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teknix
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Shroomery Misdefines sterilization.
#19216373 - 12/02/13 08:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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We boil the jars in order to sterilize them in order to destroy all forms of life in the jars. (molds and bacteria, spores and bacterial endosporse). This is done, so we can inoculate the now sterile substrate with the desired fungus.
These organisms which live in the soil, in water, etc. can invide and digest a food source like the one we are providing with the PF-tek recipe. This we call contamination.
Boiling water reaches a temperature of 212Β° F, which is adequate to kill molds and spores which may reside in the water, vermicuite and the brown rice flour.
Am I the only one that see's something wrong with this definition?
I think there are some definitions that are way outdated and do not coincide with scientific definitions. The proper term for what boiling is doing is called asepsis.
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Sell Your Soul
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Re: Shroomery Misdefines sterilization. (moved) [Re: teknix]
#19216376 - 12/02/13 09:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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hgmstl
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Re: Shroomery Misdefines sterilization. (moved) [Re: Sell Your Soul]
#19216388 - 12/02/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey buddy friend!
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Pastywhyte
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Registered: 09/15/12
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Re: Shroomery Misdefines sterilization. (moved) [Re: Sell Your Soul]
#19216395 - 12/02/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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There are lots of terms that are incorrectly used on these forums. Some are detrimental to the community as they have a connotation which is misleading. Good example would be the misuse of the term "strain". It gives people a misrepresentation of what a strain in mycology truly is and give noobs incorrect ideas about the characteristics that varieties have and the potential that all varieties share.
Sterilization as a term might be misused by our community, but the meaning is agreed upon and thus is not detrimental to us amateurs ability to share our understanding. Fact is, I don't use a pressure cooker to attain asepsis within my jars, I use an AA75x sterilizer. Now if we were saying sterilization, and we meant pasteurization, I could agree there was a problem.
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spacechildo
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Re: Shroomery Misdefines sterilization. (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19216437 - 12/02/13 09:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, we've been doing well so far, don't think there's any need to try and stir up the pot here. Someone's moving up on the ignore-list though..
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TheCyndicate
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Re: Shroomery Misdefines sterilization. (moved) [Re: spacechildo]
#19216469 - 12/02/13 09:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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KnownPown
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Re: Shroomery Misdefines sterilization. (moved) [Re: TheCyndicate]
#19217291 - 12/02/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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This guy is something else lmfao. If you don't appreciate the RIGHT information coming from the shroomery, make your own damn site that you can have heated arguments on with yourself since nobody will want to put up with your shit.
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anne halonium
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Registered: 05/07/13
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Re: Shroomery Misdefines sterilization. (moved) [Re: KnownPown]
#19217335 - 12/02/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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" sterile" means " less than one living thing".
^ thats how scientifically literate adults define sterile.
of course, that definition, has little to do with , the common knowledge growers. it doesnt explain " spontaneous germintaion", wich most here, accept as immutable fact.
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Shroomery Misdefines sterilization. [Re: teknix]
#19217376 - 12/02/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: He posted that in WAF because he's butthurt over getting banned from here for that other BS thread.
I've been saying for years that the way we use the word 'sterilization' in mycology is far different than it's used elsewhere.
In mycology we consider a substrate 'sterilized' if it can remain free of competitor organisms long enough to get colonized and fruit. This is why PF cakes are considered 'sterile' after steaming at 100C, even though the lab standard for sterilization is 20 minutes at 121C.
The bottom line is every field of endeavor has its own nomenclature, right or wrong. RR
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