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    #19216470 - 12/02/13 09:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Shits not looking good right now

SR gone through that whole hitman/snitch fiasco
BMR chickened out
Sheepmarket looking to get a Colombian necktie


Thoughts on all this bullshit? How long will it take for the market to stabalize again? Any viable alternatives for today?


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Re: Deep web [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19216508 - 12/02/13 09:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah its all a trap and this time they are not playing.

But I have never personally have boughten anything off those sites so what the hell do I know.


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Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

Religion is fun.


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Re: Deep web [Re: fee]
    #19216525 - 12/02/13 09:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

There are several alternatives.  Many of the guys from SR have opened SR version 2 that is virtually identical to SR.


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Re: Deep web [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #19216528 - 12/02/13 10:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm staying away for now, but I'm not scared away for good.  As long as you know what you are doing its more safe than buying off the street.


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Re: Deep web [Re: DieCommie]
    #19216531 - 12/02/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

if you're just buying small shit, i wouldn't worry about it.  the DEA doesn't have funding to give a fuck about joe schmoe on the street.  they have their hands tied with land-based trade coming from mexico and south america.  i'm sure their cybercapabilities are lagging, and what capabilities they DO have, are used pursuing large-scale distributors.


edit:  the above is an opinion based on nothing.  jsut an FYI


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Re: Deep web [Re: fee]
    #19216533 - 12/02/13 10:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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fee said:
But I have never personally have boughten anything off those sites so what the hell do I know.




I also have never and will never. Maybe I'm old fashioned but I prefer to buy my illegal drugs in person from friends. It's interesting to hear about all this though.


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Re: Deep web [Re: psi]
    #19216538 - 12/02/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

There's another SR?  Whoot!  That's great news.  Where is it and is it safe?


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Re: Deep web [Re: mpd]
    #19216545 - 12/02/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

SR 2.0

no word on safe or not.


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Re: Deep web [Re: k00laid]
    #19216578 - 12/02/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

When will we know if it is safe?


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Re: Deep web [Re: mpd]
    #19216619 - 12/02/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Never. It could of been the FBI that set it up. They had access to all the servers right?
Probably not.

I checked it out and it seemed like a lot of the stuff I had been interested in (4-aco-dmt) is only being sold in bulk from china now.
I made an account on the first one a few weeks before it shut down and never got to try it.
Now I'm too scared.


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Re: Deep web [Re: Eggtimer]
    #19216625 - 12/02/13 10:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't know about open marketplaces like Silk Road, but internet drug trade is farrrrrrr from over. In fact it's pretty thriving. I don't mess with it much myself as i don't like scheduled chemicals in my mailbox, but i have friends who do and I chip them some money sometimes and get some pretty rad stuff from over seas.

Probably not as easy as silk road though so it would be cool to see some of that spring back. But i'm sure there are plenty of markets like it just keeping low profile because of what happened to SR


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Re: Deep web [Re: Eggtimer]
    #19216628 - 12/02/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Never.

Now I'm too scared.




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Re: Deep web [Re: k00laid]
    #19216685 - 12/02/13 10:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What alternatives are out there?  I'm down to like a 60-day supply of weed and will have to refill my larder.  Someone please PM me with a suggested solution.


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Re: Deep web [Re: mpd] * 1
    #19216702 - 12/02/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

the safest way is to become good friends with people online, and form your own small communities. i dont know of any legit marketplaces right now.


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Re: Deep web [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19216706 - 12/02/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

SMP stole $.50 from me, :lolsy:

BMR is shutting down I think temporarily?

SR 2.0 is up and running looking good so far but it doesn't have as many listings as SMP did. SMP had such a good variety and SR 2.0 has a fraction of the amount :feelsbadman:

TorMarket looks good, dare I say great, but it has very few venders so far.


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Re: Deep web [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19216723 - 12/02/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sheep looked extremely sketch from the get go, and they raised their vendor price like 300% the day after SR went under.  It was a time bomb, and a lot of people called it correctly.  The only marketplace I would trust at this point is BMR whenever it comes back, though SR 2.0 seems to be run by people that were big into the politics vs greedy assholes.  If a greedy asshole runs an illict marketplace and it grows they will always run with the money. Having several 3rd parties do escrow is the only way I see of people not getting fucked en mass like this.


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Re: Deep web [Re: fapjack]
    #19216749 - 12/02/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Sheep looked extremely sketch from the get go, and they raised their vendor price like 300% the day after SR went under.  It was a time bomb, and a lot of people called it correctly.  The only marketplace I would trust at this point is BMR whenever it comes back, though SR 2.0 seems to be run by people that were big into the politics vs greedy assholes.  If a greedy asshole runs an illict marketplace and it grows they will always run with the money. Having several 3rd parties do escrow is the only way I see of people not getting fucked en mass like this.



TorMarket appears to have very good security, they seem to have promising-looking protocols so far, but they don't have a huge amount of listings.


