
    #19224677 - 12/03/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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there are no stupid or wrong drugs

only stupid or wrong people

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fixed

wrong is a made up thang, stupid is very real




Agree though.


there ARE "smart"(so called because they claim to give you a mental boost) drugs however, and we call these  thangs "nootropics"



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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19224942 - 12/03/13 11:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I've read the same thing in several areas of the internet and found it to be false. The lie is abundant. The human brain is not a fragile piece of shit. It's highly complex and the body is capable of miraculous healing. I did hours and hours of research on neurotoxicity of various forms of amphetamine. What I initially found was similar to what you've found and I quit reading up on it but one day my interested peaked and I ran one or two searches and found a gold mine of what I felt was truthful information. It's really common sense when one thinks about it. How many things can permanently cause brain damage in with ONE single use. Only some poisons can do that and very few at that and not to mention that methamphetamine is simply amphetamine with a methyl molecule added to make it hit the brain faster and harder. So what would cause it to damage the brain? I've found that no one can confirm it truthfully with hard evidence. It's simply not true. Keep in mind that there is a vitamin regimen out there and I have the actual list of things to take hen you do use speed in any form to protect yourself from any forms of potential neurotoxicity. Neurotoxicity can't actually even be measured because meth isn't always the cause and neuro studies really aren't that advanced yet anyways. That said, it's really nelligible if any at all. So in my conclusion I find that it's ill gotten evidence and can't be 100% confirmed. It's also highly unlikely from a common sense perspective because as said above, wtf can cause permemant damage through ONE time use? I think it's just a scare tactic. You can take that and do with it what you, disregard it, take it with a grain of salt, take it and read up on it more. Whatever you'd like, bud. I'm glad we could chat upon the subject though cause this subject was a pain in the ass to research and took me many hours to what I felt was obvious when I actually looked upon the answer.

I agree with you about cocaine though. The caridotoxicity comes the the fact that its numbin qualities makes it a sodium channel 9 blocker, I think it's channel 9. It's just not worth the risk at all plus it's cut to hell, costs too much, and doesn't last long. Boy, I'd love to try coca leves though. I've read that they're full of nutrients and vitamins along with the stimulant properties.

Good night everyon.




I think the above is all wishful thinking. take a look at the studies, they are legit medical papers. It makes sense. If you shoot up a big enough shot of meth into your vein, the possibility for brain damage is definitely there, even if its a single use.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19225471 - 12/04/13 06:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I've seen them all and I think they're heavily biased. BUT I completely forgot to mention that there is credibility to your opinion on high doses! High doses of stimulants bump the brains core temperature enough to cause brain damage in intolerant users however the body gets adjusted to this quickly and the temperature doesn't change as much in a user with even a slight tolerance. So yes high doses definitely have potential to be harmful. That said, the brain is not a piece of shit like I said. It can handle a little speed, that's been proven.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19225509 - 12/04/13 06:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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    #19226172 - 12/04/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I made a list of all the drugs I think are bad and that no one should ever do because all they do is ruin lives

Heroin
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ya' kidding me.  blame the hand of the man that is letting the chemical ruining there life




bullshit dude you dont even know what your talking about i saw kids overdosing and dying all the time on them


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    #19226198 - 12/04/13 11:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You saw these kids personally? Why didn't you stop to help. You must be a dumb drug.


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    #19226209 - 12/04/13 11:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

how can you help someone from dieng when you dont know that there dyeing until after its over it sounds like your the wrong drug not me


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    #19226331 - 12/04/13 12:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

how does xtc ruin someone's life and heroin isn't physically dangerous and cocaine and meth aren't bad if you do them in moderation


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    #19226356 - 12/04/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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    #19226370 - 12/04/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Cocaine and meth are super bad, especially coke, there is no such thing as moderation with coke because even a single use can kill a healthy person, its true look it up. Sudden cocaine death syndrome its called.

Synthetic cannibinoids are horrible hard drugs to, they can give strokes to healthy people at one use.

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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19226392 - 12/04/13 12:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Cocaine and meth are super bad, especially coke, there is no such thing as moderation with coke because even a single use can kill a healthy person, its true look it up. Sudden cocaine death syndrome its called.

