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cant the ouija board be used to find yourself?
    #19204064 - 11/29/13 09:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

so if the ouija board doesnt contact spirits and scienctists put this down to the ideomotor effect, which they say is basicaly your sub concious giving the answers.

Even if the scienctists say the ouija board dosent contact spirits, and its just us controling it. its still a cool weird thing to do. doesnt that mean that we could ask our selves question and maybe bring up things that are keeping us down, write them done. this could help us the therapeutically? or is this just bullshit


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Re: cant the ouija board be used to find yourself? [Re: elchegue]
    #19204078 - 11/29/13 09:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The thing is the Spirits exist.  Its up to them if they want to engage in partial possession states.  All manner of ritual is valid.


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Re: cant the ouija board be used to find yourself? [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #19204167 - 11/29/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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FishOilTheKid said:
The thing is the Spirits exist.  Its up to them if they want to engage in partial possession states.  All manner of ritual is valid.



The thing is that spirits do not exist.  They are sensory hallucinations that arise out of our desires and longings.  We desire that the world be magical and fantastical, and our imaginations create images and presences that address the desire.

In fact, the world is magical and there are many things that can't be explained.  People in heightened states of consciousness experience all manner of unexplainable things.  That there is mystery in the world is undisputable.

Let's all set aside our childish dreams and fantasies and address this thing as adults, I say.


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Re: cant the ouija board be used to find yourself? [Re: all this beauty]
    #19204452 - 11/29/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:satansmoking:

"In this book it is spoken of the Sephiroth and the Paths; of Spirits and Conjurations; of Gods, Spheres, Planes, and many other things which may or may not exist. It is immaterial whether these exist or not. By doing certain things certain results will follow; students are most earnestly warned against attributing objective reality or philosophic validity to any of them."
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Re: cant the ouija board be used to find yourself? [Re: elchegue]
    #19204535 - 11/29/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No.



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Re: cant the ouija board be used to find yourself? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #19204649 - 11/29/13 12:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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...warned against attributing objective reality or philosophic validity to any of them."




By the spirits themselves even IME.  They operate fields of disbelief by controlling belief and decision making in individuals that make up a collective.  They then can hide information in alternate reality tunnels and themselves.  Like a psychic amoeba that operates behind the curtain like the wizard of oz but by way of schizophrenia.  They are egregore. 

And shit man...!!  ALL THIS BEAUTY contains much of what you disregard as childish.  You'll be surprised one day if you honestly seek and let down your guard.  Its like a defense mechanism.  Have some faith and put it to the test.  You will be blown away to learn allot of what you disregard can be observed and engaged.  Then there is a battle for control and you realize that there is something bigger than you that is immaterial that can move your fucking body if it wants to.  Open a door once in a while.


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Re: cant the ouija board be used to find yourself? [Re: FishOilTheKid] * 1
    #19204673 - 11/29/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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...and address this thing as adults, I say.




That honestly means for me to disregard everything that I'm experiencing on a daily basis and what prophets and sages have been saying for thousands of years.  I'm going to call it the Kingdom of Heaven just to piss you off.

What you don't get yet is that you are in the wrong with your belief.  And, as an adult you need to come to terms with how you have been duped.

There has been an effort to 'cleanse' the populace of the REAL MAGIK.  Communication has been severed and separatism and freedom took over which is chaos.  But unenlightened chaos.  And easily steered.  Dangerously powerful.  Influential.

The archetype is that they removed the keys to knowledge.  And those keys allow you to experience that you are the one in error.  Ironic.


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Re: cant the ouija board be used to find yourself? [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #19204859 - 11/29/13 01:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ouija is just a slow form of communication since it uses basic discursive language, as opposed to say, Tarot which uses glyphs, Tarot is often considered the best of the occult forms of self divination or soul-itaire (I just made that up).  The detailedness of the 4 level otz chiem or Tree of Life gives as many details as one can handle.

To throw more into the pie I like the out of print Buddha Tarot because it just works so well if you're usual mode of inquiry is non mundane. 

Some other divinations like runes and geomancy yield up also lots of info.  I find runes good for overviews and for the weather.  But geomancy is good if you're going on a trip. Propitious directions, colors, numbers, and so on.