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Re: Deep web [Re: fapjack]
    #19216826 - 12/02/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If the government sets up one of these things it won't be to get your mailing addresses. They will do what SMP did and scam everyone. Then the 60 million will go into black ops. Like when they overthrow the government of Uraguay for legalizing pot next year, that will be funded with CIA drug dollars. How much coin did they get shutting down SR? The US government can't just ask congress for cash to do unethical stuff, so they are in the drug business to fund it. I Don't see any SR customers asking for money back, its a easy way for them to profit large, they figured that out for sure.

Gold luck finding another DPR who won't take the millions and run. The temptation must be huge, go to prison for life or take money and run. I can't tell you how many times I have seen people be legit then go scam and retire. You have at least 2 weeks, with excuses of course, until people figure it out. This was a classic scam perfectly timed, I have never seen anyone go this big before. Like I have seen people take off with 25 grand in orders and that was considered big. Even the RC provider near me with the fake homeland security logo on his page didn't do anything near the millions this scam did.
These sites biggest problem will be scams, people were spoiled with SR and its review system and escrow, that was an anomaly. I have been following the online drug scene since the days of newsgroups, its a very checkered history.
PS the people behind sheep, if they were smart, had a back up site ready to jump to. They could be behind any of the other sites. Wait a year and see who is still around is my advice.


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Re: Deep web [Re: my3rdeye]
    #19216837 - 12/02/13 11:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Oh, and BTC will plummet... it's just a matter of time.


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Re: Deep web [Re: ModestMouse]
    #19216846 - 12/02/13 11:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Oh, and BTC will plummet... it's just a matter of time.




In related news, the sun will consume all its hydrogen and burn out.  Its only a matter of time.


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Re: Deep web [Re: DieCommie]
    #19216865 - 12/02/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If people stop buying drugs online the value of BTC will go in the toilet.  Its not a practical currency, if it wasn't for illict purchases it would still be worthless.


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Re: Deep web [Re: fapjack]
    #19216921 - 12/02/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I see even more people buying drugs as time progresses


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Re: Deep web [Re: Synthe]
    #19216938 - 12/02/13 12:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Same, its only going to get bigger and harder to track for the feds. This was a harsh few weeks but personally I'm confident things will piece back together, breaking the SR monopoly be a good thing :shrug:


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Re: Deep web [Re: fapjack]
    #19216972 - 12/02/13 12:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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If people stop buying drugs online the value of BTC will go in the toilet.  Its not a practical currency, if it wasn't for illict purchases it would still be worthless.



It's value actually went up massively once several Chinese companies started accepting it.  That is in fact where most of values seems to be coming from.


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Re: Deep web [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #19216976 - 12/02/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Chinese companies started accepting it.  That is in fact where most of values seems to be coming from.




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Re: Deep web [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #19217007 - 12/02/13 12:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

fapjack said:
If people stop buying drugs online the value of BTC will go in the toilet.  Its not a practical currency, if it wasn't for illict purchases it would still be worthless.



It's value actually went up massively once several Chinese companies started accepting it.  That is in fact where most of values seems to be coming from.




It went from almost nothing to worth over $100 a BTC before that happened.  Most of the increase in value was before the Chinese got interested in it.  I would say them seeing potential in it isn't a good thing either.


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Re: Deep web [Re: fapjack]
    #19217016 - 12/02/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I bought some BTC off WellsFargo last week, not sure how much they're buying in but if the banks decide to go balls deep then it'll probably skyrocket.


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Re: Deep web [Re: DieCommie]
    #19217613 - 12/02/13 02:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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DieCommie said:
Quote:

ModestMouse said:
Oh, and BTC will plummet... it's just a matter of time.




In related news, the sun will consume all its hydrogen and burn out.  Its only a matter of time.




Ah I see! The parallels between the fucking Sun and the BTC are clear.


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Re: Deep web [Re: k00laid]
    #19217638 - 12/02/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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the safest way is to become good friends with people online, and form your own small communities. i dont know of any legit marketplaces right now.



i concur


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Re: Deep web [Re: k00laid]
    #19217648 - 12/02/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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the safest way is to become good friends with people online, and form your own small communities. i dont know of any legit marketplaces right now.




Pity


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Re: Deep web [Re: mpd]
    #19217654 - 12/02/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Wait what happened to SMP?


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Re: Deep web [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19217657 - 12/02/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

They flew the coop, taking all the eggs with em.


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Re: Deep web [Re: ModestMouse]
    #19217678 - 12/02/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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They flew the coop, taking all the eggs with em.




What a fucking shame, I thought we were all on the same team here:sad:

I hope those greedy fucks are happy


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Re: Deep web [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19217706 - 12/02/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Dude, SR is fine and dandy, it's all good in the hood! :smile: Check out the SR forums for news and updates, and feel free to use SR when you're ready/comfortable, the community will welcome anyone narc-free with open arms!


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Re: Deep web [Re: DirtyTomFlint] * 4
    #19217750 - 12/02/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Dude, SR is fine and dandy, it's all good in the hood! :smile: Check out the SR forums for news and updates, and feel free to use SR when you're ready/comfortable, the community will welcome anyone narc-free with open arms!