Synthetic cannibinoids are horrible hard drugs to, they can give strokes to healthy people at one use.

MDMA is ok once in a blue moon in my opinion.




So... would that stop you from doing coke, or meth if it was super high quality, and under the
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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Legend]
    #19226429 - 12/04/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i think coke and meth are okay in moderation i don't believe in sudden cocaine death and why does everyone hate spice


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: spixce]
    #19226469 - 12/04/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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i think coke and meth are okay in moderation i don't believe in sudden cocaine death and why does everyone hate spice



i have my reasons to hate spice... but it's just cause i over did it. I dont blame the guys who
use it, man believe it or not, at the time i used that shit was BETTER THAN WEED!

coke does block the hearts sodium channels (or is it calcium?) Thus causing cardiac arrest.
Thats a real danger, and can kill ya. so...

:snort:


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19226552 - 12/04/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Moonshoe said:
Cocaine and meth are super bad

Synthetic cannibinoids are horrible hard drugs to, they can give strokes to healthy people at one use.

MDMA is ok once in a blue moon in my opinion.




I'm starting to see a pattern...

Posts negatively about the effects of drugs. Check. Sounds exaggerated. Check. Provides no intelligible information. Check. Provides no links to accurate information. Check. Begins repeating when alternate information is given. Check. Begins stating opinions. Check.

This is a myth spreader. His kind is notorious for justifying his use or cause for not using and trying to sores that same thought pattern along to others.

You're right on some accounts but for the wrong reasons. Meth is bad but not for th reasons you're stating but for the reasons I've stated in an above post. Cocaine is bad. Read my post above. I can't speak on synthetic weed but I'd say its unhealthy but I've never done research on it and don't care to. MDMA is not as healthy as we'd like it to be but I'd go as far as to say that it is even worse than amphetamine because of the fact that it causes you to dehydrate quicker and also increases core temperature which amphetamine also does but along with that it also can deplete your serotonin levels after extended use but for rare users/low dose users it's not really a problem. I'd say amphetamine is actually safer I moderate doses with a more frequent usage than MDMA. Your brain is more accepting of dopamine, epinephrine and small serotonin release. That's why MDMA can cause serontonin syndrome.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Legend]
    #19226554 - 12/04/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Legend said:
Quote:

spixce said:
i think coke and meth are okay in moderation i don't believe in sudden cocaine death and why does everyone hate spice



i have my reasons to hate spice... but it's just cause i over did it. I dont blame the guys who
use it, man believe it or not, at the time i used that shit was BETTER THAN WEED!

coke does block the hearts sodium channels (or is it calcium?) Thus causing cardiac arrest.
Thats a real danger, and can kill ya. so...

:snort:




You're right, it's sodium.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Mescalean]
    #19231912 - 12/05/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So much close-mindedness is this thread... and on a site devoted to mushrooms too:facepalm:


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19231917 - 12/05/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I like all the drugs i've tried thusfar :awedance:


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Legend]
    #19232024 - 12/05/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Legend said:
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Moonshoe said:
Cocaine and meth are super bad, especially coke, there is no such thing as moderation with coke because even a single use can kill a healthy person, its true look it up. Sudden cocaine death syndrome its called.

Synthetic cannibinoids are horrible hard drugs to, they can give strokes to healthy people at one use.

MDMA is ok once in a blue moon in my opinion.




So... would that stop you from doing coke, or meth if it was super high quality, and under the
right conditions? Yeah drugs are bad, everyone knows that. but i mean, most all drugs can
cause life-threatening side effects.




I wont use coke or meth personally, not at all. Used to do coke but wont ever again.

Kratom, coffee and weed wont kill you, that much I know.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19232034 - 12/05/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Moonshoe said:
I wont use coke or meth personally, not at all. Used to do coke but wont ever again.

Kratom, coffee and weed wont kill you, that much I know.




I'm not sure about kratom... but caffeine can definitely kill you/take a toll on you cardiovascular health.


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Re: "Smart" drugs VS. the "Wrong" drugs. [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19232105 - 12/05/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

True true


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