Thanks and please come again.


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Re: cant the ouija board be used to find yourself? [Re: elchegue]
    #19205041 - 11/29/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

you are yourself

you can't use anything to find it because you haven't lost it


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Re: cant the ouija board be used to find yourself? [Re: Chronic7]
    #19205853 - 11/29/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

speak for yourself
lots of people have lost their minds
many, if they had souls, misplaced them
some in a jars of pickled hog trots
some people just waitin on a shot of bitters with soda
cause theiir self aint coming back till that headache goes.


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Re: cant the ouija board be used to find yourself? [Re: deCypher]
    #19206692 - 11/29/13 10:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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deCypher said:
:satansmoking:

"In this book it is spoken of the Sephiroth and the Paths; of Spirits and Conjurations; of Gods, Spheres, Planes, and many other things which may or may not exist. It is immaterial whether these exist or not. By doing certain things certain results will follow; students are most earnestly warned against attributing objective reality or philosophic validity to any of them."
--AC




Certain things could be rituals, so if you pray for a battle to be won, or a million dollars, the consequence would be that, if it has happened before?


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Re: cant the ouija board be used to find yourself? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #19206704 - 11/29/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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No.






Just put the demons in a pentagram first, and you'll be golden.

:awegold:

Or blast them back to oblivion when your done.

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Re: cant the ouija board be used to find yourself? [Re: teknix]
    #19206836 - 11/29/13 10:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Read the book (if you can find one). I've heard too much outside of the book as well. I'm not Gandalf, but then, he is fictional. The magick is not in the trappings, it's in the person. Long preparation based on lifestyle is needed to perform exorcisms. There is no protection for anyone intentionally calling up nameless things. The magick is not in the Parker Brothers board 'game' either, it is in the reckless intention to open a door, through the unconscious, that leads to Qlippothic realms. Oppression and possession are apparently real possibilities whether one calls them autonomous complexes or demons.


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Re: cant the ouija board be used to find yourself? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #19206915 - 11/29/13 11:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If I channel energy they flee or become assimilated! I had a headache the other day, and it was weird because I never get headaches. It was concentrated towards the crown, like my brain was disintegrating. I began to channel some energy like I do, and focused it on every area around the spot the was causing me pain and the energy eventually engulfed that spot, and the pain was gone.

It sounds nuts I know, but it worked and it works on malicious demons/spirits as well ime.

Well, maybe I am nuts! But it feels great to be this kind of nuts!

I would seriously attempt/to/face down any malicious demon/spirit, and have no worries that I would fail.

(That's the trick.)

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Re: cant the ouija board be used to find yourself? [Re: teknix]
    #19207513 - 11/30/13 06:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

to understand exorcism proper one needs to consider tibetan chod  they been doing it the longest and mahakali kick all demon poontang


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Re: cant the ouija board be used to find yourself? [Re: teknix]
    #19209444 - 11/30/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Perhaps it is fortunate for you that "demons" seek out those whose nature is closer to their own, not basically naive or benign "nuts."


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Re: cant the ouija board be used to find yourself? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #19209984 - 11/30/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

the bored cant do shit

its all in ur head


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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: cant the ouija board be used to find yourself? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #19210880 - 12/01/13 12:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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MarkostheGnostic said:
Perhaps it is fortunate for you that "demons" seek out those whose nature is closer to their own, not basically naive or benign "nuts."




Perhaps, or maybe they know better!

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Re: cant the ouija board be used to find yourself? [Re: teknix]
    #19217031 - 12/02/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I would seriously attempt/to/face down any malicious demon/spirit, and have no worries that I would fail.



:firstladyofapproval:


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Re: cant the ouija board be used to find yourself? [Re: elchegue]
    #19217165 - 12/02/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

As far as I see -
on the one side, it doesn't matter if spirits are in ones head or outside of it, as they influence this person and for this person they are part of its reality, reflected in its head.
On the other side it's a huge difference if those spirits only inflict one person, or have influence on other things and beings outside of its head, without the one person being the causing factor.

To some part, I think, both realities are overlapping.


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