Says the guy who joined last month :paranoid::cop: Probably a honeypot/scam full of junkie cops


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Re: Deep web [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19217825 - 12/02/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think its the only marketplace with any type of vision with BMR going on vacation.  I still think more people should have seen sheep coming.  The owner didn't give a shit and it showed.


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Re: Deep web [Re: fapjack]
    #19217906 - 12/02/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I was actually more confidant it was legit BECAUSE it was named "Sheep Marketplace", because I thought "How ballsy or stupid would they have to be to name a scam service something that implies its own downfall?" I guess they really were that vallsy. Well, stupid. I bet he'll get caught.. or hunted down.


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Re: Deep web [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19217988 - 12/02/13 04:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Dude, SR is fine and dandy, it's all good in the hood! :smile: Check out the SR forums for news and updates, and feel free to use SR when you're ready/comfortable, the community will welcome anyone narc-free with open arms!




Says the guy who joined last month :paranoid::cop: Probably a honeypot/scam full of junkie cops






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Re: Deep web [Re: Synthe]
    #19218004 - 12/02/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I was actually more confidant it was legit BECAUSE it was named "Sheep Marketplace", because I thought "How ballsy or stupid would they have to be to name a scam service something that implies its own downfall?" I guess they really were that vallsy. Well, stupid. I bet he'll get caught.. or hunted down.




I highly doubt it was a scam from the getgo. Put yourself in that guys shoes; SR gets shutdown by the feds, fast forward a few months- Bitcoin appears to be plateauing at ~$1000. He knows if he keeps the site going he will inevitably get busted, so he decides "Hey $40 mil is enough to live on" and bam he makes for the door.

The guy running BMR is essentially doing the same thing, but he's obviously doing it in a much more graceful manner and not being a complete greedy asshole. The SR bust created a giant vacuum, vacuum gets filled, the sites that took over make a pretty penny filling the gap for a few months and then they either shut down or take everyone's money, makes sense:shrug: I think we are going to see a lot more of this in the future. Gone are the days of tried and true marketplaces that weather the storm for 3-4 years like SR.


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Re: Deep web [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19218032 - 12/02/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Bullshit, I believe in the counter-culture.  Plus If people made SR in the beginning, then some greedy nerd will come along and fill that void better then DPR ever did, and keep himself safe.  Its a matter of time. 
The idea is just too good.
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Re: Deep web [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19218039 - 12/02/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Just how deep does the deep web actually go?


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Re: Deep web [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19218043 - 12/02/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I think we are going to see a lot more of this in the future. Gone are the days of tried and true marketplaces that weather the storm for 3-4 years like SR.




It could be but lets not jump to conclusions, in either case it will be a few years before a new marketplace trustworthy. I hope the market develops without any monopolies this time, SR was just too big IMO


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Re: Deep web [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19218067 - 12/02/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Says the guy who joined last month :paranoid::cop: Probably a honeypot/scam full of junkie cops




Been using SR for years, dude. Just look at their forums.


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Re: Deep web [Re: DirtyTomFlint]
    #19218125 - 12/02/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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DatIslandLife said:
Quote:

MisterSandman said:

Says the guy who joined last month :paranoid::cop: Probably a honeypot/scam full of junkie cops




Been using SR for years, dude. Just look at their forums.




I'm just messing with you man, I'm sure you're fine :hug:


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    #19218168 - 12/02/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I think we are going to see a lot more of this in the future. Gone are the days of tried and true marketplaces that weather the storm for 3-4 years like SR.




It could be but lets not jump to conclusions, in either case it will be a few years before a new marketplace trustworthy. I hope the market develops without any monopolies this time, SR was just too big IMO




True True. I don't think not having a monopoly is really possible though, unless everyone gets together and agrees on it :lol:. Maybe what they need is one big SR type site that is just run by a bunch of bots to make it look like everyone uses it and then have one or two real sites operating on the down low in the background.


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Re: Deep web [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19218468 - 12/02/13 05:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I was actually more confidant it was legit BECAUSE it was named "Sheep Marketplace", because I thought "How ballsy or stupid would they have to be to name a scam service something that implies its own downfall?" I guess they really were that vallsy. Well, stupid. I bet he'll get caught.. or hunted down.




I highly doubt it was a scam from the getgo. Put yourself in that guys shoes; SR gets shutdown by the feds, fast forward a few months- Bitcoin appears to be plateauing at ~$1000. He knows if he keeps the site going he will inevitably get busted, so he decides "Hey $40 mil is enough to live on" and bam he makes for the door.

The guy running BMR is essentially doing the same thing, but he's obviously doing it in a much more graceful manner and not being a complete greedy asshole. The SR bust created a giant vacuum, vacuum gets filled, the sites that took over make a pretty penny filling the gap for a few months and then they either shut down or take everyone's money, makes sense:shrug: I think we are going to see a lot more of this in the future. Gone are the days of tried and true marketplaces that weather the storm for 3-4 years like SR.



BMR has been around for over a year, and its coming back in a couple months.


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